Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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Well the Glyths (Lines/Blocks/left/right) are reversed from other images ive seen.
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His ship is upside down
Yeh i thought that... but isnt this entire event scripted and runs the same for everyone?
Those symbols also align with the "map" from the UA don't they?
I've seem screenshots with them on both sides. Probably just a matter of the orientation of your ship when you are pulled out of the hyperlane conduit.
Probably re-enforces that it's some kind of message though.
It's also possible the crashed ship is *part* of the larger ship because it detaches, like Enterprise D saucer/engine section?
Kev
This is a bit of random factoid, but human fingers are much better suited to counting in base-12 or hexadecimal than decimal. Counting in decimal on your fingers effectively stops at 10 after which the basic mechanism no longer works, whereas base-12 goes up to 144 and hexadecimal goes up to 256.
It's not particularly on topic, but hey, it's all information, and you never know, it might come in useful some day, so how it works is below:
Counting on your fingers in base-12:
Right hand does 0-12/0-C, left hand does the 12's.
To start, palms are up, left hand does nothing, and right thumb is touched to the first section (near the tip)of the little finger on the right hand - that's 1. Move the thumb down to the next section - that's two. On to the bottom section - that's three. On to the tip of the next finger, that's 5. Down to the middle section - that's 6, and so on until you hit 12.
Once you've hit 12, left thumb is touched to the first section of the little finger on the left hand to signify there is 1 twelve, and you start again with your right hand.
Counting on your fingers in hexadecimal:
Exactly as for Base-12, but include the section of the palm below each finger to give 4 counting points on each digit.
Right hand does 0-12/0-C, left hand does the 12's.
To start, palms are up, left hand does nothing, and right thumb is touched to the first section (near the tip)of the little finger on the right hand - that's 1. Move the thumb down to the next section - that's two. On to the bottom section - that's three. On to the tip of the next finger, that's 5. Down to the middle section - that's 6, and so on until you hit 12.
Once you've hit 12, left thumb is touched to the first section of the little finger on the left hand to signify there is 1 twelve, and you start again with your right hand.
Counting on your fingers in hexadecimal:
Exactly as for Base-12, but include the section of the palm below each finger to give 4 counting points on each digit.
Anyway, the bearing of all this is to the discussion is that rather than invoking counting in binary, another explanation is that the three digits have either 2 joints (plus what's effectively a knuckle) or 3 joints (plus what's effectively a knuckle), and 1 digit is opposable to the other two. Under this model, with 4 limbs, the Thargoids would be able to count to 4,096 on their digits.
No I won't. Dxtory won't recognise Elite. .
Possibly, but I can't spot any section of the ship from the encounters which is actually missing from the crashed ship. The only exception is the thrusters, but they are a part of a larger section and those sections are present. The bit where the cockpit would be is in the ground so nothing can be deduced on that front either way but I'm going with it being present until it's shown to be missing.
There aren't as many of each section at the crash site as in the encounter ship (8 of each section apart from the hull), but the hull of the crashed ship definitely has 8 attachment points for the wings/petals, and appears to have 8 attachment point for each of the other sections, which suggests that ones of each section that can't be seen are just buried.
Revieweing the available information I conclude... that we need more information.
I would like to propose a few data that we need to collect from these Alien Interdictions:
Quality Video footage of the alien ship jumping through the portal:
For that, commander, you will need a fast ship able to catch up with the alien one. Get to its side, near to the portal, turn around a record clearly how she interacts with the Witch Space Portal it opens when it jumps through. It may give us some insight of its technology.
We still need more information on how the hyperdiction works.
Please, report your hyperdictions here. At this moment we need to check the following:
1) Were you scanned by an UA prior of the interdiction? If so, how long ago, approximately?
2) Please check the database here and try any combinations that have not been reported yet. I.E: try to get hyperdicted with a ship that has no reported hyperdictions yet, or with cargo no reflected in the sheet.
We need hypothesis
But please, safe your tinfoil hats: If you see any pattern in the database and you believe you can explain it, please post it there or send me a PM so we can test it out.
Thank you for your help, commanders. We will science the hell out of this!
I would like to propose a few data that we need to collect from these Alien Interdictions:
Quality Video footage of the alien ship jumping through the portal:
For that, commander, you will need a fast ship able to catch up with the alien one. Get to its side, near to the portal, turn around a record clearly how she interacts with the Witch Space Portal it opens when it jumps through. It may give us some insight of its technology.
We still need more information on how the hyperdiction works.
Please, report your hyperdictions here. At this moment we need to check the following:
1) Were you scanned by an UA prior of the interdiction? If so, how long ago, approximately?
2) Please check the database here and try any combinations that have not been reported yet. I.E: try to get hyperdicted with a ship that has no reported hyperdictions yet, or with cargo no reflected in the sheet.
We need hypothesis
But please, safe your tinfoil hats: If you see any pattern in the database and you believe you can explain it, please post it there or send me a PM so we can test it out.
Thank you for your help, commanders. We will science the hell out of this!
Speculation here, but perhaps the mycoid virus eventually took it's tool on the Thargoids in our galaxy. Assuming (adding a sprinkling of speculation here again) the new ship is Thargoid, it could be actually from another, more ancient branch that never heard from their Milky Way brethren (sorry, sistren) again - they could in fact be looking back to this galaxy to see what happened to them.
