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Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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I watched most of it, no huge breakthroughs but they did determine that relogging from different CMDRs even with other ones online/winged does change which obelisks are active within the groups, often activating new ones, weren't able to find a pattern yet though. Lots of relog grinding
Yes, like 3 griefing incidents proven results in ALL credits confiscated, alternatively reset of player account.
The pillars and relics are still bugging me, they don't currently seem to serve a purpose. Do these symbols found on the three sides of the pillars/beacons mean anything? Surely someone's figured these out by now, they're certainly not hard to see and record unlike the gibberish appearing on the obelisks.
https://abload.de/img/b1fxs6m.jpg
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You mean the image in the UP spectrogram? It doesn't look anything like the ruins map to me. Yes, they've both got elements at an approximately 50 degree angle to each other, and they've both got a circular element, but that's about where the similarity ends. Those very simple structures are way too common to say it can't be coincidental. On the other hand, you've got the organic look of the UP vs the very angular and manufactured look of the ruins. You've got the constant triangle motif of the ruins which is not present in the spectrogram or the UP itself. You've got the fact the UP is found only in a relatively small region of space well away from the ruins.
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This might be a dumb question, but has the site changed?
When I first arrived the area marked as A here http://imgur.com/a/27jPg
Didn't have any obelisks as per the image below
But now in addition to the three edge markers there is the Obelisk Cluster
When did that happen
When I first arrived the area marked as A here http://imgur.com/a/27jPg
Didn't have any obelisks as per the image below
But now in addition to the three edge markers there is the Obelisk Cluster
When did that happen
Yup. Ruin site changed in the patch. Was different in Beta too.
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"Working as intended" does not mean it is soluble in Solo; they might intend it to be solved only in Private/Open by a group of Cmdrs!
After the patch before the newest one iirc
Glad I am not going crazy
Could it be that some obelisks can only be lit up if more than 2 ancient objects are presented to it by two or more CMDRs?
Three different patterns might be related to the three different ruins' locations.
Different Sets of Active Obelisks Pt 2
Greetings again, fellow CMDRs.
Yesterday I posted talking about the different sets of obelisks that light up in the Open (and PG?) servers, and linked an image of my annotations. I am not sure if anyone has been keeping track of this, but I've been trying to map the set of lit obelisks in every instance that I log into.
A few observations:
I am still not sure what is causing different obelisks to activate, but it appears that every group or bank of obelisks changes simultaneously. In other words, there are always 15 active obelisks in the ruins, but they're not always the same obelisks.
I did notice something interesting when I logged into Open a little bit ago. For some reason I got put into an instance that happened to be virtually empty. I believe a CMDR had been there until a little after I logged in. I spent a good while alone exploring the ruins. The lit obelisks were different from the "standard" set found in Solo, so I took the opportunity to drive around and annotate my map (which I'll link in a little bit). I went around the map twice trying to make sure they didn't change or anything before I actually began scanning them with a Casket+Orb pair in my cargo hold.
As I arrived at Zone G another CMDR arrived at the Ruins (shoutout to CMDR OBIJ3FF) and I noticed that the active obelisk configuration reset into the standard configuration. I tried scanning every remaining obelisk to see if their configuration would change, but they remained like that. A few of the obelisks I had scanned reactivated while CMDR OBIJ3FF was there, but he logged off shortly and I stayed alone in that instance. For some reason I remained alone for an oddly long time (until I logged off a few minutes ago), and I noticed that none of the obelisks I scanned after the CMDR left would reactivate. As long as it was just me, the scanned obelisks would remain inactive. Furthermore, the ones I had scanned previously that had reactivated would now output the "already scanned" message if I attempted to scan. I tried logging out and back in, but apparently got into the same empty instance with the standard set of obelisks.
Anyhow, onwards to the images. As I tried to annotate one of the maps yesterday I figured I needed a bit more resolution in order to zoom in freely and actually be able to write. I took a few images last night and stitched them together today, fixed a couple of artifacts, cleaned up some shadows that could cause confusion, and adjusted the brightness and contrast a bit. These images are fairly big in size (4668 x 3572 px), so I hope you guys can use them for more detailed stuff if needed:
NOTE In case you miss it, there is a link to download a full quality PNG (~13MB in size), since imgur doesn't really like large-sized images and its compression introduces a lot of artifacts into the final image. Also, excuse the AspX in the image (it is not mine). Another CMDR parked there as I was taking the images yesterday, and the shadow made it very hard to remove in post. I decided to leave it since it doesn't really interfere with anything important.
The next image contains color-coded annotations for the position of the active obelisks in that instance. Since the obelisk numbering system has changed a few times in the last day or two, I've been numbering the obelisk sets now with roman numerals (previously letters, but that would make it confusing given the new groups), with Set I being the "standard" set that you encounter in Solo play. For now I've been able to map four additional sets, which account for at least 62 different obelisks getting lit at one point or another. Each set always has 15 lit obelisks, but as I mapped IV and V, I noticed that some active obelisks overlap between sets. This is very noticeable in Group B where the same obelisk was lit for three different sets, and then in Group G where there are multiple overlapping obelisks.
NOTE I used an earlier version of the final stitched map to write on, so it is a little darker and still has some shadows that may cause confusion. There is also a bright dot in the lower part of Group E, which was an Ancient Relic someone dropped here as I took the images. I removed it for the final version of the image.
