Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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What we did is called "science by accident, but we're not able to do it again" :D
We'll hopefully try it again today, and if nothing else, I will try it in Solo to see what happens. We (aka Panzertard) will report on the findings ;)

There's no accident that I told you which combination to use :)
However, not been able to observe the results of it yet, yesterday we did.

Now we just need to repeat with either ourselves - but our 'message & trigger' may have been consumed in our experiment.
Hence why we may need new people for the same triggers.
 
Has anyone decoded the glyphs at the bottom of the beacons yet? Couldn't find anything about that yet.

I don't recall reading about anyone decoding the glyphs... they are, however, probably very important... So knock yourself out trying to understand them :p I tried, and couldn't
 
Okay, I'm having a really bad tinfoil moment, but there are various structures and non-natural objects that are all lining up with the Eafots Sector, the 1st Conflux Beacon and the Hawkin's Gap one. I doubt it's happened yet given the time, but has anyone thought about scanning here after having some of those other data scans?
 
New theory to the Ruin Puzzle
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Each of those groupings contains 2 Obelisks. Except for H, we'll get back to that one. These pairs are connected by geometries. When you scan one of the pairs, it gives you the data related to the other one. As in the objects needed to achieve the correct combination. When the puzzle sets up, it randomizes what combinations of objects are needed to get a message back. It also randomizes what the data types mean. Every new instance attributes five of the objects with Alpha, Beta, Delta, Gamma, Epsilon. Which means one wont work at all. You scan an obelisk and get Gamma, Epsilon. The sister obelisk needs the objects that correspond to that. That's why sometimes you get 1, and sometimes you get 2 data. Some obelisks only need 1 object, others 2. The puzzle then becomes a lot like an old school rogue like. The game is finding out which objects the data points to fast enough to unlock the sister obelisks. Use up all your tries and the instance (puzzle) needs to be reset.

Now, lets get back to group H with its lonely obelisk. Its been shown that a correct combination on an obelisks makes new ones show up. If the puzzle is done correctly, more obelisks start appearing. Creating a chain of scans and combinations. Eventually one will appear in group H and be a sister of the original.

So you are saying at the start the instance will assign a letter to 5 of the 6 artefacts, eg:
Casket - Alpha
Orb - Beta
Tablet - Delta
Totem - Gamma
Urn - Epsilon

( note: relic is not assigned a value in my example )

So if take a Casket and an Urn to G18 and scan it, I get back Delta / Delta ( I just did this in my own PG and that's what I got )
So at this point I don't know what item 'Delta' actually is ( or what the Casket and Urn are ) ?
 
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So you are saying at the start the instance will assign a letter to 5 of the six artefacts, eg:
Casket - Alpha
Orb - Beta
Tablet - Delta
Totem - Gamma
Urn - Epsilon

( note: relic is not assigned a value in my example )

So if take a Casket and an Urn to G18 and scan it, I get back Delta / Delta ( I just did this in my own PG and that's what I got )
So at this point I don't know what item 'Delta' actually is ( or what the Casket and Urn are ) ?

Right, but G17 might be looking for Delta-Delta in your SRV, since G has a base object of Casket, try scanning G17 with 2 caskets in inventory.
 
I don't recall reading about anyone decoding the glyphs... they are, however, probably very important... So knock yourself out trying to understand them :p I tried, and couldn't

Some of them are like reverse image of each other.
Or like a story (anti-clockwise) of the ship (big triangle) that was crash, repaired till it was able to start again and then "landed" or crashed again. [wacky]

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Also it is worth to mention that second (upper) row can look similar to metal patterns on earth in ruins. But I haven't compare it closely so it might be only an illusion.
 
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Given the Mobius PG is full, how does one join Canonn? or are there other groups friendly CMDRs here would advise/advertise/accept?
 
New theory to the Ruin Puzzle

The game is finding out which objects the data points to fast enough to unlock the sister obelisks. Use up all your tries and the instance (puzzle) needs to be reset.

Nice one CMDR! Good old SRV run around the base. D1 and D2 are main data center for the rest of the network.
So first step - drive fast left and right. How long are obelisks active, again?
 
So you are saying at the start the instance will assign a letter to 5 of the 6 artefacts, eg:
Casket - Alpha
Orb - Beta
Tablet - Delta
Totem - Gamma
Urn - Epsilon

( note: relic is not assigned a value in my example )

So if take a Casket and an Urn to G18 and scan it, I get back Delta / Delta ( I just did this in my own PG and that's what I got )
So at this point I don't know what item 'Delta' actually is ( or what the Casket and Urn are ) ?

As far as I can tell the mechanic for the data gained hasn't changed from v1 of the ruins - random results back with no real use for it.
 
