No observable patterns/codes in the spectrogram analysis.
Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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No observable patterns/codes in the spectrogram analysis.
Did a little testing with a private group of 6 (many thanks to Tesla X for organizing the group and to Patey, Gilgamesh, Mr Citizen and Vaperton for participating). Here are my observations:
-- Those that logged into the server first noticed that subsequent logons triggered changes in which obelisks were switched on. Not realizing that was significant at the time, we did not attempt to quantify the phenomenon.
-- Once we had emptied our SRV cargo bays, we did a survey of the obelisks; only the ones available in solo play were toggled on.
-- We painstakingly scanned one obelisk at a time; the other obelisks did not toggle on or off in response.
-- Once all of the obelisks had been scanned, someone relogged. All of the default obelisks turned back on.
-- Everyone put two artifacts in their SRV cargo bays. We split ourselves up among the obelisk blocks. At several of the blocks, including A, C and E, there were 2-3 additional obelisks illuminated.
-- We converged on one block (C in this case) and an additional obelisk in that block switched on. We then had one commander move away from the block and that additional obelisk switched off.
Based on these observations, my theory about obelisk/artifact interaction is thus:
1) Dark obelisks are dark because they require power. The amount of power required to activate each obelisk is variable.
2) Artifacts radiate power to the obelisks when they are in your SRV's cargo hold. The amount of power transmitted is inversely related to your distance from an obelisk.
-- Those that logged into the server first noticed that subsequent logons triggered changes in which obelisks were switched on. Not realizing that was significant at the time, we did not attempt to quantify the phenomenon.
-- Once we had emptied our SRV cargo bays, we did a survey of the obelisks; only the ones available in solo play were toggled on.
-- We painstakingly scanned one obelisk at a time; the other obelisks did not toggle on or off in response.
-- Once all of the obelisks had been scanned, someone relogged. All of the default obelisks turned back on.
-- Everyone put two artifacts in their SRV cargo bays. We split ourselves up among the obelisk blocks. At several of the blocks, including A, C and E, there were 2-3 additional obelisks illuminated.
-- We converged on one block (C in this case) and an additional obelisk in that block switched on. We then had one commander move away from the block and that additional obelisk switched off.
Based on these observations, my theory about obelisk/artifact interaction is thus:
1) Dark obelisks are dark because they require power. The amount of power required to activate each obelisk is variable.
2) Artifacts radiate power to the obelisks when they are in your SRV's cargo hold. The amount of power transmitted is inversely related to your distance from an obelisk.
Just run back to Ram Tan and he will provide you with your bonus.
Thanks,
CMDR Ginger Huntsman
I'm not entirely sure I've understood you correctly or vice-versa. I'm talking about the problem where you see that you've received a message but it deletes itself immediately after, not about just not getting a message.
I had seen that others had this problem but it only happened to me part way after a lot of scans. The only thing that I could see that was different was that the moon was up. I tried exiting to menu and restarting, I tried exiting to desktop but I still had the problem. I stopped for an hour or two and then went back to it and the problem had stopped. Again the only thing visibly different was that the moon wasn't up.
It's probably just a bug but on the other hand maybe it isn't. The moon is definitely linked to the site if only in terms of alignments. Maybe there is something more to it.
Just about finished souping up my Clipper and then I'm going to be heading back out with about 8 SRVs to deal with the inevitable griefing. If I can I will test whether what I experienced can be replicated.
Wow, that is a significant discovery. Well done.
If that's the case then wouldn't leaving artifacts near the obelisks activate them? And this should be observable in solo mode.
I have observed the artifacts "turning on" with proximity to the SRV and start to emit light. Proximity does seem to activate their power source.
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I'm on my way to test this quickly. Standby.
Just bringing up Frawd's post from ages ago in case it's of use to anyone as it's got the data on the moons' orbital periods and other orbital mechanics.
Perhaps objects in your cargo hold get an energy boost from your SRV?
The obelisks activate with an empty cargo hold too. At least the default ones.
For anyone curious about the number of data, there apears to be a number 36 going around, I thought you guys should know, I'm upto a total of 38 million cr, in my math, 1,000,000,000 per data means 38 data, I'm not saying that's the actual number of data to collect, I'm saying I've got more than 36.
