The Cassiopeia Project

[iain666]

It looks like there are a couple: Captains's Log and
ED Discovery, with Captain's Log suggesting that it has the advantage of storing your logs in a database that Frontier won't decide it might erase and maybe storing more data on planets (?), and EDDiscovery integrating your data online, which seems like a gesture of good citizenship. I'm thinking it would have been nice to run one before I started off.

EDD stores all your history and journals in a local database, just like Captain's Log. The online data also provides a backup, EDD will repopulate from EDSM if you lose all your journals and the local database.

Providing the option to sync local data with the online databases (EDSM and EDDN) is on Genar's to-do list for Captain's Log, and the graphical representation of system scans with material data is getting a lot of love in EDD right now.

Both will load all your logs from when (before) you set out if you install them now, so all you've actually lost is entering notes as you go.

You can run them both, the only real reason to pick one is subjective preference.

Unless you're the sort who likes to jump into the code and add new features if you think of something cool and then EDD is the open source one.

 

[CMDR_Halceon]

EDD stores all your history and journals in a local database, just like Captain's Log. The online data also provides a backup, EDD will repopulate from EDSM if you lose all your journals and the local database.

Providing the option to sync local data with the online databases (EDSM and EDDN) is on Genar's to-do list for Captain's Log, and the graphical representation of system scans with material data is getting a lot of love in EDD

Thanks for the reply. I admit to only reading the tops of their respective forum threads, so I'm sure I missed a lot.

I'm going to give EDD a try first because I found out that the Captains Log window won't fit on my low resolution TV/monitor and it won't allow itself to be resized or moved to get to some of the buttons at the bottom (this is the version 2 beta). So practicality wins for now!

 

[Jaiotu]

MISSION UPDATE: 28 NOV 3302

Greetings Commanders! The following news article should be appearing in the local news feeds of Sol, Achenar, Alioth, Chi Orionis, 78 Ursae Majoris, and Prism later today:

Cassiopeia expedition reports preliminary results

News from the Cassiopeia Project has leaked back to civilization indicating a possible breakthrough in the search for the Cassiopeia A supernova remnant. The expedition, which departed less than a month ago, has completed a search along a 4.6 thousand light year corridor where the remnant should be located.

Speaking via long range holofac, mission coordinator Finn McMillan reported that, "we've located two neutron stars in the area that closely match the characteristics of Cassiopeia A. The most promising of which was discovered last spring by Commander Belthize during his own independent expedition."

"In addition to the search for Cassiopeia A we've identified 92 possible candidates for Tycho G, the surviving progenitor of the Tycho supernova event. We’re still classifying these stars for our final report to Universal Cartographics in hopes that this data will close the chapter on the mystery surrounding the precise location of both Cassiopeia A and Tycho's Star."

 

[CMDR_Halceon]

Looking forward to the final report. I was checking out the spreadsheet last night, and it's impressive that the search has yielded two candidates for each object, from what I can see. It will be interesting to see the final report and the response from the powers that be.

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Out of curiousity, can I ask if there's a significance to the change in your avatar, CMDR McMillan? I think it changed, didn't it?

Speaking of graphics, I notice that lots of people add badges to their sigs. Is there an etiquette involved? Are the participants in this expedition invited to use your Cassiopeia expedition badge, for example?

 

[Jaiotu]

Looking forward to the final report. I was checking out the spreadsheet last night, and it's impressive that the search has yielded two candidates for each object, from what I can see. It will be interesting to see the final report and the response from the powers that be.

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Out of curiousity, can I ask if there's a significance to the change in your avatar, CMDR McMillan? I think it changed, didn't it?

Speaking of graphics, I notice that lots of people add badges to their sigs. Is there an etiquette involved? Are the participants in this expedition invited to use your Cassiopeia expedition badge, for example?

Yeah, I've been playing around with my avatar a little

Switched it out again this morning by putting Cassiopeia A in it. Better?

Feel free to use the Cassiopeia Project badge all your like. I think the main ettiquette on here is that if you use a badge then participate in whatever the badge represents. Or something

EDIT: For me, anyone who signed up for the Cassiopeia Project is entitled to use the logo, regardless of level of participation.

