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Zangief

Zangief
jontycampbell said:
I'm not David Bowie you know.:)
I pledged an appropriate tier, raised the amount several times, thus can choose a selecton of gaming turf that has my name on it, that is as far as it goes. What others do with my name of course, is entirely their business.:D
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You mean I shouldnt start a Jonty fan-club? Awwwwwwww :S
 

Juniper

Juniper
Cosmos said:
Its a fair question, what will be our roles as DDF members? Currently it is extremely vague - and I do hope for some clarification on the matter. I am growing ever increasingly concerned with the way in which these forums are being managed and delivered.

Equally, Sygyon (and who knows who else) is a pledger and now also further empowered beyond that of an official capacity. I hope I am wrong but I am very concerned in how things are going to work out here.

It is great that Michael has communicated with the KS community but there is something a miss here. Really.

For example.. Why is Jonty the person to be heralded as an icon, Why were recent decisions made regarding new forum moderators? How were those decisions made?

I'm not going to overly exaggerate these matters but Frontier needs to get its act together. Many people have pledged a lot of money to make this all happen - and I would hope that in a few weeks we can have a much better idea of what is going on.

What we need are clear guidelines on how all these important features will be effectively delivered. What will be the process of DDF members, how much say will they have, how will that work? Indeed, what about the other backers how will they be involved.

I do hope that we will see some clarification on these issues by February. I love the concept art but now let us have some better understanding of how things are going to work out./
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Here's the thing...

I don't think there is any "process" involved with the DDF. I might be wrong, but to me, it's just another forum like this one - slightly less busy (i.e. with fewer members) but FD will post in it more often & give us insights into what they're working on. As to our role within it - we won't have one per se. We will simply be the mob. Frontier will listen, take what we say under consideration, and then do what they feel is best... which may or may not be what the majority of the DDF want.

As for Styggron and the other forum moderators - presumably they were asked, and they accepted. That's about it.

We all want a good game out of this. We have to trust that FD are going to deliver that - that's why we pledged as much as we did.

At the moment, they are still (presumably) putting the team together, working how who is going to do what, what the priorities & milestones are going to be, and so on. It's the same as any other large software project in that regard. What's different is that they also have obligations to thousands of backers rather than a single publisher that they need to fulfil. But as they mentioned in yesterday's update, they're getting to it. Give them time. :)
 
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Carsten

Carsten
Juniper said:
Here's the thing...

I don't think there is any "process" involved with the DDF. I might be wrong, but to me, it's just another forum like this one - slightly less busy (i.e. with fewer members) but FD will post in it more often & give us insights into what they're working on. As to our role within it - we won't have one per se. We will simply be the mob. Frontier will listen, take what we say under consideration, and then do what they feel is best... which may or may not be what the majority of the DDF want.

As for Styggron and the other forum moderators - presumably they were asked, and they accepted. That's about it.

We all want a good game out of this. We have to trust that FD are going to deliver that - that's why we pledged as much as we did.

At the moment, they are still (presumably) putting the team together, working how who is going to do what, what the priorities are going to be, and so on. It's the same as any other large software project in that regard. What's different is that they also have obligations to thousands of backers rather than a single publisher that they need to fulfil. But as they mentioned in yesterday's update, they're getting to it. Give them time. :)
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Well put :)
 

JKF

JKF
Sygyon and other KS pledgers have probably been made moderators because they have been members for many years and the forums have become so much more busy, so more moderators are required.

The moderators for the DDF, and maybe the PBF, will probably be Frontier staff.

The Jonty thread and similar are just ideas being discussed on the main forum and unless FD introduce such ideas in the DDF are not likely to be discussed there.

There are many discussions in the main forum that are never likely to see the light of day in the DDF but that doesn't mean they're not good ideas or that people shouldn't talk about them.

Think I'll be visiting the main forum regularly as I find many of the suggestions/discussions very entertaining, plus there is always the chance that the answer to a DDF discussion will be found.
 

