Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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So here is another tin-foil hat theory. Do we have any good data that the other sites are NOT on the current planet? I have two reasons.

1) when dropping from super-cruise, I noted about 3 purple circles on the radar before entering glide and being to low.
2) from a game code / technical point of view, I would assume that the game loads data on the computer/xbox related to the location where you are. IF the other sites were nearby, it would be reasonable to assume that the code that drives the entire puzzle would all be loaded, and would explain the "bleed through" that allows more scans to be shown. IF the other sites were far away, then there would be no need to load that data into active memory, and there would be no bleed through.

IF planet has been searched, then i'm barking up the wrong tree.

JJ

I was also having that impression that ruins could be somewhere nearby, and the whole scan mechanic was loaded into one big instance, hence the bleed. I described my observations maybe a dozen page back, hard to keep up with speed of that thread. But anyhow, it is good that some1 else notices it. At the very least we might have our hats made of same tinfoil.

as I received various PM regarding graphic settings for "combing the desert"
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as U can see, even during night time U can spot the ruins from height 5km and a lateral distance of 0,5° lattitude - U need hawk eyes though :), thats why I still recommend to map the dusk/dawn area, as U get nice long shadows which should help identify possible geometric structures more easily. If we get cdr-groups doing parallel in dusk/dawn area, within 3.5 days we should have been able to map the whole potatoe (using the rotation of -6.9d)....

Tried your settings, and tbh it did not made much difference, at least on my end.
 
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-31.7877 +128.9711 is also a blank.

Anyone got any other ideas of where to search?

(Not a dig at you) - do we really want a whole list of 'not here' posts? Even in a spreadsheet unless ppl are going to co-ordinate I think there is little point - what do others think.

Now if there was a spreadsheet to report into, maybe that could be useful (though really we'd want a spherical spreadsheet :) ).
 
Until now, nothing indicates that the sites are related to the arks.

Then this narrows it to first option which is communication array/relay. Therefore I believe we are agree on this one.

Which will be pointing towards 3-4 sites layout (sphere coverage) on planet even more. And for that the most important is planet size (radius) to estimate how far away are other ruins (if any). Unless it is a part of system wide "antenna" not a simple "all direction one-planet antenna"

Planet one:
pros: simpler layout, less variables
cons: moon or dwarf blocking some directions.

System-wide one:
pros: no blockers
cons: very complicated layout pattern on multiple bodies.
actually, slowly I am convinced that this is an outpost too, reasons:
- from current understanding FTL communication only may be achieved (although current science tells different) by quantum interlock technology,
hence the 4 beacons (with their relics beeing the canister for the interlocked quantuum medium) hint to be the com-devices with Home-world plus 3 arches destinations, as the com-channel is uniquely paired.
- if for on-planet comms "traditional" radio-signal is used we would be talking about thousands of relay-sites, as this body has no atmosphere which could bend/reflect long-waves and transmission-radius would be limited to the horizon of sender, in this case (estimated) a few kilometers, as the bodies radius is quite small and the beacons just reach a few dozend meters heigth.
 
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(Not a dig at you) - do we really want a whole list of 'not here' posts? Even in a spreadsheet unless ppl are going to co-ordinate I think there is little point - what do others think.

Now if there was a spreadsheet to report into, maybe that could be useful (though really we'd want a spherical spreadsheet :) ).

I think we need a bearing verified. If someone checks bearing 0, we must write down who did and how much time and distance he flew.

P.S.: "Operation Comb the Desert" hahahaha

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actually, slowly I am convinced that this is an outpost too, reasons:
- from current understanding FTL communication only may be achieved (although current science tells different) by quantum interlock technology,
hence the 4 beacons (with their relics beeing the canister for the interlocked quantuum medium) hint to be the com-devices with Home-world plus 3 arches destinations, as the com-channel is uniquely paired.
- if for on-planet comms "traditional" radio-signal is used we would be talking about thousands of relay-sites, as this body has no atmosphere which could bend/reflect long-waves and transmission-radius would be limited to the horizon of sender, in this case (estimated) a few kilometers, as the bodies radius is quite small and the beacons just reach a few dozend meters heigth.