Also keep in mind that there are some obelisk pairs (diamond-shaped) that make it a bit harder to mark. To avoid confusion I decided to draw the dots on top of one another every time the same obelisk is lit in different sets. Dots that are side-by-side indicate two different obelisks of one pair.
I'll eventually find the time to make a proper digital version of this. For now I'll keep doing it by hand since it is both faster and more practical while I am driving around.
If anyone else wants to help with this, feel free to use these images. I think we might notice some sort of pattern forming if we keep track of the obelisks that light up. They might be lighting up randomly within the groups, which would make this effort moot, but until we actually figure out how to trigger obelisk activation, I think it is important to keep track of every detail.
Greetings again, fellow CMDRs.
Yesterday I posted talking about the different sets of obelisks that light up in the Open (and PG?) servers, and linked an image of my annotations. I am not sure if anyone has been keeping track of this, but I've been trying to map the set of lit obelisks in every instance that I log into.
A few observations:
I am still not sure what is causing different obelisks to activate, but it appears that every group or bank of obelisks changes simultaneously. In other words, there are always 15 active obelisks in the ruins, but they're not always the same obelisks.
I did notice something interesting when I logged into Open a little bit ago. For some reason I got put into an instance that happened to be virtually empty. I believe a CMDR had been there until a little after I logged in. I spent a good while alone exploring the ruins. The lit obelisks were different from the "standard" set found in Solo, so I took the opportunity to drive around and annotate my map (which I'll link in a little bit). I went around the map twice trying to make sure they didn't change or anything before I actually began scanning them with a Casket+Orb pair in my cargo hold.
As I arrived at Zone G another CMDR arrived at the Ruins (shoutout to CMDR OBIJ3FF) and I noticed that the active obelisk configuration reset into the standard configuration. I tried scanning every remaining obelisk to see if their configuration would change, but they remained like that. A few of the obelisks I had scanned reactivated while CMDR OBIJ3FF was there, but he logged off shortly and I stayed alone in that instance. For some reason I remained alone for an oddly long time (until I logged off a few minutes ago), and I noticed that none of the obelisks I scanned after the CMDR left would reactivate. As long as it was just me, the scanned obelisks would remain inactive. Furthermore, the ones I had scanned previously that had reactivated would now output the "already scanned" message if I attempted to scan. I tried logging out and back in, but apparently got into the same empty instance with the standard set of obelisks.
Anyhow, onwards to the images. As I tried to annotate one of the maps yesterday I figured I needed a bit more resolution in order to zoom in freely and actually be able to write. I took a few images last night and stitched them together today, fixed a couple of artifacts, cleaned up some shadows that could cause confusion, and adjusted the brightness and contrast a bit. These images are fairly big in size (4668 x 3572 px), so I hope you guys can use them for more detailed stuff if needed:
NOTE In case you miss it, there is a link to download a full quality PNG (~13MB in size), since imgur doesn't really like large-sized images and its compression introduces a lot of artifacts into the final image. Also, excuse the AspX in the image (it is not mine). Another CMDR parked there as I was taking the images yesterday, and the shadow made it very hard to remove in post. I decided to leave it since it doesn't really interfere with anything important.
The next image contains color-coded annotations for the position of the active obelisks in that instance. Since the obelisk numbering system has changed a few times in the last day or two, I've been numbering the obelisk sets now with roman numerals (previously letters, but that would make it confusing given the new groups), with Set I being the "standard" set that you encounter in Solo play. For now I've been able to map four additional sets, which account for at least 62 different obelisks getting lit at one point or another. Each set always has 15 lit obelisks, but as I mapped IV and V, I noticed that some active obelisks overlap between sets. This is very noticeable in Group B where the same obelisk was lit for three different sets, and then in Group G where there are multiple overlapping obelisks.
NOTE I used an earlier version of the final stitched map to write on, so it is a little darker and still has some shadows that may cause confusion. There is also a bright dot in the lower part of Group E, which was an Ancient Relic someone dropped here as I took the images. I removed it for the final version of the image.
Also keep in mind that there are some obelisk pairs (diamond-shaped) that make it a bit harder to mark. To avoid confusion I decided to draw the dots on top of one another every time the same obelisk is lit in different sets. Dots that are side-by-side indicate two different obelisks of one pair.
I'll eventually find the time to make a proper digital version of this. For now I'll keep doing it by hand since it is both faster and more practical while I am driving around.
If anyone else wants to help with this, feel free to use these images. I think we might notice some sort of pattern forming if we keep track of the obelisks that light up. They might be lighting up randomly within the groups, which would make this effort moot, but until we actually figure out how to trigger obelisk activation, I think it is important to keep track of every detail.
Really? Awesome!
That would then mean that 3 cmdrs in 3 SRVs each carrying 2 different items would then have all the 6 items to go around scanning all the obelisks
I have seen them light up in opposing sides in three instances. I made a longer post (#12962, in this page) with my observations and my maps.
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Hmm good to know. I'll update it.
Does the scanner location cahnge too, I could swear they hadnt changed in being there since monday.
Do you have screenshots of them in diff orientations?
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I wonder if anyone has tried a successful scan of the standard set of obelisks, but with two SRVs each carrying only one required object, and being present at the same time and scanning simultaneously.
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