Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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Anyone got somewhere with the Ruins code? My guess is its a ternary number system, possibly ternary bits / bytes.

The deciphered text mentions that:
- the glyphs originated as sign language.
- the glyphs are *pictoral*.
- movement is used to add meaning.

If you read the panels like this...
1 2
3 4
5 6

1 is some kind of 'path' (maybe a constellation, maybe the order to activate the obelisks, maybe the author's garden path)? 2 is a shadow triangle with a little shadow triangle next to it /shrug.
3 is a shadow triangle that appears when 4 is in 'morning'? (maybe)

5 is some kindof ring(s) (a ringed world/star, maybe the mounds at the ruins, maybe an eye). 6 is the most interesting, as it shows 2 'rotating' objects and 3 triangles flashing in a simple sequence.

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In terms of decoding mathematically, it seems rather hard. We have no idea which of those triangles would come first, and even if we worked that out, we have no idea how to combine the panels into an output, nor any idea what the correct output would look like.

[if a mathematial solution is correct, then it would make more sense to start with the relic - which has a single, static glyph on it]
 
impossible to do the mission in mp right now ! every where i log in of fly to the ruins soem guy called [DELETED] keeps griefing and insta killing all people going to the ruins ! some one needs to stop him ! i cant do much in my asp explorer .. im not a player with tons of credits to afford a battleship or something i just want to do the mission and help scanning ...
 
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I can assure you they are not normal craters and the sound is not atmospheric noise. Does atmospheric noise increase to the point that it sounds like it it's being played through AC/DC's PA as you approach the the top of the central mountain in the crater? Think in terms of a radio telescope and and it's focal point. Also I was guided to the craters by the change from atmospheric noise to the ruins "singing" sound.

I now realise that I have not fully decoded the ancient ruins, but I do believe I have decoded enough to locate a second system and I'm starting to understand more. I will post my developing theory if/when I get proof.

First time poster here....be gentle :)

If it helps your research, there's a crater "left" to the ruins that kicks off music too. Not sure on the mountain though. I stumbled upon the crater and had a look see when the music started, but found nothing of interest. As usual I left before the music stopped. :)

I passed the crater because I figured that the weird shape of the plateau containing group G was a line of sight when standing on the big circulair mount. Now I think, having multiple nodes of a communication system on a sphere, they need to be connected via cable or via air.
If the distance between the nodes is large then we would need satallites to bounce the signal back onto the planet for the next node to receive. There's one thing orbiting this planet which is the moon, which could be a satallite....if it has singing dishes or a ruin.
In any case, I cannot find the cat 5 cable hooking this ruin up to the next so I abondoned this research.

I still believe plateau G is a line of sight but indeed upwards into the sky. The length of the left side of the plateau of group G may be bounds of the celestial body we're supposed to be looking for.

I did not want to go back so soon, but now there are three reasons to return. Redoing the scans is a double whammy cos of the CG and there're singing dishes.

I'm rigging for ruins...Bleigh says bye!
 
impossible to do the mission in mp right now ! every where i log in of fly to the ruins soem guy called [DELETED] keeps griefing and insta killing all people going to the ruins ! some one needs to stop him ! i cant do much in my asp explorer .. im not a player with tons of credits to afford a battleship or something i just want to do the mission and help scanning ...

I can recommend either PG group Canonn or Mobius as both offer same decrypts as with Open, but without the griefing. Have been at ruins in both groups today and 17 decrypts so far, 13 available in Solo.

Hope that helps
 
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impossible to do the mission in mp right now ! every where i log in of fly to the ruins soem guy called **** keeps griefing and insta killing all people going to the ruins ! some one needs to stop him ! i cant do much in my asp explorer .. im not a player with tons of credits to afford a battleship or something i just want to do the mission and help scanning ...

No naming and shaming on the forums please, it is in the rules you signed up to.
 
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impossible to do the mission in mp right now ! every where i log in of fly to the ruins soem guy called [DELETED] keeps griefing and insta killing all people going to the ruins ! some one needs to stop him ! i cant do much in my asp explorer .. im not a player with tons of credits to afford a battleship or something i just want to do the mission and help scanning ...

Join MOBIUS PVE group, great set of guys/girls that won't blow you up but will help you out :)
 
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There is actually a mistake on the Remlok Industries site saying there is a glyph of the moon rising and falling. The text in-game says waxing and waning - I think that's what that is. It says as it appeared on the GUARDIAN world, though. Maybe that's a hint?

Yeah, it said the Guardian glyph for 'moon' was a representation of the moon waxing and waning as seen from their homeworld. For Earth, I'd say a glyph of that nature would be something lie this: ( (| O |) )

All the parts should be the same height and the (| , |) and O should all be solid, filled shapes. It's the best I can do on the keyboard, but I hope you can see what I mean.
 

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The deciphered text mentions that:
- the glyphs originated as sign language.
- the glyphs are *pictoral*.
- movement is used to add meaning.

If you read the panels like this...
1 2
3 4
5 6

1 is some kind of 'path' (maybe a constellation, maybe the order to activate the obelisks, maybe the author's garden path)? 2 is a shadow triangle with a little shadow triangle next to it /shrug.
3 is a shadow triangle that appears when 4 is in 'morning'? (maybe)

5 is some kindof ring(s) (a ringed world/star, maybe the mounds at the ruins, maybe an eye). 6 is the most interesting, as it shows 2 'rotating' objects and 3 triangles flashing in a simple sequence.

---

In terms of decoding mathematically, it seems rather hard. We have no idea which of those triangles would come first, and even if we worked that out, we have no idea how to combine the panels into an output, nor any idea what the correct output would look like.