Sum that with the fact that Horizons only allow us to land on planets without atmosphere, makes a better picture of the scenario.

The risen beacon combinations could be a "dialing system".
 
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Back to the ruins glyps interpretation, I present you two hypothesis:

http://i.imgur.com/wmEmuEh.jpg

EDIT: Sorry for the TYPO

As good a theory as any. Here are my thoughts along those lines
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I think we need a bearing verified. If someone checks bearing 0, we must write down who did and how much time and distance he flew.

I agree the data needs to be collated, but there have been posts just checking coordinate pairs, not even bearings. There are at least limited bearings, but 'quite a few'* coordinate pairs. And no-one** is going to read them all

* bajillions
** an estimate :)

Anyway, just an opinion! (Could we even use a tab in your spreadsheet to coordinate bearings?)
 
So your starter for 10 points, I set of facing bearing 249 in my Anaconda that does 247 speed how long till I circumnavigate back to the start point of the Ruins ?

The thing is you will never return to the ruins if you stay on that bearing. As you travel the planet, your bearing is taken from North, so in fact you will probably spiral all the way down to the south pole.

Check out this Wiki image. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bearing_(navigation)#/media/File:Bearing_and_azimuth_along_the_geodesic.png

You can recalculate your bearing every few minutes (although this will be very tedious), or the only reliable way to map the planet is to travel 2-4km north or south and travel at a heading of 90 or 180.

I'll be online tonight assisting with the mapping.
 
I'm currently trying to head out from the ruins in various 30° angles compared to the northern bit of the ruins (65°). It's a blind shot, but I've not much better to do. The angles are of course a bit approximate due to the original reference picture having a slight perspective effect to it. Currently trying a 35° angle, which is heading to the direction H cluster seems to point at.
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And I did waste my time checking if the moon and the main planet align compared to the ruins, but it only works at a certain time of their rotation and amounts to absolutely nothing. Looked neat for a little bit though.
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I agree the data needs to be collated, but there have been posts just checking coordinate pairs, not even bearings. There are at least limited bearings, but 'quite a few'* coordinate pairs. And no-one** is going to read them all

* bajillions
** an estimate :)

Anyway, just an opinion! (Could we even use a tab in your spreadsheet to coordinate bearings?)

I was just checking off the simple solutions first. Sorry for bothering.
 
I agree the data needs to be collated, but there have been posts just checking coordinate pairs, not even bearings. There are at least limited bearings, but 'quite a few'* coordinate pairs. And no-one** is going to read them all

* bajillions
** an estimate :)

Anyway, just an opinion! (Could we even use a tab in your spreadsheet to coordinate bearings?)

The sheet is free to anyone willing to edit it so we can share the information with everyone.


I can't create the tab because I don't remember what information ED gives us in addition to "the real" world flight time. If someone can create a tab with bearing (from ruins), altitude, end coords and other information, I will be glad to do my own recon flight to the "comb the desert" operation when I arrive at home later today :)
 
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I'm currently trying to head out from the ruins in various 30° angles compared to the northern bit of the ruins (65°). It's a blind shot, but I've not much better to do. The angles are of course a bit approximate due to the original reference picture having a slight perspective effect to it. Currently trying a 35° angle, which is heading to the direction H cluster seems to point at.


And I did waste my time checking if the moon and the main planet align compared to the ruins, but it only works at a certain time of their rotation and amounts to absolutely nothing. Looked neat for a little bit though.


Reading your post have striken me. If Guardians were so much into geometry, maybe they could have alined their ruins along multiple axis of exact angles (0,30,45,60,90)? Did anyone tried to test that avenue of approach?

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Posted similar theory yersterday with inserted tetrahedron. Still need to translate it into coordinates to allow ppl for search.
 
What's the orbital period of the moon? It appears to rise,go directly over & set at viewpoints on the ruins ( from reading through the thread posts). Has anyone followed the setting moon around the planet?
 
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