Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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id like to think its more than just an artistic choice personally but still have no idea what it is, if this is an artistic choice, then what if the relic locations are just artistic choices etc, just seems odd that the planet is glowing, is there a power source underground, some form of reaction going on with the elements that form the planet etc :S

I think it *is* artistic portrayal, rather than directly usable to find something.

However, it may show things that are important to finding things - the obelisks, the relic-beacons, the close hanging moon...
 
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The symbols are faded which doesn't help matters, but..
http://imgur.com/a/yjbLG

thanks, i'll see if my blurry vision helps makes heads or tails of anything.

My guess would be it's possibly a representation of a base on their home world.
Mainly because there are some similarities to this...

egypt2.jpg
 
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Isn't Thursday the day new CGs get released ?

On a side note if Eds next stream isnt him driving or flying around a fkin planet with nothing to show for it after 5hrs hes not really representing the game play atm.
 
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hey guys, found a data point on SYNEUFE ZL-J D10-119 7 D @ 57.6524 18.5579

scanned it but nothing, anyone know what to do with this? do i have to find more?

Check your transactions you should have a claim for XX credits to a superpower for a data something or other.....I found one of those in the same system, Alliance for 18K.
 
Posted this late last night! (below the dotted lines)

I still need some one's assistance in placing an accurate lat/longitude compass over the top of this image - to get more accurate measurements!

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If anyone can add this theory to a fancy compass overlay with all the bearings, that would be amazing!

So, here it is:

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If anyone can put a proper compass over that, and apply my theory to it, we might have something in the way of co-ordinates.

You'll notice the numbers 1, 2, 3, and 4 in the image - I think these could be, based on their positions and proximity:

1: Synuefe ZL-J D10-119 11 B

2: Synuefe XO-P C22-17 D 1

3: IC 2391 Sector GW-V b2-4 (planet: ???)

4: IC 2391 Sector ZE-A d101 (planet: ???)

The reason I include the IC 2391 Sector systems is because, if there are 4 sites in 4 systems, then perhaps my anti-clockwise hypothesis, below, may not be entirely accurate - at least, not for all planets. Other criteria may apply, such as Axial Tilt that is negative (minus) - so check those out and see if any are similar the Ancient Ruins we already know of.

AGAIN - if anyone can apply a latitude/longitude compass overlay to the ruins and get accurate co-ordinates based on my theory, we could be on to something - all 4 of these co-ordinates on all planets could be done in a day or two EASY - we just need to know the most accurate latitude/longitude numbers from my image as most of it was guess work in paint.

Thanks all, see you tomorrow!

It's all here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ThjsXsz1N7R-JtSJsXl8w9ir8CrHui7ifHIXKwTCqfI/edit#gid=0

Okay - the Ancient Ruins are built on a planet that spins ANTI-CLOCKWISE - I'm of the personal assumption that this is important to the Guardians on location picks, and their home world may spin anti-clockwise.

After narrowing down the results in all systems, out of ALL the planets combined in ALL FOUR systems, ONLY FOUR planets have an Anti-Clockwise spin!

Further narrowing down these results, I have only picked the BEST TWO results, below:


Systems and planets matching Ancient Ruins criteria:

Synuefe XO-P C22-17 D 1

Synuefe ZL-J D10-119 11 B


The following did not make the cut:

Synuefe XO-P C22-17 AB 1 -
planet radius too large, too hot, is a High Metal content planet (not rocky), higher gravity, a lot denser.

Synuefe XO-P C22-17 AB 3
- like AB 1, very similar in all aspects - not at all similar to Synuefe Ancient Ruins.

Based on the evidence, I think Synuefe XO-P C22-17 D 1 and Synuefe ZL-J D10-119 11 B are THE BEST two candidates to search for ruins!
 
why would FD change the layout

If there was a pre-planned sequence in which we should find them they would swap Site 1 into the site we located first to remain consistent with the plan, site one points you to site two, two to three etc.

At some point we should find a site that matches what we now call the alpha site pre-change. then we will know which site was accidentally discovered first.

All of which suggests that there is a message and a set of instructions in the alpha site, we just have not worked it out yet.
 
id like to think its more than just an artistic choice personally but still have no idea what it is, if this is an artistic choice, then what if the relic locations are just artistic choices etc, just seems odd that the planet is glowing, is there a power source underground, some form of reaction going on with the elements that form the planet etc :S

Well I mean obviously the glowing is in relation to the artifact, we can clearly see that because of the color. But whether or not this is liquid from the artifact or electrical wiring or whatever it could be, my point was that I highly doubt that it has any meaning in relation to the puzzle. Whatever that glow is, I don't think it means anything.
 
