You can narrow that down a bit, we know that northerners have redder skin, suggesting the planet may have different exposure to its star at either pole. This implies both an axial tilt AND tidal locking in order to increase the exposure and to stop seasonal variation balancing it back out.
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You can narrow that down a bit, we know that northerners have redder skin, suggesting the planet may have different exposure to its star at either pole. This implies both an axial tilt AND tidal locking in order to increase the exposure and to stop seasonal variation balancing it back out.
Don't think that's a thing. I scanned it, got alpha, relogged, got epsilon, did the same thing each time. Third time got Alpha and Epsilon. Fourth time two Alphas.
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That would imply they chose 3 colonization targets that where identical to their home world. But an excellent point to keep an eye out for.
You are right.
CMDRs, forget the combos, let's focus facts like:
- Wave patterns (alpha, beta, gamma, delta and epsilon - greek alphabet for (brain?) wave patterns);
- Item-subject relation (urn-biology, totem-culture, casket-history, tablet-language, orb-technology);
- Site geometry and disposition;
- Texts keywords (two tribes, norht red skin clan migration);
- Obelisks appearance, symbols and sounds;
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How come everyone gets 13 million and DrifterBG got 21 million?
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?p=4997491&viewfull=1#post4997491
I don't get it.
That guy's doing it with a buddy. In PG/Open, something is going on to "activate" more obelisks and allow access to more data. "Everyone" who gets 13m is probably doing it in Solo, from which nobody has reported any additional obelisks activating.
I went to Mobius briefly and saw new obelisks with my own eyes.
That's what I'm trying to play around with. (but adjudication errors destroy some of the larger-profile tests I'm running)
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I lost track of the number of times I crashed out at Obelisks 6&7 last night. It was well into double figures with 9 different combo's. If it didn't immediately fail there, there appeared to be lag and i'd crash out at Obelisk 15. I was going anti clockwise around the ruins.
So, I may just be thinking about this all wrong, but I see a pattern in the "NEW" vs "OLD" obelisk issue. The fact that in open and private we see "NEW" obelisks activating indicates that either scanning each zone, and by zone I mean the areas that don't respond with an error with just the casket or the urn, etc, or scanning all zones correctly with all known combos unlocks more obelisks. Having a relatively small group can confirm this by scanning each zone individually with each one and two set combo that produces a result and having some, but not all, members relog to then artificially inflate the number of "chances" this small group has to scan while keeping the scanned obelisks "activated", so to speak. If it simply a game of keeping the chain of obelisks going, this should offer some insight. Any thoughts?
Hold on... i think i'm missing the totem, but i have the relic. You know, the one that sits on top of the pole. Does the relic not do anything?
I dont know if anyone of you has already noticed, but if you count the 'no message' and 'message' replies from the above spreadsheet it adds up to 101. Its exactly the number of 'messages' you get if you add the total number of 'messages' from History, Technology, Language, Biology and Culture.
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I have been going through the results in the spreadsheet and, basically, they are consistent with findings done by other cmdrs. For me, this means that we are all broadly repeating exactly the same tests, which in long term will prove to be useless.
In view of this findings, I believe we need to stablish a possible number of combinations and sequences to keep testing the observations made by Zenith. I would propose to go by sectors. IE: Take a casket and test every beacon in the red zone (1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 9, 15), the casket + orb and repeat, then casket + tablet.... until all combinations are tested.
I'm still stuck with only 11 points of data. It looks like I'm missing history 10, history 15, and history 14 at the very least just going by that spreadsheet and that's not including whatever other people have gotten elsewhere in the site. The thing is, I'm getting the no-error thing where you scan and just nothing happens.
One thing I'm wondering: maybe order matters somehow? Maybe you need to get two data packets for some bits and they have to be the RIGHT two with nothing in between? It would be ridiculous and it would increase permutations needed to get usable data quite considerably -- especially if it requires the obelisks that aren't active in solo. I kind of think maybe this whole thing wasn't properly thought through because it just doesn't seem like they really intended for any one person or even small groups of people to be able to do it, but just one gigantic data grind and collation for everyone all together with too many unknown variables to necessarily even be able to put it all together within the timeframe given. Actually, all of this bugs me because, once unlocked, the data stream should be the same from each. Meaning you should only need to collect the data and enough of the artifacts, bring them to him, and then he could decrypt everything just by plugging all the combinations into a computer and letting it do all the work over the course of what with future systems would probably be a few milliseconds (but with modern systems still wouldn't take terribly long. Overnight to test all permutations I guess.)
Anyway, this all makes me suspect we're at least missing something fundamental. Probably something ridiculously simple. Something that would more or less give us a huge clue to seriously speed this up and to make it generally more consistent. It also seems especially completely unreasonable for it to not even be possible in solo mode, but to expect people to somehow manage to wake the dead obelisks by accident is also unreasonable. So I think we're looking at this wrong because instead of brute forcing all the combinations and everything, we should be looking for clues. Maybe even something that was there before that just no one caught on and hence them bringing us back here with a huge mission like this.
