Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[Julio Montega]

Something just sprung to mind!
Back in the day we theorized about aquatic lifeforms,
the naming of barnacles was an indicator to think on that road.
What about the following thoughts regarding the alien ship
and aquatic life:

- some aquatic lifeforms are able to self propell
- some aquatic lifeforms sneak up on their prey
- some aquatic lifeforms have extendable tubes, using them to catch prey floating around

The alien ship does extend those tubes powering up the yellow lights,
but it can not eat us, maybe because we are in ships made of metal and alloy,
which they cannot digest.
The fact that they interdict us in the jump leads to think, they are preying
in hyper/witchspace but on different prey than us.

 

[Thatchinho]

The use of morse is deliberate.

Michael

Thank you very much for the response Michael. Can I just check to make sure I/we interpret this correctly. I'm reading it to mean that the use of morse is part of the plot, and that Option 3 is officially ruled out (full list below for convenience). Is that the right interpretation?

Ok, so I've been meaning to bring this up for a while and have never bothered but it seems pertinent again now, particularly given the box in the ships cockpit and its man-made appearance,, and possible connections between the winterdictions and the UAs.

Given the fact that the UAs send message using morse code there are only 3 basic possibilities:

1. They are built by humans
2. They are built by something non-human that has either human heritage or has had human contact, and has specifically designed something to communicate in a way easily interpretable by humans (It's a trap!?)
3. The use of morse was purely something that FD used as part of a puzzle and they didn't think through what the implications of it were for the subject of the puzzle and the ongoing plot of the game

All the UA stuff happened well before I started playing so this may have all been sorted out at the time, but it generally seems to be that the UAs are considered Alien which would mean option 3 wrt the morse code. Has option 3 ever been confirmed as being the case?

If not, then surely the most likely origins for the UAs are human/human heritage.

 

[JesusRocks1988]

Well, I've spent many hours over the last few days trying to get hyperdicted in the UA shell, and so far nothing.

If encounters are entirely random, then I've been extremely unlucky after hundreds of jumps.

If there are criteria to improving your chances to getting hyperdicted, then we need more data. Everyone needs to report:

1. What system were they in when they were hyperdicted.
2. What ship were they in.
3. Did they recently get scanned by a UA.
4. Did they have a UA and/or a UP on board.
5. Solo/Private/Open.

edit: just noticed Xenia said pretty much the same above.

6th Jan 3303
1. Pleiades Sector OI-T C3-9 jumping to Pleiades Sector OI-T C3-8
2. Asp Explorer
3. Yes before I picked it up
4. Yes UA
5. Private

Took me about 5 hours of jumping around to get the encounter.

 

[rizal72]

Thank you very much for the response Michael. Can I just check to make sure I/we interpret this correctly. I'm reading it to mean that the use of morse is part of the plot, and that Option 3 is officially ruled out (full list below for convenience). Is that the right interpretation?

mmm I think MB meant that THEY (not FD) use MORSE deliberately, that translated means THEY want us to understand, THEY want to communicate somehow. Whoever made the UA at least.

 

[Kira Mikamy]

Just realised that I got a pretty good look at the "signal" in my video (which was taken in VR).

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/gGWNvWs.png

looks like my one, but reversed:

Spoiler

 

[Han_Zen]

So, here's my random speculation for the evening.

The use of morse is deliberate. Cool

But the UP and UA at least in appearance look derived from the same technology. However, the UP uses Octal.

https://media.giphy.com/media/2rqEdFfkMzXmo/giphy.gif

The Morse messages are meant for us. The octal message is probably data they need them self.

 

[Jmanis]

mmm I think MB meant that THEY (not FD) use MORSE deliberately, that translated means THEY want us to understand, THEY want to communicate somehow. Whoever made the UA at least.

I recall this isn't the first time MB has mentioned the use of morse is deliberate (at least since the UAs started pointing at Merope).

PS Riz, If it makes you feel better, 6 UA in the hold, one hour (50-odd) jumps later and nothing

 

[TheOneWithNoLife]

Just realised that I got a pretty good look at the "signal" in my video (which was taken in VR).

http://i.imgur.com/gGWNvWs.png

Spoiler

https://youtu.be/v_1pDGSXk6w

When you look directly at the ship the "code" is shrunk/stuffed together and you can't clearly make out the dashes. If you look to the left or to the right the dashes separate and are clearer to make out.

 

[Alec Turner]

looks like my one, but reversed:

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/JPDSUl6.jpg

Personally I suspect it's just lense flare (oh, and I have Bloom and Blur turned off by the way).

 

[rizal72]

I recall this isn't the first time MB has mentioned the use of morse is deliberate (at least since the UAs started pointing at Merope).

PS Riz, If it makes you feel better, 6 UA in the hold, one hour (50-odd) jumps later and nothing

I feel better now.

HOWEVER, SOMEONE FINALLY DISCOVERED THE REASON OF THE HYPERDICTION FROM THE ALIEN SHIP!

Spoiler

CMDR fruits from Reddit:

 

[Jmanis]

The Morse messages are meant for us. The octal message is probably data they need them self.

I dunno. If it's a message meant for us... why is it just a wireframe of our ship, or the name of the nearest body? And something bugged me when I picked up these six tonight. Why do the alien wrecks (besides the first one, and I rekon that's coz the guys from The Hunt nicked them) feature UA's scattered all over the place, and not UPs?