 

[CMDR_Halceon]

Yeah, I've been playing around with my avatar a little

Switched it out again this morning by putting Cassiopeia A in it. Better?

Yes, I like the change. I wasn't swift enough to note that the color in the background was Cassiopeia A, but either way it looks good, and it has meaning for those more observant than me.

 

[Jaiotu]

The final debriefing for the Cassiopeia Project is now online. All we can do now is wait and see if Universal Cartographics delivers data based on our results. Keep flying!

[video=youtube_share;UNJiuHfnP1M]https://youtu.be/UNJiuHfnP1M[/video]

 

[CMDR_Halceon]

Thanks for such a nice capstone to the project!

 

[raymondo the great]

Great finish!

Looks like soddish managed to get his data home first for the one I found though dammit lol! Real life sucks some times!

I'm now back in the bubble, handed over 1174 reports to CoR for the CG, got myself in the top 10% of that, thanks to one and all, but espeicallly to Commander Finn for running this

o7 commanders

 

[soddish]

Looks like soddish managed to get his data home first for the one I found though dammit lol! Real life sucks some times!

Oops, sorry about that. Atleast it belongs to a member of the search team though, and serves you right for being slower than a T7

 

[Jaiotu]

Oops, sorry about that. Atleast it belongs to a member of the search team though, and serves you right for being slower than a T7

Yeah ... that was my biggest worry. I visited a lot of the stars that we identified first-hand and was afraid I might be "stealing" someone else's first discoveries. At the rate I'm going though ya'll will have unloaded your data weeks before I make it back.

 

[CMDR_Halceon]

Jaiotu,

Don't know if you're still checking this thread, but I'm curious whether final reports have been submitted and whether we're now waiting on a response from FD. I think you said earlier that you'd submit different versions and see which (if any) they use.

 

[Jaiotu]

Jaiotu,

Don't know if you're still checking this thread, but I'm curious whether final reports have been submitted and whether we're now waiting on a response from FD. I think you said earlier that you'd submit different versions and see which (if any) they use.

Still here

I have sumbmitted several different versions of a Galnet article to Frontier. No response. I'm very disappointed that our efforts appear to have gone unrecognised.

Rest assured, I will continue to press on this. We need an answer. ANY answer.

 

[raymondo the great]

I'm still here too, though despite having this set to "instant" notifications via email I didn't get one for 3 comments...

@Soddish, no worries, part of the team thing lol, and historically in exploration getting there first wasn't the biggie... it was getting back, so it's "realistic" lol

@Jaiotu, yeah disappointing to have nothing further, I don't know if you follow Drew on twitter, but he did a post about wanting factions who helped the Feds in the recent goal (grrrr) and also mentioned that "act 1" was finished yesterday, I was hoping he was talking Elite in game story, but I guess not

 

[Jaiotu]

I'm still here too, though despite having this set to "instant" notifications via email I didn't get one for 3 comments...

@Soddish, no worries, part of the team thing lol, and historically in exploration getting there first wasn't the biggie... it was getting back, so it's "realistic" lol

@Jaiotu, yeah disappointing to have nothing further, I don't know if you follow Drew on twitter, but he did a post about wanting factions who helped the Feds in the recent goal (grrrr) and also mentioned that "act 1" was finished yesterday, I was hoping he was talking Elite in game story, but I guess not

I've decided to "go with it".

With zero feedback from Frontier as to whether or not missing stars are a bug, an omission or a genuine anomaly I am forced to assume that what we saw during our expedition with our own eyes is, in fact, the truth. Although the supernova events of Cassiopeia A and Tycho's Star were observable from Earth in the past there is no remaining evidence of their existence. Some unimaginable force has either torn them from our galaxy, consumed them whole or hidden them from our view.

What else can we do? We've searched for them but found nothing conclusive. We've submitted bug reports. We've attempted to address their absence via Galnet. No word from Frontier.

 

[Jaiotu]

Greetings once again.

A final update. I asked this question on the Canonn megathread:

Spoiler

Posting this here hoping the catch the eye of Michael Brookes or someone with Frontier who can give an answer ... because I'm convinced it is important to some of the galactic mysteries.

I've postulated a theory that Cassiopeia A is relevant in some way to the Formidine Rift mystery. It fits too many of the hints and clues that have been given to be ruled out.