[if a mathematial solution is correct, then it would make more sense to start with the relic - which has a single, static glyph on it]

The other guess of mine its a binary code in the groups of three. Octa decimal? the pictures are not necessarily mean anything, in this matter it can be just 0 & 1



And what if the coordinates is not measured by the good old x y z system but rather from the distance of the galactic center, arc, z arc / height.

And did anyone taken account the rift? We know it has something to do with the aliens.

We have no idea which of those triangles would come first
I guess i go back to the game, and take a closer look to them again. If there is no change in the rhythm of their appearance than yes its hard to find out.

Edit; And finally? it does the coordinates are representing the current coordinates, or the coordinates in the date when the ruins built? Stellar movement.

Hmmm.... :D That's it!? Rotation! arc?
 
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Possible a new bug.
So my ship got destroyed at the ruins by another cmdr ( in Mobius PVE, he's been reported), I loaded ED non horizons, this recovers your ship in orbit, all seems okay, so I swap back to horizons and fly back to ruins, land, deploy srv and drive around for a bit doing stuff, when I go to return to my ship. choose board ship, I get a disconnected from server error, I reconnect to find, I'm in my SRV and my ship is gone, and I have no option to recall ship!! - so I repeated the whole process only for it to happen again. I'm now flying back felice dock, hoping that solves the problem.
It won't, you need to contact support, and yeah it's a bug.
 
Okay...

I think I might have something this time.

I think so. Even if not is a hell of work so take my rep :)

FD said that solo is not bugged and we are supposed to get only 13/101 data, so 6 site could fit assuming our ruins are the ones with less data. Are you decoding all the others obelisks light? Feel free to PM me if yuo come up with some coords to investigate, im currently jumping between meene and ruins for the cg
 
I think so. Even if not is a hell of work so take my rep :)

FD said that solo is not bugged and we are supposed to get only 13/101 data, so 6 site could fit assuming our ruins are the ones with less data. Are you decoding all the others obelisks light? Feel free to PM me if yuo come up with some coords to investigate, im currently jumping between meene and ruins for the cg

why ppl are so inclined to assume that all sites must have the same amount of data? Maybe one would hold almost all of it, then it is our site, and then some super-tiny site with couple of entries. For example, if we didnt rushed and found this site, but followed leads the way they were meant to be followed, and stumbled upon the site, that was meant to be first to be encountered, then it could have most of the data for ppl to do mission and cash in good sum of money, and then there migth be couple of smaller sites (including our ruins) that are meant for die-hard explorers willing to collect all data and get bonus 100mil in the process.
 
Just in case it wasn't mentioned yet. The mission should still be repeatable. I turned in the mission for 13 million before the CG, took the mission again after CG started. Now turned it in again for 14 million and after landing again I was given the mission again. So it seems you can do it indefinitely.
 
why ppl are so inclined to assume that all sites must have the same amount of data? Maybe one would hold almost all of it, then it is our site, and then some super-tiny site with couple of entries. For example, if we didnt rushed and found this site, but followed leads the way they were meant to be followed, and stumbled upon the site, that was meant to be first to be encountered, then it could have most of the data for ppl to do mission and cash in good sum of money, and then there migth be couple of smaller sites (including our ruins) that are meant for die-hard explorers willing to collect all data and get bonus 100mil in the process.

because its a network, and because logic :) every data network,IT infrastructure with some kind of backbone functionality is balanced between site. It doesnt make any sense a ruin site with 2 data and another with 86
 
is there actually something "solvable" here or do we need to wait for Ram Tah?

Basically, are we genuinely missing something or chasing nothing? I suspect some of the recent salt is simply down to frustration, and it would bolster the effort to know.

I have a hunch, and it's just a feeling, that the ruins were never as interesting a "puzzle" as we all thought they were or wanted them to be. We searched and calculated and measured and analyzed everything for many many weeks, but in the end we really just had to wait for a mission to be implemented, followed by a CG to happen, in order to actually find anything "new", and I kind of believe now that we never had any real chance to progress on our own without Frontier "turning things on".

I could be wrong, maybe we just weren't smart enough as a collective to do it, but I think it's more likely now that we were simply looking for a needle in a haystack when the needle wasn't even there to be found.

I'm fairly certain once the new CG concludes we will be given the locations of other ruin(s) to complete Ram Tah's mission, and the locations will probably be nowhere near where any maps or calculations or theories thought they would be. Not because we were wrong, but because we never had a chance or the information to find them at all.
 
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I have a hunch, and it's just a feeling, that the ruins were never as interesting a "puzzle" as we all thought they were or wanted them to be. We searched and calculated and measured and analyzed everything for many many weeks, but in the end we really just had to wait for a mission to be implemented, followed by a CG to happen, in order to actually find anything "new", and I kind of believe now that we never had any real chance to progress on our own without Frontier "turning things on".

I could be wrong, maybe we just weren't smart enough as a collective to do it, but I think it's more likely now that we were simply looking for a needle in a haystack when the needle wasn't even there to be found.

I'm fairly certain once the new CG concludes we will be given the locations of other ruin(s) to complete Ram Tah's mission, and the locations will probably be nowhere near where any maps or calculations or theories thought they would be. Not because we were wrong, but because we never had a chance or the information to find them at all.

That's kind of what I have feared all along also. All this calculations and thinking to try and find coordinates or messages or whatever to find other ancient sites when all there was, was just 13 scans on this site and then we have to wait for the CG to finish. Maybe the CG wasn't just thrown in because we made no progress in finding the other ruin sites, but maybe it was planned all along and there simply is nothing to figure out. I mean the fact that we have absolutely no information or clues whatsoever on where the other sites are just shows, that either the whole puzzle was just way to complicated and abstract to figure out or there never was a puzzle. I wonder what would have happened if we would have never found the current site via the trailer? Surely they would have had to provide us with details about where the ruins are shouldn't they?
 
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