Temporal anti aliasing will probably be available at the store too.
When will non-placeholder gameplay be available at the store?
[Graphics] Can someone explain what this is?
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When will non-placeholder gameplay be available at the store?
This is further down the line, its something they are looking at but no ETA no promises
Buy an Idris... oops more paint jobs
Serious: Gameplay will be stretched as thin each expansion as possible, they will not give us a finished game gameplay wise because they know this is what most people are after, so they will put important pieces of a puzzle in seperate 50$ expansion each... If they were to complete the gameplay people would buy that and maybe 1 later expansion, but if they stretch the gameplay completion through all the upcomming seasons we will be forced to buy them all to get a working game promissed to us in the KS; the broken game we have is working as intended.
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Complete the gameplay? It's hardly even moved on in two years? Anyhoo, I've taken us off thread and I apologise...
The answer is need temporal anti aliasing, not coloured thrusters...
Its not the Engine's Fault. Other known Engines have the same Problems in rendering this Scale. It has partially to do with Scope: Target Texels smaller than Pixels - thats why doubling/trippling the Texels per Pixel helps with the Issue ( Supersampling ).
The base AA Methods just apply a few Methods of Standard AA Filters on the Last Stage/Batch. Which works for Shooters and the such mostly because they dont have to render this Precision. Then, there is also Deferred shading which you can basically imagine as combining several Texture plates to get the Final image. Whereas the Background is one, the planets and then your Cockpit and then the GUI. AA Simply looks at the combined image but has not all precision from each batch at Hand.
And this AA Problem is actually a Matter of teh Display Device not beeing able to cope with the rendered precision ( This is a very new Problem and shows that the COBRA Engine is indeed up-to-date ). A temporairy fix has been developed by AMD with Temporal AA Methods which solve most of the Problems by loosing very less Performance but can increase blurryness on fast Movements. This Method is slowly adapted but still not perfect. FDev may introduce this somewhere towards the ps4 Release. For AMD Users this can be driver enforced / For nvidia ill have to try sometime ( got both in my rig while i mostly play on AMD while my Geforce renders on other stuff - but thats besides teh point ).
Hope this clarifies some things for less tech savvy people.
ps. i am an engine dev and also did some work on lumberyard ( the iteration of CE that SC now uses ) - which struggles with exactly the same problems. Todays GPU's deliver too much Precision for our Age Old-every-pixel-has-the-same-size Display Technology.
If we can make - based on some sane settings ( Ultra in this case is not always better because it also increases needed precision from the display device ) a few comparison shots - we may be able to find the right settings for people, which look better and less jagged in the end ( even if not everything is called "Ultra" - because thats part of the Problem! Your saying teh Engine it shall do its best - and its best is better than what your display can handle ).
Its not a simple Task to balance the Settings out ( there's alot more in the XML File ) for every Display Configuration/HMD Multimonitor Setup out there. So, if somone understands a little about what i was talking about with a recent Geforce ( i got only a GTX 780/4G to test with ) we could work something out for the most common Resolutions... Or ill simply hit Dr. Kaii on it.
i hope everyone + their Spacecat gets it now
Cheers!
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Great post mate! Repped.
So you're saying AMD has developed their own iteration of driver based temporal anti aliasing? By blurring you mean ghosting? Very interesting nonetheless.
I don't think the COBRA Engine is bad. It just struggles with things that might be new to Frontier. You can clearly see these issues in Planet Coaster as well. But we have to give the engine, and its developers a chance.
Ed Lewis said "They're at the technological front with ED" and they need to prove it with the PS4 Release. Pro owners are craving for crisp graphics and won't tolerate a new game on the Pro without tech such as checkerboarding (not a mandatory tech but you understand).
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Well, glad to know it's not my graphics card or settings, my card is a GTX 770, supersampling is out of the question in this game, currently I run with MSAAx4, have tried FXAA, a little too much blur for me, oddly though, I run at 1920x1080 like you, and even though I got the jaggy's, they're not as pronounced as yours.