Not been down and about due to my personal problems, however, I've been flying around. I continue to get folks failure messages, my hold doesn't have any relics, however I have an urn and a casket in my SRV, and that is on my ship. Are the failures I'm seening not actually CMDRs on the ground, but *mine*, on their scan attempts?
Time for a refresh.
For those of you asking and for those of you that are new to the ancient ruins puzzle, here is my spreadsheet where I am tracking and compiling the community's progress:
https://goo.gl/OVldYU
There are other CMDRs that have done great work as well to help structure research and track theory progress. Here are their spreadsheets:
https://goo.gl/UIdnPF
https://goo.gl/iP5m6S
Hope this helps all of us get to the truth of what is going on at the Ancient Ruins site!
o7,
CMDR GingerHuntsman
For those of you asking and for those of you that are new to the ancient ruins puzzle, here is my spreadsheet where I am tracking and compiling the community's progress:
https://goo.gl/OVldYU
There are other CMDRs that have done great work as well to help structure research and track theory progress. Here are their spreadsheets:
https://goo.gl/UIdnPF
https://goo.gl/iP5m6S
Hope this helps all of us get to the truth of what is going on at the Ancient Ruins site!
o7,
CMDR GingerHuntsman
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Theory on Alien Ruins at Synuefe XR-H D11-102 1B
My theory is goes like this:
It's currently bugged, sadly. So we may have to wait after a patch to fully try this.
There are more than 15 obelisk that activate. On estimations of the reward pool of 100Million I suspect there are 100 obelisks that activate at certain times.
Certain obelisks activate at certain times based on what I believe to be the Orbital Period, location of the planet to it's star, and rotation, the time of day (day and night).
The reason I believe this is well, a transmission tower must be pointed in the right direction to recive a signal. This would also account for the time provided to fully complete the mission of at least 1 month.
I do not know if the Orbit around the system Star that is jumped into is its star or the dead star with the rings around it. Nor do I know how long it takes for a planet to Orbit around its star. With the obelisks being bugged there is no way to fully test this if you ask me.
GLHF Good Huntinng.
P.S This theory seems to be very likely to be confirmed. I noticed with some of the maps online their active locations weren't there.
My theory is goes like this:
It's currently bugged, sadly. So we may have to wait after a patch to fully try this.
There are more than 15 obelisk that activate. On estimations of the reward pool of 100Million I suspect there are 100 obelisks that activate at certain times.
Certain obelisks activate at certain times based on what I believe to be the Orbital Period, location of the planet to it's star, and rotation, the time of day (day and night).
The reason I believe this is well, a transmission tower must be pointed in the right direction to recive a signal. This would also account for the time provided to fully complete the mission of at least 1 month.
I do not know if the Orbit around the system Star that is jumped into is its star or the dead star with the rings around it. Nor do I know how long it takes for a planet to Orbit around its star. With the obelisks being bugged there is no way to fully test this if you ask me.
GLHF Good Huntinng.
P.S This theory seems to be very likely to be confirmed. I noticed with some of the maps online their active locations weren't there.
Yap, did some checks on the Audio a few days ago... i wouldnt say that there is nothing though.
Iam quite sure that there is a hidden "hello" in the sound right before a ship get pulled out of hyperspace:
https://soundcloud.com/user-833835818/alien-hello (see description)
You even can "see" where it is in the audio on spectro and/or filter it out quiet more via high/low pass filtering.
Also there is some signal im not sure why it is there (you need to amplify quiet a bit to can hear it and even than its just a "fiiiieeeppp" due to the high frequency) that looks a bit odd (think it was at -80% speed):
Dont get me wrong here, i totally didnt want to say it have to mean something or that someone have to investigate it further (especially the second one) also im far away from being a audioengineer so its might just something i produced due editing/filtering (especially the second one ^^) infact im quite sure it is (at most) a gimmick the Audiodude put in there
So in conclusion: Nothing to see here, go ahead for some real sience Cmdrs
I thought there was 100 (1 mil per successful scan) although there should be 101 according to the "of" numbers (num/of).
I wonder is there any flux in your SRV power when close to these features? Checking.
The 100 million is a bonus for completing the mission, in addition to the 1 million / data.
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