AGAIN - if anyone can apply a latitude/longitude compass overlay to the ruins and get accurate co-ordinates based on my theory, we could be on to something - all 4 of these co-ordinates on all planets could be done in a day or two EASY - we just need to know the most accurate latitude/longitude numbers from my image as most of it was guess work in paint.!

I'm confused - are you not playing the game and able to do that yourself?
 
I dont think we will find the Ruins with brute forcing all planets like this.. it will take a long time.. to much ground to cover...and a small detail is easy to miss. I think we have to study the first ruins more now we know the 4 systems, and maybe finding that missing relic.

Or we can just try to find the site based on this screenshot lol

http://www.alpha-orbital.com/assets/images/post_img/elite-dangerous-guardians.jpg

If we trey to analyse this image, what do we have here? :
- One ancient artefact, seems to work, may be it's our goal, the Graal.
- Behind the obelisks, there are big rocks, menhirs. We should see it when flying over it.
- The moon is pretty close to this planet.

I do not think we will find exactly the same site of ruins, especially if the "alpha" is in fact only the beta or the gamma...
 
All of which suggests that there is a message and a set of instructions in the alpha site, we just have not worked it out yet.

Considering that we shouldn't have found site 2 as we did, and the stars were overlooked by the marketing team or w/e.. do we need to go back through promotional material and galnet news from around the time of the Guardians announcements and subsequent release.. see if we've missed anything that seems like co-ordinates? We have the systems, perhaps the clue we're missing to get the hunt started in the first place has been in plain sight for a while?
 
Maybe I'm just repeating well-known things, but...

Low graphical settings is more suitable for eye-searching of new ruin sites, than high. By Cmdr. Rupert Pyros's info, the XR-H D11-102 ruins on high graphics he did not see till less a kilometer, but on a low graphics that ruins was visible at nearly 20 km distance.

Can't check it right now because I'm at work.
 
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Well I mean obviously the glowing is in relation to the artifact, we can clearly see that because of the color. But whether or not this is liquid from the artifact or electrical wiring or whatever it could be, my point was that I highly doubt that it has any meaning in relation to the puzzle. Whatever that glow is, I don't think it means anything.

yeah your probably right, desperation setting in [wacko], just wondering if we have overlooked something simple and thats the only thing i can think of that hasnt received much attention lol
 
Maybe I'm just repeating well-known things, but...

Low graphical settings is more suitable for eye-searching of new ruin sites, than high. By Cmdr. Rupert Pyros's info, the XR-H D11-102 ruins on high graphics he did not see till less a kilometer, but on a low graphics ruins was visible at near 20 km distance.

Can't check it right now because I'm at work.

Draw distance is right now, if you expect to find them your best bet is with the audio.
 
I do not think we will find exactly the same site of ruins, especially if the "alpha" is in fact only the beta or the gamma...

I am pretty sure that the alpha site now contains the alpha ruins. Thats why they had to switch it.

Actually, that would mean that if we compare the pre-change alpha site as it was discovered, with the alpha site we have now, then the difference would represent ... something. The object that dissapeared in the change would be the new alpha site, and the object that appeared in the post change site would be where the pre-change site is now.

or something like that.

y'know.
 
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Whilst there is no reason not to look for possible information encoded into the layout of the existing site, it might just be shaped that way as that is how they built it. It might conform to a style they like, or it just got built organically like a regular town.

For example, it might be the equivalent of an alien explorer trying to calculate the position of other human bases by looking at the alignment of these structures.

elite-dangerous-base-landing.jpg




Also I wonder how advanced the Guardians were/are? Humans have spread over thousands of systems and built advances stations and bases, mostly using hi-tech modern materials.

We have found one Guardian outpost, with possible four more on the cards. There may be others as well, but it's hardly like the human bubble. Of course, these could be far from their core systems and home world, but still making structures out of rock is a little old hat.

EDIT: that said the structures could mostly be gone, and what we are seeing is the outline impressions of where they were.
 
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Okay guys have three thoughts:

It is apparent that a triangle was a significant part of their architecture. Its probably the most represented geometric shape. Given this picture: https://i.imgur.com/s1IyKaI.png, would it be possible that the 3-system "cluster" is their main area of space and the triangles expanding from there in two directions an expression of their love of geometry embodied in exploration? Therefore - could the central triangle have a third triangle coming out of its "bottom" part? Pointing to another system perhaps? Another missing relic perhaps?

However as to the discovered ruins pointing the way. It escapes my logic why would anyone build a base to have it show the way to more bases... Or build according to a planetary geometry system hundreds of LYs away.

And lastly the glowing ground. We have seen relics coming from the ground. Could it be more below?
 
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