Memnoch

M
Personally I think its way to early to get terribly worried about any of that stuff. To put it in perspective they haven't even launched either of the two new forums or even the site allowing us to choose our pledge-upgrade goodies. I don't see Jonty as an icon, good bloke though he may be! ;)
 

Cosmos

C
Perhaps your right.. it isn't that long since the project was funded and I am a bit overly eager and excited about the game.

I do maintain the design decision forum details have been extremely vague. That should have been more clearly specified during the Kickstarter project - right now many people continue to speculate what it will entail.
 

Juniper

Juniper
Cosmos said:
Perhaps your right.. it isn't that long since the project was funded and I am a bit overly eager and excited about the game.

I do maintain the design decision forum details have been extremely vague. That should have been more clearly specified during the Kickstarter project - right now many people continue to speculate what it will entail.
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Understandable... we all want the game right now, and after the euphoria of the KS campaign finale, there is a little bit of "now what?" in a lot of us I think.

As for the design forum, I've no doubt that the pattern of it will become clear in a few weeks once the forum is in existence and everyone (including FD in that) figure out some kind of equilibrium of how it's going to work.

Exciting times lie ahead, I feel. :)
 

drew

drew
The last update indicated that we would need to wait until the end of the month before the DDF and other forums are up and running. FD (and MB inparticularly) have a lot of work to do in the interim, with planning the game project itself, meting out the physical pledges and ensuring they can be delivered, and recruiting new staff. I suggest we wait patiently until then.

Cheers,

Drew.
 

Mark S.

M
I'm sure any speculation about NDAs is nonsense. We will not be privy to any secret that is commercialy sensitive - hence no NDAs.

FD have their own game designers and the vision of DB to deal with the core development of the game. I therefore don't expect any fundamental game design decisions to be made in the DDF.

So what is my role as a DDF member? Simply an individual who has "volunteered" (albeit at the cost of a penny or two) to be available if FD want an opinion on something.

And don't forget, DB has mentioned that the role of DDF members will continue well after the release of the initial game. So I'm looking forward to, maybe, having a very, very small say in what additional features appear in expansion packs and in what order they are implemented.

But I certainly don't expect to have any decision making powers.
 

Mister Moo

Mister Moo
K_B said:
Actually I'm Austrian school. Its the muppets over at the Keysian school who believe in creative destruction, that wars and hurricanes make everyone richer :rolleyes:
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Not really. It was Schumpeter, who got the idea from a close reading of Marx. He thought destruction of existing distributed and common wealth that cleared the field for the next round of expansion by the already wealthy was an inherent feature of capitalism, and something negative. Much later, the neo-liberal, pro-free market economists, who are principally neo-classicists, i.e. anti-Keynsian, took the term and claimed it as a slogan.

You can find some background here.
 

Slopey

Volunteer Moderator
Slopey
For me, the value of the DDF forums is that it'll hopefully be a civilised forum, of Elite enthusiasts, with a high signal to noise ratio, with the added bonus that Frontier will occasionally post/ask for opinions. As above, I'd expect Frontier to have their feature set and core mechanics determined in-house, with only feedback required mostly.

(Not that the ED forums are bad for S/N at the moment however.)

Also, access to the Alpha and Betas is important for me - there's no way I can wait until release to get a look at (and help bug test) whatever Frontier are putting out! ;)
 

Kerrash

Kerrash
Slopey said:
For me, the value of the DDF forums is that it'll hopefully be a civilised forum, of Elite enthusiasts, with a high signal to noise ratio, with the added bonus that Frontier will occasionally post/ask for opinions. As above, I'd expect Frontier to have their feature set and core mechanics determined in-house, with only feedback required mostly.

(Not that the ED forums are bad for S/N at the moment however.)

Also, access to the Alpha and Betas is important for me - there's no way I can wait until release to get a look at (and help bug test) whatever Frontier are putting out! ;)
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I will do my very best to help filter the white noise ;)
 
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