The Eve Online Thread

God it's tempting to jump back in. Best not though I have children.

I was tempted, I had some good times in EVE, but the skill list for 'Alpha clones' is too limiting.

I used to love scanning the most, I would spend hours searching for stuff, exploration was a lot of fun.
 
Yes the exploration was very gratifying. Took some learning to get it down right but worth it. The risk/reward/effort dynamic was well balanced.

Some other games not a million miles away could learn something from it.
 
Well, if one feels especially whiteknighty today towards other games, one could say that current EVE's scanning mechanics were introduced in the Apocrypha expansion, only six years after the base game's release.
 
I concede that to you sir :)

However a variation on that established theme to alluded game might have been worth a bash.
 
scanning and exploration in Eve was around before Apocrypha, that was an overhaul on the existing mechanics, I believe it was introduced in 2006 in 'Revelations'.

The old style was a lot harder and much more time consuming but still very rewarding.
 
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Yes that's right as far as I remember. It was double nails hard then it got a great reworking without destroying the thing that made it great.
 
Now that it is Free to Play. I wonder if I shall give it a try.
I remember that I tested it once as a free Trial in the past and couldn't figure out what is fascinating about that game.
I loved the character that I could create but that's about it. Gameplay wise I found nothing interesting to do. Whenever I see a youtube it looks too show boring screens all the time. If there is an united ED Player Group going there I might give it a try but alone I think it ist nothing for me sicne I have no clue what to do in that game.
 
Now that it is Free to Play. I wonder if I shall give it a try.
I remember that I tested it once as a free Trial in the past and couldn't figure out what is fascinating about that game.
I loved the character that I could create but that's about it. Gameplay wise I found nothing interesting to do. Whenever I see a youtube it looks too show boring screens all the time. If there is an united ED Player Group going there I might give it a try but alone I think it ist nothing for me sicne I have no clue what to do in that game.

What do you do in ED ?
 
What do you do in ED ?

Pretty much everything includign exploring and wroking the BGS. But First Person VR oculus Rift combat in an agily fighter drone in a busy war Zone is my thing. Something Eve doesn't offer.
X3 had both action and economics. So an ideal game for me would be an Elite-X
 
Pretty much everything includign exploring and wroking the BGS. But First Person VR oculus Rift combat in an agily fighter drone in a busy war Zone is my thing. Something Eve doesn't offer.
X3 had both action and economics. So an ideal game for me would be an Elite-X

Didn't Eve do something with a more arcady type thing ?
 
The utter key to enjoying Eve is to get in a corp. There are countless corps. Big and small, combat or non combat orientated, high low or null security focused. And lots of other dynamics you could choose from.

I'd suggest doing the tutorial in its entirety it's a good introduction into a lot of what Eve is about. After that youll get a sense of what you'd like to do. Then find a corp to join on the eve forums there is an entire sub section based round recruiting with corps pitching for players.

I loved the 9 years I played Eve I played at all levels from member to corp CEO. I found it the best community I have ever played in, sure it has some reputation and that's well deserved IF you choose to go looking for that reputation. Beyond that I found 99% of players helpful and dedicated within the corps I was part of. They are more than willing to assist new players showing them the ropes, free stuff etc. I would say that the ability and desire to be in voice chat is a must.

Eve is very slick now and has an incredible amount of depth in every aspect. It is not a solo game whatsoever if you approach the game thinking of going solo you won't enjoy it I can be virtually certain of that.
 
EVE online is all about playing in corps. I played for a number of years but the Corp gameplay was never my thing. There are a number of new player friendly corps, look at the EVE University. They help new players understand the game and have people to play with.
 
I was tempted, I had some good times in EVE, but the skill list for 'Alpha clones' is too limiting.

I used to love scanning the most, I would spend hours searching for stuff, exploration was a lot of fun.

Hey folks, coming to the party late but hey :)

I was thinking about getting back to EVE after the F2P model hit but in the end its a permanent trial account nothing else. I agree, the limitations to the alpha clone are designed to hook you into the game and the exact same model was available before the changes if only through trial accounts which probably didnt generate enough interest so now its called "free to play" without changing anything really. I agree with Riedquat. I had a good time in EVE but in the end everything was too much catering to PvP for my taste and the activities I could do didnt justify the monthly sub regarding the fact that at this time skill-ups took me weeks already.

I still admire its design and have the utmost respect for it. I think its a smashing success I just got tired of it in the long run.
 

Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/01/04/eve-onlines-free-to-play-update-might-change-your-mind/

That makes it tempting to re-enter EVE. I've tried it on and off for years, and it's never quite clicked. It's such a strange beast...at once thrilling and boring, brimming with possibilities and yet restrictive. I really want to like the 'meta' that is king in this game.... player corporations and all the RL drama therein, but I just don't have the time or the stomach for it. I had some great interactions with folks in EVE but I really do require more solo experiences at this stage in my life (given time constraints).
 
The complexity of the game hooked me when I first started out. Mining for example seemed to be the easiest thing to get into yet is so deep that it requires heavy tinkering with your "build" as well as some research in order to yield optimal results. I mined my first asteroid after 10 minutes of jumping into it, became GOOD at mining 2 months later I think when the required skills finished enabling me to fly the "real" ships and after that finetuning and optimizing continued. I was in awe before this as mining (tho critical factor in the game) is THE most scoffed-at activity you can do (the playerbase ridicule and mock miners). When I got bored of mining I was thinking about adding to my activity portfolio and planned ahead, finally set myself on mission running and that opened a whole new world of options and possebilities. The variety in ships is awesome (and many of the designs are simply breathtaking). The balance is constantly worked on and doesnt squeeze you into a single way to do stuff (FOTM). YOu have CHOICE and FREEDOM in how you approach things.

It can be all pretty overwhelming so being in a helpfull corp helps tons. I mean menu operation and finding the correct buttons in that cast flood of stuff is a challenge already. But thats what I found so incredibly fascinating.

I worked up my mission ranks, upped my ship types to Battleship (pretty much the end before you delve into hardcore endgame) and participated in my first fleet operations aiming to "rack in the dough". Boy was that NOT fun at all. I was so excited and hyped about it all and then it was a complete disappointment. The pressure, the tunneling into a certain view in order to be effective, no freedom in fitting at all, you either have the required gear or you are out and the overall tone in those fleets. You can have some nice groups but overall most of these people have run missions ad nauseum for years now and have lil to no tolerance for newbies or mistakes and they dont hesitate to tell you how much you su*k.

PvP...is pretty much the same basically you are forced into playing the game at max zoom-out in order to keep your overview and rely heavily on micro-managing for efficiency. Its too hectic and too forced for my taste, I never really enjoyed it. That left me with the "passive" activities which can be fun but after 6 months you run into the skill-wall as in any meaningfull skill-up takes weeks or even months to complete leaving you with the same old same old activities to run which you cant stand anymore. When I noticed that I pay my sub simply to check my skills every couple of days then log off (because ingame money wasnt an issue anymore) I stopped playing alltogether.

Usually games start slow and ramp up in speed when you aquire new skills, options, unlock areas etc. EVE is kinda the other way around. It starts out strong and after a while everything slows down. Due to its age there is nothing to explore or discover anymore. All the synergies and optimal ways are posted and analyzed a hundred times over. Thats what really put me off and prevents me from jumping on again.

edit: it might read like a crushing review but really....I LOVE EVE, its an awesome game, it just turns stale after a few months if you are not into PvP (I am not) but even if you are you ll probably get bored after a few more months. I still respect the game as a whole, how it grew over time, the internal beauty (structure) of it all, the player-driven economy. Simply B-E-U-tifull.
 
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Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
That's a really good review of the game, MTBFritz. I think you echo my feelings pretty well.
 

Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
So I installed EVE and am doing an Alpha clone 'free to play' account now after a several year break. Anyone have a good corporation suggestion for me? I'm hardly a hardcore player, so something a little more forgiving woukd be nice. :)
 
Hey Jenner. Long time since I was in game but there are lots of corps out there in game that will appreciate a new player. Like everything in the game it's quite fluid in terms of corporations but I'd probably suggest a look around at the recruitment sub forum over there. Your sure to find something compatible for your interests there.
 
So I installed EVE and am doing an Alpha clone 'free to play' account now after a several year break. Anyone have a good corporation suggestion for me? I'm hardly a hardcore player, so something a little more forgiving woukd be nice. :)

I found my own corps via the help channels but there is a dedicated menu for corporations and the recruitment/application for new members which I found very usefull once discovered. Have fun mate, I ll certainly will check back into it as well now that the "pressure" is off to "squeeze as much out of your sub as possible"
 
Shame it's limited to tech 1 stuff. A favourite role in my latter eve days was in dedicated tech 2 stealth ships doing exploration and fleet scanning for ships at safe spots etc.
 
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