I turned in my mission to get the money, but then wasn't able to take it again. I've tried relogging, and in both solo/open. I have been able to sign up to the CG and hand in for that, but no mission from Ram Tah.
Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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I turned in my mission to get the money, but then wasn't able to take it again. I've tried relogging, and in both solo/open. I have been able to sign up to the CG and hand in for that, but no mission from Ram Tah.
Hi All,
This is probably nothing, but for the last 3 days I've been struggling to find a way to accurately determine Lat/Long co-ords on a sphere of known radius (1,122km for the Ruins planet) from a starting point and a bearing - because I had a theory... It also ties into the discussions above nicely, but my thought was this...
The monoliths and triangles lead me to believe the builders of the ruins (not confirmed as the Guardians yet) really like the number 3 - and it suddenly dawned on me that on a sphere you can easily have a triangle where all the internal angles are 90 degrees!
Think of our own dear planet - slice a globe through the equator. Take another slice perpendicular to that (e.g. through the Greenwich meridian, or 0 degrees longtitude), then another slice perpendicular again. You end up with something like a quarter slice of one hemisphere - and the internal angles are all 90 degrees!.
Now, what if the ruins are on one corner, it should be easy to calculate where the other two corners are... except it wasn't that easy. In the past two days I've learnt more about the HAversine formula, and Arctangents / radians and everything else I forgot many years ago!
Anyway - I calculated the coordinates, given the bearing of 65 degrees using the most prominent ridge in the ruins (surely a pointer of some sort) and worked out the four possible points exactly one quarter of the circumference away from the ruins aligned to 65 degrees (and 155, 245, 335) and came up with the following co-ordinates:
+21.07 / -52.66
-50.45 / +09.51
-21.07 / -232.66
+50.45 / -170.48
Thinking I only need to check 3 of these, I've checked the first two, but couldn't find anything there, and its currently dark (really dark) in the last one.
However, I'm not so sure my calculations are correct - that third longtitude looks wrong to me (surely max of -180??)
Can someone check my working?
Radius of 1122 gives a Circumference of 7049.73, so one quarter circumference is 1762.43
Known Lat1 and Lon1 cords, and using this formula to find Lat2 and Lon2:
Lat2=ASIN(SIN(LAT1)*COS(distance/Radius)+COS(Lat1)*SIN(distance/Radius)*COS(Bearing))
Lon2 =Lon1+ATAN2(COS(distance/Radius)-SIN(Lat1)*SIN(Lat2),SIN(Bearing1)*SIN(distance/Radius)*COS(Bearing))
(Note: all angles entered and shown in Radians = 57.296 degrees)
Pretty please?
Thoron
This is probably nothing, but for the last 3 days I've been struggling to find a way to accurately determine Lat/Long co-ords on a sphere of known radius (1,122km for the Ruins planet) from a starting point and a bearing - because I had a theory... It also ties into the discussions above nicely, but my thought was this...
The monoliths and triangles lead me to believe the builders of the ruins (not confirmed as the Guardians yet) really like the number 3 - and it suddenly dawned on me that on a sphere you can easily have a triangle where all the internal angles are 90 degrees!
Think of our own dear planet - slice a globe through the equator. Take another slice perpendicular to that (e.g. through the Greenwich meridian, or 0 degrees longtitude), then another slice perpendicular again. You end up with something like a quarter slice of one hemisphere - and the internal angles are all 90 degrees!.
Now, what if the ruins are on one corner, it should be easy to calculate where the other two corners are... except it wasn't that easy. In the past two days I've learnt more about the HAversine formula, and Arctangents / radians and everything else I forgot many years ago!
Anyway - I calculated the coordinates, given the bearing of 65 degrees using the most prominent ridge in the ruins (surely a pointer of some sort) and worked out the four possible points exactly one quarter of the circumference away from the ruins aligned to 65 degrees (and 155, 245, 335) and came up with the following co-ordinates:
+21.07 / -52.66
-50.45 / +09.51
-21.07 / -232.66
+50.45 / -170.48
Thinking I only need to check 3 of these, I've checked the first two, but couldn't find anything there, and its currently dark (really dark) in the last one.
However, I'm not so sure my calculations are correct - that third longtitude looks wrong to me (surely max of -180??)
Can someone check my working?
Radius of 1122 gives a Circumference of 7049.73, so one quarter circumference is 1762.43
Known Lat1 and Lon1 cords, and using this formula to find Lat2 and Lon2:
Lat2=ASIN(SIN(LAT1)*COS(distance/Radius)+COS(Lat1)*SIN(distance/Radius)*COS(Bearing))
Lon2 =Lon1+ATAN2(COS(distance/Radius)-SIN(Lat1)*SIN(Lat2),SIN(Bearing1)*SIN(distance/Radius)*COS(Bearing))
(Note: all angles entered and shown in Radians = 57.296 degrees)
Pretty please?
Thoron
I turned in my mission for 13 million from solo scans BEFORE the CG and i was able to get the mission again after the CG started and I could also do all scans to get 13 million again. This time i'm not turning it in yet though.