The central source for the Cas A supernova remnant is CXOU J232327.8+584842. Other CXOU objects exist in the Elite galaxy (CXOU J061705.3+222127 for example) so we know that the developers did consult the Chandra X-Ray Observatory catalog when inserting non-procedurally generated stars into the galaxy.

Cas A, or at least the central source CXOU J232327.8+584842, should exist in the game as a neutron star. Galnet news ran my Freelance Report regarding our expedition to locate Cassiopeia A and a followup article was posted to the local news in Sol just prior to the expedition setting out. I've submitted a few different articles reporting the results of our expedition but none of those were picked up for publication in Galnet or any local system news feed.

I've bug reported Cassiopeia A status as a missing star but haven't heard anything (the bug report predates the expedition to locate it). My question about it got asked on Frontier live stream but Sandro didn't have an answer (not his area of expertise).

The question remains: Do I trust my own eyes and continue down this path of trying to figure out what happened to Cassiopeia A and some other well know astronomical objects that should be out there but aren't? Can someone at Frontier tell me if what I'm seeing (or not seeing in this case) is what I'm supposed to see or it this is just a case of something being missing because it got accidentally skipped or otherwise was deemed not important enough to be placed into the game galaxy?

Should I continue to sound the alarm that something in the Elite galaxy has the power to either destroy, erase or hide objects on an astronomical scale or simply accept their absence as a necessary limitation of the game? I don't mind either way I just don't want to be pointing people in the wrong direction if I don't have to.

A complete thread with everything our team did to locate both Cassiopeia A and Tycho's supernova remnant can be found here along with some videos we did for the project: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/297941-The-Cassiopeia-Project

And within four minutes got this answer back from Michael Brookes:

It's not listed in the catalogues we used, so wouldn't have been included.

Michael

So nice to finally have an answer! Maybe one of these days we can get them to add it.

 

[CMDR_Halceon]

It's funny how that worked. But I'm still happy I went along, and thanks for starting something that got me out of "Solo" for the first time.

Now the question is, how does Finn McMillan deal with the equivalent of the voice of God retconning the universe while he waits on a planet that may or may not throw him out of reality the next time he looks out the windows of his SRV? The universe is strange indeed!

 

[Jaiotu]

It's funny how that worked. But I'm still happy I went along, and thanks for starting something that got me out of "Solo" for the first time.

Now the question is, how does Finn McMillan deal with the equivalent of the voice of God retconning the universe while he waits on a planet that may or may not throw him out of reality the next time he looks out the windows of his SRV? The universe is strange indeed!

Finn will probably pull a Jasmina Halsey and say he heard the voice of one of the "true architects of the universe".

It was a fun expedition. I learned a lot about how the galactic coordinates work and, for once, felt like my exploration was going toward a real target. Honestly, I'm just glad to finally have an answer.

 

[raymondo the great]

Minor necro here for those who like me gave the info they got from this project to the CoR

Unlike the last competing goal where it went to the feds and came to nothing....this one has "moved the story forwards" a bit, so thanks to all those who did turn in their information

This is what we got

The Children of Raxxla, based in the HR 6421 system, have released an analysis of the exploration data recovered by the galactic community in November last year.


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A spokesperson for the organisation said:

"There was a vast amount of data to sift through, but our analysis led to some notable discoveries in the Formidine Rift, the Conflux and Hawkin's Gap. There are indications that some kind of covert mission took place in these regions back in the 3270s. So far we have found shipwrecks, beacons and abandoned settlements dating from that time, and logs and records relating to this strange mission."

"It appears that a fleet was despatched, over 30 years ago, to install a series of beacons in the region. None of the ships returned to their point of origin. It seems that this mission was called 'the Dynasty Project'. The purpose of the mission isn't yet clear, but it was evidently a massive undertaking, particular given the technological limitations of the time – it would have taken a year to complete that journey 30 years ago."

The spokesperson was asked if the data supported the organisation's belief that Kahina Loren was innocent of the attempted assassination of Admiral Denton Patreus.

"Unfortunately there is nothing in the data that throws new light on Salomé's demise. But before she was arrested, she indicated that these three sectors were significant. We now believe that that is why she was killed."