The Star Citizen Thread v5

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But while everyone is begging for Frontier for a Python ship kit, and starting the 578th thread of "will Planet Coaster give us space legs in Elite?!?!" - I'm flying around a new galaxy, leaving my ship, walking around the interior wreckage of a crashed ship, running about hallways enjoying firefights, and enjoying some space combat that doesn't involve spending a few weeks trying to find 10T of Polonium so that I can engineer my ship with some overpowered heat weapons that will be nerfed to hell in 4 weeks.

Calling the vicinity of one planet "a new galaxy" makes me think your post isn't exactly serious.
 
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Because cheats NEVER happen in Elite.

They do happen and FD is doing updates to battle them - and so will CIG if SC is ever released.

What was pointed out however was Chris pitch about how game would be protected against such cheats right out the gate. Maybe it is still on road map, true, but having wall hacks and autobots appearing so quickly does not bode well for a game who wants to take on other games.

Either SC is just another game with normal issues or it is dat PC gaming savior. It can't be really both.
 
Because competitive combat isn't a thing yet in SC

It hasn't been a thing in Elite for months, due to Engineers and Combat Logging... but in any case, there's certainly an element of skill involved in SC. It's refreshing.

and space legs aren't released yet for ED.

Yeah, we know that.

Calling the vicinity of one planet "a new galaxy" makes me think your post isn't exactly serious.

Oh, please. Planet, system, galaxy - pick whatever word makes you happy. "Space-Based-Game-Environment-With-Stars-and-Stuff".

What was pointed out however was Chris pitch about how game would be protected against such cheats right out the gate.

Well, SC isn't out of the gate yet. ;)

Despite the sales pitch, I'm sure SC will have to deal with hacking just as many other games do. My point was that if hacking hasn't been fatal to Elite, it likely won't be fatal to SC.
 
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Because cheats NEVER happen in Elite. ;)

Of course cheats happen in ED, if you look around the web you can find them complaining about bans. How does that stack against thousand dollar spaceships ? either losing the account to a ban or using money exploits to easily get them and sell them on (17 Draconis is very popular). The ship sales and grey market can't survive contact with release.

You might want to remove the clip, naming and shaming is against forum rules.

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Calling the vicinity of one planet "a new galaxy" makes me think your post isn't exactly serious.

It's no more unrealistic than the 100 system at launch stuff.
 
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It's no more unrealistic than the 100 system at launch stuff.

I have a weird habit of evaluating games by what they are, not what developers claim they are going to be, or their fans hope they are going to be. SC's PU is right here, so I feel fully justified in criticizing people that are trying to overstate its' features for no reason.
 
It hasn't been a thing in Elite for months, due to Engineers and Combat Logging... but in any case, there's certainly an element of skill involved in SC. It's refreshing.

Not every player is cheater, logger or abuses Engineers. But you sure know that. SC and skill - not a thing yet.
 
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Of course cheats happen in ED, if you look around the web you can find them complaining about bans. How does that stack against thousand dollar spaceships ?

Erm - it doesn't stack at all, because "thousand dollar spaceships" is 2 completely different topics. I don't have a thousand dollar spaceship in SC...

You might want to remove the clip, naming and shaming is against forum rules.

Already modded out. But ironic that TOS allows personal attacks on Chris and his wife, but won't allow a video showing a shield hack in Elite. ;)
 
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It won't be a different topic when someone loses his cash-bought ship because of cheating.

I can tell you're trying to make a point here, but can't tell what it is...

If someone paid $1000 actual cash for a ship, and cheats, and gets banned - I've no problem with it.

On the other side of that - if you paid $1000 actual cash for a ship, and it was destroyed by another player who was cheating - you aren't "out" your ship. You've either already got lifetime insurance, or in-game credits to replace it.
 
Is SC still going with the idea that LTI replacements will take time and that time will increase per repeated insurance claim? So if a big ship dollar investor is unlucky, lacking skill, or gets perma-camped by someone using cheats, they could quickly find their big ship off limits until it gets built in X hours time?
 
I can tell you're trying to make a point here, but can't tell what it is...

I'm just explaining Stigbob's point as I see it and pointing out a possible problem.

If someone paid $1000 actual cash for a ship, and cheats, and gets banned - I've no problem with it.

On the other side of that - if you paid $1000 actual cash for a ship, and it was destroyed by another player who was cheating - you aren't "out" your ship. You've either already got lifetime insurance, or in-game credits to replace it.

First case - perhaps you won't, but the person who paid this amount of money certainly will. Not to mention possible false positives. Second case - there are still ships sold without insurance, even though all those shenanigans with buying cheap LTI ships and melting them or whatever to transfer LTI to the more expensive ship it's a minority. Still, at least two cases where expensive ships and cheating are related issues.
 
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Still curious whether Port Olisar is going to get any larger to provide any explanation for where all these ships are popping into thin air from.

It's all very cute them getting excited about how cargo should be hand loaded and you should be able to watch it go into a ship and interrupt that etc - BUT WHERE IS THE GODDAMN SHIP COMING FROM?!?!?

Happy New Year and 3.0 Commandos :)
 
Does anyone have the 300i series? I'm looking at the 315P explorer. I love the look of it. I built something similar in KSP to fly too.
 
IFirst case - perhaps you won't, but the person who paid this amount of money certainly will.

I'm sure a cheater who got banned (and lost their investment) for employing a wall hack would be upset. But the fatal mistake, in such a case, is made by the player - not RSI.

Still curious whether Port Olisar is going to get any larger to provide any explanation for where all these ships are popping into thin air from.

It's probably like SLF and ships in Elite - they just come from "nowhere".

Or a magical room where 3D printing is done, take your pick.
 
Still curious whether Port Olisar is going to get any larger to provide any explanation for where all these ships are popping into thin air from.

It's all very cute them getting excited about how cargo should be hand loaded and you should be able to watch it go into a ship and interrupt that etc - BUT WHERE IS THE GODDAMN SHIP COMING FROM?!?!?

Happy New Year and 3.0 Commandos :)

Come on, if we pointed out issues with every single claim of CIG, we would be on the tenth iteration of this thread. By the way, to anyone who would claim we are too lenient of FDev - I would say you might be right and there is a support group for likeminded folks under this link: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/forumdisplay.php/30-Dangerous-Discussion

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I'm sure a cheater who got banned (and lost their investment) for employing a wall hack would be upset. But the fatal mistake, in such a case, is made by the player - not RSI.

Depends on TOS, to be honest I'm not sure how's the legal situation when it comes to losing items bought with micro/macrotransactions after being banned. It doesn't matter whose mistake it was, though, micro/macrotransactions and cheating are still related issues.
 
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Depends on TOS, to be honest I'm not sure how's the legal situation when it comes to losing items bought with micro/macrotransactions after being banned.

(you may not)

- Exploit errors in design, features which are not documented and/or bugs to gain access that would otherwise not be available or to obtain any competitive advantage.
- Reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble all or any portion of the RSI Services.

"If your Account, or a particular subscription for an RSI Service associated with your Account, is terminated for your breach, no refund will be granted; no online time or other credits will be credited to you or converted to cash or other form of reimbursement, and you will have no further access to your Account (or to any related entitlements associated with your Account or the particular RSI Service)."

Seems fairly clear.
 
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