It would explain why, at the moment, encounters (prescribed or not) have not been malevolent - yet.
The whole thing smacks of Thargoid (to some, myself included, not others however) yet it's been a scan-turn-and-disappear affair of "whatever they are".
The "bar codes" in the view, although some have commented that it's the helmet's reflection, appears to myself to be a light pulse transmission waiting for feedback. It wouldn't be difficult even using today's technology to point a light beam and pulse the same information.
So perhaps we're dealing with their distant relatives who have come looking for them. So best not, in the words of Bazil Fawlty, "mention the war" (nudge nudge, wink wink, know what I mean!?)
It's great sat here in my tinfoil-wear sipping tea and munching on biscuits, but pretty much the pages since this has happened has been speculation - I like that, because we can read about everyone's opinions and ideas - that's what good, hard-core biscuit-inducing science is about. All we need to do now is continue with experiments and see where it leads us - and, if necessary, see what the new ship encounters yeild from "their" perspective...
It would explain why, at the moment, encounters (prescribed or not) have not been malevolent - yet.
The whole thing smacks of Thargoid (to some, myself included, not others however) yet it's been a scan-turn-and-disappear affair of "whatever they are".
The "bar codes" in the view, although some have commented that it's the helmet's reflection, appears to myself to be a light pulse transmission waiting for feedback. It wouldn't be difficult even using today's technology to point a light beam and pulse the same information.
So perhaps we're dealing with their distant relatives who have come looking for them. So best not, in the words of Bazil Fawlty, "mention the war" (nudge nudge, wink wink, know what I mean!?)
It's great sat here in my tinfoil-wear sipping tea and munching on biscuits, but pretty much the pages since this has happened has been speculation - I like that, because we can read about everyone's opinions and ideas - that's what good, hard-core biscuit-inducing science is about. All we need to do now is continue with experiments and see where it leads us - and, if necessary, see what the new ship encounters yeild from "their" perspective...
To me it's like a big "green" neon sign saying look here. I know nothing was found before 2.2 of any significant, apart from cap ships invading the system. I just think another look wouldn't hurt. I'm currently on a passenger mission but I'm definitely going to check it out once I'm back
On a extra note: There are four reports of commanders being interdicted with Unknown Probes. No unusual alien behavior so far.
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IMHO the crashed lobster isn't a ship. It's the weapon (projectile/drone) the actual mothership launched at the Annies and T9. The crime scene shows the victims and the crime weapon/projectile/drone.
Not the assaulter. That's why no cockpit. That's why they crashed all together on the same small area. One single shot and... OMG !
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Kerrash! Do you mean Aliens are suggesting us to read more books? I bet this is a subliminal hint from Drew Wagar cause of his forthcoming book...
I get 3 3 and 6 1 on octal
--- = 0
--| = 1
-|- = 2
-|| = 3
|-- = 4
|-| = 5
||- = 6
||| = 7
I'm pretty sure that, as Sorbicol suggests, the reason the possible-code-pattern appears "inside" the cockpit is that it's a lens flare — it's something that happens because of the way the light interacts with your eye. Just like when you look at a neutron star or white dwarf, the lens flare is masked if the light source goes behind an obstruction, but if you can see the emitter, the flare will spill over anything. This is also why it flips left/right depending on the angle your headlook is at, it's based on the angle between the light source and the centre of the lens (your eye).
That doesn't mean I think it's "just a pretty effect", those marks are very suggestive of a code. It's more that I think that was a quick way to implement it (by re-using the rendering of lens flares but with different artwork).
But, there could also be an "in-character" reason for it... it reminds me strongly of laser diffraction effects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D8cPrEAGyc
In fact, you can encode arbitrary images in laser diffraction effects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPEaYT7b5fA (their choice of images is particularly relevant to E!)
The code itself reminds me of DNA fingerprinting. And also the postal block codes previously mentioned when analysing the ancient ruins. Though british or canadian postal coding schemes seem... a weirdly parochial choice for either aliens or future humans to use. Whereas the GTCA of DNA is at least common to all earth-ancestry lifeforms and is presumably at least known to other sophisticated species who've encountered us.
That doesn't mean I think it's "just a pretty effect", those marks are very suggestive of a code. It's more that I think that was a quick way to implement it (by re-using the rendering of lens flares but with different artwork).
But, there could also be an "in-character" reason for it... it reminds me strongly of laser diffraction effects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D8cPrEAGyc
In fact, you can encode arbitrary images in laser diffraction effects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPEaYT7b5fA (their choice of images is particularly relevant to E
!)The code itself reminds me of DNA fingerprinting. And also the postal block codes previously mentioned when analysing the ancient ruins. Though british or canadian postal coding schemes seem... a weirdly parochial choice for either aliens or future humans to use. Whereas the GTCA of DNA is at least common to all earth-ancestry lifeforms and is presumably at least known to other sophisticated species who've encountered us.
This would link with what I thought was the most interesting theory about the size of the shell - that it was to observe what happened in Merope between 125-150 years ago.
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So how goes the Paul hyperdictions? Paul has seem to disapeard for me and a friend who has done 1001 jumps to the dot. she has not even been dicted by Paul once. (paul is what I named the ship)
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