One thing I'm wondering: maybe order matters somehow? Maybe you need to get two data packets for some bits and they have to be the RIGHT two with nothing in between? It would be ridiculous and it would increase permutations needed to get usable data quite considerably -- especially if it requires the obelisks that aren't active in solo. I kind of think maybe this whole thing wasn't properly thought through because it just doesn't seem like they really intended for any one person or even small groups of people to be able to do it, but just one gigantic data grind and collation for everyone all together with too many unknown variables to necessarily even be able to put it all together within the timeframe given. Actually, all of this bugs me because, once unlocked, the data stream should be the same from each. Meaning you should only need to collect the data and enough of the artifacts, bring them to him, and then he could decrypt everything just by plugging all the combinations into a computer and letting it do all the work over the course of what with future systems would probably be a few milliseconds (but with modern systems still wouldn't take terribly long. Overnight to test all permutations I guess.)
Anyway, this all makes me suspect we're at least missing something fundamental. Probably something ridiculously simple. Something that would more or less give us a huge clue to seriously speed this up and to make it generally more consistent. It also seems especially completely unreasonable for it to not even be possible in solo mode, but to expect people to somehow manage to wake the dead obelisks by accident is also unreasonable. So I think we're looking at this wrong because instead of brute forcing all the combinations and everything, we should be looking for clues. Maybe even something that was there before that just no one caught on and hence them bringing us back here with a huge mission like this.
I wouldn't assume too much from that. That's when they initially spread out from their home world as part of their history -- it could be tens of thousands of years or even millions or billions before the site was initially built when they first spread out. It would be like expecting the first few ships out from Earth to never go anywhere else, and you see the bubble is already at least that big and still growing. But presumably these are the aliens who setup things like the barnacles (definitely doesn't seem to be a Thargoid thing anyway.) That means they moved around through the galaxy a fair bit past the initial exodus. You'll note that the discussions (I think in the technology section?) show that they developed significantly in space technology after that time. To only stay on three worlds (actually, that makes four counting the home world that you're forgetting) would be silly.
Actually, it's a low gravity moon. It couldn't have hosted an atmosphere. Even if it had though, you missed something even more fundamental: this small scale ruin is it. We haven't found huge ruins of cities or access buildings to what would presumably be underground facilities or any of that on this moon. Just one small ruin that has been established to be some sort of communication facility. _IF_ they were in this area, this moon is just a convenient point for them to direct traffic rather than an actual home. (Meaning you'd want to look elsewhere in the same system at the very minimum. But there's no reason to assume it couldn't just be a relay point or something within a network, meaning the actual network could originate at any point potentially very far away from this one.) If some cataclysm had somehow knocked off all atmosphere and destroyed all life and everything else leaving a blasted rock, there still should be at least SOMETHING besides this one ruin (and that this ruin survived as well as it did something that knocked out everything else would be pretty amazing then...) Besides, that gas giant is probably outputting enough radiation to do some massive damage to life even to a planet with a proper atmosphere and magnetosphere.
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Think comm station, space telephone, not base or ship land pad.
In that diagram the top circle looks rather like a key being inserted into a lock. We know the Guardians are keen on glyphs. Has anyone tried placing UPs at the centre of the two mounds?
Be careful Commanders, don't hand out the mission until you really want to get your reward (about 1mil by data recovered), because it happened to me that you can't get anymore scans on the obelisks ruins (with notifications "data xx/xx found" -ish)...
When you hand out the mission, it's OVER.
I've learnt it by myself few minutes ago :/
When you hand out the mission, it's OVER.
I've learnt it by myself few minutes ago :/
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After analyzing frame by frame one of the monliths, I am with the high enough certainty that... they are pentagonal numbers,
the problem is that I am not a mathematician and I do not follow the sequence very well, but I have seen some numbers, vast verify how the sequence is Alpha, beta, gamma, elipson.
Also the marks on the floor are Greek alphabet (possibly archaic), I have seen alpha, iiota kappa and elipson.
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Saludos
Despues de analizar fotograma a fotograma una de las monolitos, estoy con la certeza bastante alta .... que son numeros pentagonales,
elproblema es que no soy matematico y no se muy bien seguir la secuencia, pero he visto algunos numeros, vasta verificar como es la secuencia segun alfa, beta, gamma, elipson.
Tambien las marcas en el suelo son alfabeto griego (posiblemente arcaico ) , he visto alfa, iiota kappa y elipson.
After analyzing frame by frame one of the monliths, I am with the high enough certainty that... they are pentagonal numbers,
the problem is that I am not a mathematician and I do not follow the sequence very well, but I have seen some numbers, vast verify how the sequence is Alpha, beta, gamma, elipson.
Also the marks on the floor are Greek alphabet (possibly archaic), I have seen alpha, iiota kappa and elipson.
ORIGINAL
Saludos
Despues de analizar fotograma a fotograma una de las monolitos, estoy con la certeza bastante alta .... que son numeros pentagonales,
elproblema es que no soy matematico y no se muy bien seguir la secuencia, pero he visto algunos numeros, vasta verificar como es la secuencia segun alfa, beta, gamma, elipson.
Tambien las marcas en el suelo son alfabeto griego (posiblemente arcaico ) , he visto alfa, iiota kappa y elipson.
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