Right, but G17 might be looking for Delta-Delta in your SRV, since G has a base object of Casket, try scanning G17 with 2 caskets in inventory.

Okay, so scanning G17 with C + C I got Alpha / Epsilon - no new obelisk are light up in the G area. So the G 1-18 block is now dead, G19-36 has the normal 2 lite up.
 
Okay, so scanning G17 with C + C I got Alpha / Epsilon - no new obelisk are light up in the G area. So the G 1-18 block is now dead, G19-36 has the normal 2 lite up.

Take a stroll around all the other obelisks and see if anything non standard happened. Hopefully, the A/E is for some other obelisks in the fields.
 
Right, but G17 might be looking for Delta-Delta in your SRV, since G has a base object of Casket, try scanning G17 with 2 caskets in inventory.

I am really liking this idea,

you know obelisk A need object x and y, and you scan it with x and y , it gives you the letter data, one or two, those could serve as hints towards the combination needed for the next unlocked obelisk. Logging in and giving this thing testrun.

The letter data you get seems randomized each instance, this might be to throw us off, so the combinations for the next step is random and different for every instance. The first step seems fixed, and gives us a starting point.

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Okay, so scanning G17 with C + C I got Alpha / Epsilon - no new obelisk are light up in the G area. So the G 1-18 block is now dead, G19-36 has the normal 2 lite up.

IS this in solo or pg?
 
Given the Mobius PG is full, how does one join Canonn? or are there other groups friendly CMDRs here would advise/advertise/accept?

I don´t know too much about the different groups, but I joined the Paladin Consortium a short while ago, because it seemed like a group with good standards and ideals. People there have been super friendly. Always willing to help out! Big recommendation! Add me if you plan on joining that group. Always interested in conducting some research. Hopefully you´ll get some more answers here, but when I tried to write on this forum a couple of weeks ago nobody seemed to have time to answer me. The mystery was blocking their view...

o7 Cmdr
 
My measurements weren't spherical, they were SRV to SRV done in Mobius group with a few others.

I'll be back to the ruins tonight after work to take new measurements and see if any distances have changed, purely out of curiosity. :cool:

Ah, perhaps I haven't explained myself properly! SRV to SRV is what I'd understood it to be. What I mean is the way I understand it, doing SRV to SRV would give you the distance on a direct straight line between the two (as if you had a string between the two, pulled it taut and measured that). Distances between ships must work like this so I'm assuming SRV distances too. Distances between systems must work the same too. So it's effectively a radius that's being measured. To define the vector you'd need the distance and two angles. That's what I mean by Spherical. I x,y,z/cartesian there'd be 3 distances, one per plane.

I've actually always felt this was a strong point to support your theory (always been a fan of it btw! :) ). If, for example it was the y-plane distance you'd measured between the large platform and the top of the peak that's (just-off) North of it and that's what had corresponded to the distance to Sol then that wouldn't have really stood up. But as the distances are both measured in the same co-ordinate system then it stands up a lot more to scrutiny. (I can't remember the exact terminology you'd used for the various parts of the site, so apologies if that's a bit of a garbled description! I figure you'll know which parts I mean though from the context! :) )

Anyway, the whole point of this was whether it's possible to convert it all into cartesian co-ordinates as that would A. then provide a further test for your theory (whether the relative x,y,z's of the system and Sol correspond to the relative x,y,z's of the large platform and north peak); and if that test passes it would then B. allow you to identify the x,y,z's of all the other points in the galaxy which would correspond to other features in the ruins.

Sorry, if this has already been covered by the way, I did try to follow your theory quite closely, but well, I think everyone knows what it's like trying to keep track of everything that goes on in the threads! :D
 
After shooting it, can the glyphs still be observed?

Yes but that glow still remains. 1 side doesn't have the glow but it may be different on each side.
Am trying to get some Clean pictures of it now

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I am really liking this idea,

you know obelisk A need object x and y, and you scan it with x and y , it gives you the letter data, one or two, those could serve as hints towards the combination needed for the next unlocked obelisk. Logging in and giving this thing testrun.

The letter data you get seems randomized each instance, this might be to throw us off, so the combinations for the next step is random and different for every instance. The first step seems fixed, and gives us a starting point.

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IS this in solo or pg?

I'm in my own PG for this.

Just took C + U to E26 and got Gamme / Beta
Interesting the next obelisk in E that's lite is E34 but in the spreadsheet I'm look at no one found the correct combo!
 
I'd like to take detailed pics of all the obelisk clusters, with the default set of obelisks glowing, like this pic:
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I just need a bit help there, one or two CMDRs who are not too impatient.
Might get some shots of 'non-standard' activations too, if we're lucky.

Thanks to the fellow who helped me a few hours ago! [up]
 
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