 

[Han_Zen]

Just realised that I got a pretty good look at the "signal" in my video (which was taken in VR).

http://i.imgur.com/gGWNvWs.png

Spoiler

https://youtu.be/v_1pDGSXk6w

I quite skeptical to this 'signal' but if there is something to it, Ram Tah's decoder might work on that one as well.

If they really wanted to tell us something, they could have used bloody Morse code.

 

[Th3 0utKa5t]

looks like my one, but reversed:

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/JPDSUl6.jpg

im not sure there is anything in that "code" the fact its different to you than it is to another pilot would say to me its not a code at all, thinking logically the reason for the change would most likely be due to the different cockpit styles the 2 ships have, this makes the light refract in a different way due to one being a flat angular surfaces and the the other being curved......thoughts?

 

[rizal72]

I dunno. If it's a message meant for us... why is it just a wireframe of our ship, or the name of the nearest body? And something bugged me when I picked up these six tonight. Why do the alien wrecks (besides the first one, and I rekon that's coz the guys from The Hunt nicked them) feature UA's scattered all over the place, and not UPs?

Because UA and UP have different origins: one is from Oresians who want to help/warn us, the other is from Kalaxians wo want...well.. you know.... Right?

EDIT:

Think this: if you do things that others can understand/read you are implicitly telling them they can know what you are doing, and that you are of no harm to them... I mean, the UA is doing its own things, but we can see what it is doing cause it's transmitting in a language we can understand = Nothing to hide.

 

[JesusRocks1988]

Ok people, here you are:

http://carbryck.com/EDSCREENS/4_Signal_Component_Sets.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/FpGBRau.jpg

Someone remembers?

Check the frontpage, Section "THERE COULD BE A SIGNAL HIDDEN IN THE OBELISKS SPECTROGRAM! "

Honestly, to me, the "barcode" from the alien ship bears a striking resemblance to the four corner glyphs on the UP spectrogram image.

 

[Tyger]

The use of morse is deliberate.

Michael

MB, will ED ever get to the stage where it will not require consistent input, switching, refinement and galaxy over-rule by Dev's - a 'D&D, dungeon master'?? This is nws patches. Thank you.

 

[rizal72]

Honestly, to me, the "barcode" from the alien ship bears a striking resemblance to the four corner glyphs on the UP spectrogram image.

Yes, I agree, could be. Worth keeping it in mind. Thanks

 

[Tunotemetas]

Just want to pint out this old article that I found:

INFERENCE OF THARGOID MENTAL PROCESSES FROM COMBAT RECORDS

S.L.A.M

By cross-indexing variables extracted from combat records of both human and Thargoid space vehicles with brain patterns and personality profiles of human pilots, scientists at the Alien Studies Institute (Alioth) have constructed what they claim to be an accurate model of Thargoid mental processes.

The model, constructed by a multidisciplinary team of human scientists and artificial intelligences, has so far been verified only by using it to regenerate combat maneuver sequences and tactical decisions, but a press release issued by the centre claims that the model reproduces observed behaviour with better than 99% accuracy. Former combat pilots asked to engage the model in simulated dogfights report that it responds convincingly.

"It felt just like bug-busting all over again. That thing flies like a Thargoid and it attacks like a Thargoid." said one veteran.

Critics of the experiment have suggested that the team, led by Professor Stefano Martinengo and Dr Gianna Cerri of the Federal Academy on Lee (Epsilon Indi), have invalidated their experimental results by the way in which they selected the parameters for extraction.

"Simulating Thargoid behaviour is not difficult. Any VR-game manufacturer can do as much," said Dr Joseph Andrews of the Alien Studies Institute (Alioth).

"It will take more than that to convince me that Martinengo's team have any real new insights into what made the Thargoids tick, buzz and whir."

The experimenters remain optimistic, however, and hope that simulations using their model may perhaps reveal something of the reasons behind the Thargoids' dramatic defeat and subsequent disappearance.



IMO it could be that this Thargoids are not as "alien" as we thought.

 

[Zefod]

The use of morse is deliberate.

Michael

I guess because of this "The first radio broadcast that was intended to be sent to extraterrestrial civilisations was transmitted on November 19, 1962 by a Soviet planetary radar. The transmitted message was "MIR" (means "peace" and "world"), "LENIN" and "SSSR" (Acronym for the Soviet Union). This message is commonly referred to as The Morse Message. Having travelled for a little more than 51 years, which means it has travelled little more than 51 light years or 4.8248 x 1014 km, it will have travelled past the stars I mentioned in the first paragraph." https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience...was_the_first_man_made_signal_to_leave_earth/

do i get extra XP for that mr DM?

 

[Thatchinho]

mmm I think MB meant that THEY (not FD) use MORSE deliberately

That's how I understood it too (hope that was clear from my question to Michael!). I'm just hoping to get confirmation that we are indeed understanding it correctly.

THEY want us to understand, THEY want to communicate somehow. Whoever made the UA at least.

That could definitely be the case, but I don't think we can draw that conclusion directly from Michael's comment - another explanation is that the use of morse is for their communication purposes and that they hadn't anticipated the probes being found by humans. A lot depends on who THEY are.