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I've literally just done it about 20 mins ago so it works. It's under contracts though, not missions. Give that a shot if you haven't already.
I reported him to mobius group.
I switch to non-horizons to get my ship back - it worked ( I was still alive in srv, just wreckage for a ship! ) I got ship back and returned to mobius and I think he came into the instance I was in again and another anaconda attacked, not sure who won, I lost connection!
Actually battle is still raging! in mobius now!!
and looks like my ship was destroyed again !! damn
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I was just there in Mobius and all was peaceful, with around 11 or more CMDRs. Which was fortunate as I needed help to dislodge my SRV.
Totally wedged onto an obelisk. Obelisk-SRV Love! [heart][heart][heart]
Totally wedged onto an obelisk. Obelisk-SRV Love! [heart][heart][heart]
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I was in a corvette, so I hopped over to Mobius and Mobius PVE but all was quiet. It really annoys me when someone tries to mess with the PVE group. I was hoping to send him to the rebuy screen.
Possible a new bug.
So my ship got destroyed at the ruins by another cmdr ( in Mobius PVE, he's been reported), I loaded ED non horizons, this recovers your ship in orbit, all seems okay, so I swap back to horizons and fly back to ruins, land, deploy srv and drive around for a bit doing stuff, when I go to return to my ship. choose board ship, I get a disconnected from server error, I reconnect to find, I'm in my SRV and my ship is gone, and I have no option to recall ship!! - so I repeated the whole process only for it to happen again. I'm now flying back felice dock, hoping that solves the problem.
So my ship got destroyed at the ruins by another cmdr ( in Mobius PVE, he's been reported), I loaded ED non horizons, this recovers your ship in orbit, all seems okay, so I swap back to horizons and fly back to ruins, land, deploy srv and drive around for a bit doing stuff, when I go to return to my ship. choose board ship, I get a disconnected from server error, I reconnect to find, I'm in my SRV and my ship is gone, and I have no option to recall ship!! - so I repeated the whole process only for it to happen again. I'm now flying back felice dock, hoping that solves the problem.
PM me the name please. Have a KOS sheet.
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Lol did the guy ask everyone to tell him a joke?
Known bug. Do a forum search on "Zombie Asp" to get the story.
Short of it is, Horizons thinks your ship is dead even though you can fly it. Any time you try to enter with your SRV or upload cargo, it crashes. Forever. Solution: Strip and sell your ship, buy a new one. The problem is associated only with that specific ship.
I believe someone posted the exact opposite site as 31.7877 / 51.0289.
He went there, didn't find anything. I went there last night, didn't find anything either.
Thats because you dont take into account that full angle rotation scale for lat is not 360 degrees or 2pi but ranging from -180 to 180 (-pi to pi, since you were mentioning radians in your post). so your latitude should be +127.34, so full coordinate will be:
-21.07 / +127.34
As for the rest, I did not check, sorry, too sleepy for that.
EDIT: oh, and also it is a mistake to simply reverse + or - sign to get opposite coordinate, since - and + both start at the same point, and not after whole interval. To put it simply to explain what I mean, +1 and -1 lang. will be very close to each other, and not on opposite sides of the globe.
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Sorry if this has been tried, but has anyone tested searching in these directions? With all the triangles on the site and more ruins apparently needed, the site might be a corner of a huge triangle. I also get the feeling that the distance to the other sites is encoded in the ruins themselves. That is assuming they're on the same moon, and that there's more than 1 site.
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Just a friendly reminder; if you do send someone to the rebuy screen in Mobius or Mobius PVE, they can report you and you will get kicked and banned as well. It doesn't matter if they drew first blood. The admins are very adament about this; do not fire back. Remove yourself from the situation and report it.
Additionally, by retaliating you are often playing into their hands. So it's a bonus for them.
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I attempted something a bit similar before the CG started
Amounted to me slowly swirling towards the north pole, but not much else. Did cover a lot of ground in the end, but I'm not really convinced that picking an angle and heading at it without knowing a bit more about the Guardians' design philosophy is going to yield any interesting finds.
http://i65.tinypic.com/2w4cua1.jpg
This whole nav beacon is loaded with clues and photos of how it looked in the past. Our task is to find the right standing point.
Edit: if I start to to talk about two grids, I will be crucified, burned, decapitated, and my remains will be ejected into the void.
I am not eloquent enough to discuss in concise manner (non native speaker).
Well, i don't want to be rude, but that's bull.
I've been reading now ~50 pages in one sitting and we had now 2 trolls probably including this one who's trying to claim, that he has found something. [with paint skills.]
It's just ing me off right now. Stop with that stupidity!
probably i'm a bit overtired...
learning and doing written exercices about electrical engineering for multiple hours is pretty tough.
shouldn't have gone to the university
Btw, i really hope you guys complete this CG!
Atm i won't be much of a great assistance for this community goal... on Thurstday the first exam
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