Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[morph113]

i think you need to look at the existing planet with the ruins examine its properties and use them to find the new ruins. my 2p...

im doing it now, others help.

What do you think we have been doing. This was overdone on day 1 after the systems reveal but we have gotten nowhere, no concrete evidence what to look for. There are 5 million theories what we could look for.
Ranging from moons of ringed dwarfs to planets with moons to planets with 300K surface temperature to planets which are tidally locked to planets which rotate against their own axis. We have no concrete information what to look for. If we would have 2 or 3 planets to compare them and find a pattern, that would be easier. But with 1 planet it's impossible. But if you have any ideas, let us know.

 

[Bryan K]

Quick idea before bed. 2nd tree site at ruin system. Fungus tree's are LOUD! nighttime setting audio , boosts quieter subtle sounds, other geo or cone fungus sounds normal , but here is LOUD!.

Could this since both sites located in small craters with splash blasts , 2 tree sites, 2 craters on the moon .

Crater could be a dish, tree's are the antenna focusing sounds ? like a giant sattelite dish for communications perhaps.
Kinda like for some Obelisk communication network that may be around.
http://i.imgur.com/75fQDfwh.jpg
IC 2391 Sector ZE-A D101 C3A
Site 1 11.44 / 48.43 Site 2 Located 6.86 / 135.37

https://youtu.be/jAC3EJBPooo

Well, technically the sound is just for ambiance, as there is no atmosphere to transmit sound on an airless body.

The fact that both sites are in a crater seems like more than a coincidence. There's a popular theory that life can be deposited on a planet by comets and asteroids (Panspermia). Perhaps this is where the space-fungus came from?

 

[morph113]

Well, technically the sound is just for ambiance, as there is no atmosphere to transmit sound on an airless body.

The fact that both sites are in a crater seems like more than a coincidence. There's a popular theory that life can be deposited on a planet by comets and asteroids (Panspermia). Perhaps this is where the space-fungus came from?

It's certainly interesting if this is a life form, which it appears to be. It seems like it doesn't need oxygen and it doesn't need water. I wonder what minerals this life form needs to continue to live or how it's organism works. Well maybe there is no explanation for it and FD just did it for us to have something to discover. But considering how much attention to detail they pay and how (mostly) scientifically accurate the game is, I would think they have thought about how this life form can live in conditions which appear to be void of any form of livable conditions.

 

[CMDR Dreamstate]

Guys...

What makes us think there are 4 ruin sites?

Ram Tah narrowed it down to 4 systems, but he said nothing about 4 ruins - I was under the assumption there was only 2 more to find, based on the data that was found between 6-12 (average) but none of 1-5 or 13-20?

Doesn't this mean 2 systems are bogus ones?

 

[Bryan K]

Guys...

What makes us think there are 4 ruin sites?

Ram Tah narrowed it down to 4 systems, but he said nothing about 4 ruins - I was under the assumption there was only 2 more to find, based on the data that was found between 6-12 (average) but none of 1-5 or 13-20?

Doesn't this mean 2 systems are bogus ones?

How would the data network link to 4 systems if there weren't 4 more corresponding ruins sites?

The other 4 sites may be smaller outposts, with the alpha site being a sort of data hub. Or, they may have fewer intact obelisks.

 

[SpaceGoblin]

Guys...

What makes us think there are 4 ruin sites?

Ram Tah narrowed it down to 4 systems, but he said nothing about 4 ruins - I was under the assumption there was only 2 more to find, based on the data that was found between 6-12 (average) but none of 1-5 or 13-20?

Doesn't this mean 2 systems are bogus ones?

Maybe. We don't really know. They are "systems of interest" to the alien ruins mystery is pretty much all we have on them.

Patience and a spot of inspired lateral thinking will hopefully reveal more at some point.

 

[CMDR-AD]

How can the Ruins Site point to four sites simultaneously?

After bookmarking the sites that Tah listed, I couldn't help but notice that between the two distant systems (one of which is the original ruins site), the central three form a triangle much in the same form as the abandoned "Listening Post" sites from a short while ago. It came to mind that perhaps there is a system in the center of this triangle. But attempting to search this out only multiplies the search area, and at present I'd prefer to keep my efforts as manageable as possible.

Oh, regarding the trees posted earlier in this thread, are they a new discovery? Fantastic if so, congratulations to the CMDR who first found them. I was on that same planet for a few hours just the night before, fun to think I was so nearby.

 

[morph113]

Guys...

What makes us think there are 4 ruin sites?

Ram Tah narrowed it down to 4 systems, but he said nothing about 4 ruins - I was under the assumption there was only 2 more to find, based on the data that was found between 6-12 (average) but none of 1-5 or 13-20?

Doesn't this mean 2 systems are bogus ones?

We do know that there are more sites (plural) so at least 2 more sites. But yes it is indeed possible that there are only 2 more sites and I don't know if I should mention it, but there was some very strong evidence that there are 3 sites in total, but I won't say how because it was against the rules on how that info was gathered, but it was briefly posted in this forum by someone but got deleted. Anyway, we know that they said that the ruins in open "reveal more than they should". However we do not know if this means that there should only be 13 scans, the ones we get in solo. Or if the 36 scans for that site are correct but the way they were gathered was against how this ruins site should have worked. It's entirely possible that there are 3 ruin sites in total with between 33-36 scans each and that indeed 2 of the given systems don't contain a site.

 

[Deinonychus2012]

Guys...

What makes us think there are 4 ruin sites?

Ram Tah narrowed it down to 4 systems, but he said nothing about 4 ruins - I was under the assumption there was only 2 more to find, based on the data that was found between 6-12 (average) but none of 1-5 or 13-20?

Doesn't this mean 2 systems are bogus ones?

We still only have 13 legit data packets from the first ruins, though, so if there are only two more, they'd have to give 44 data packets each (which I suppose is technically possible, but it doesn't seem likely).

Unless what we're looking for is a "switch" of some kind that activates the open/PG bugged obelisks in solo mode, which again is possible since those obelisks are coded to activate and give data.

 

[xXxSatelliteNetxXx]

I felt some reassurance after reading the statement that Drew said we "missed" a few thing's.
which basically tells me, We should not be brute forcing to find what ever we are looking for, I'm starting to doubt it's even ruins.
we all need to take a step back, or 4, and go to the beginning again and start with the actual hard information we have now,
For all we know, there is not anything on the planets.

 

[NascentChemist]

Guys...

What makes us think there are 4 ruin sites?

Ram Tah narrowed it down to 4 systems, but he said nothing about 4 ruins - I was under the assumption there was only 2 more to find, based on the data that was found between 6-12 (average) but none of 1-5 or 13-20?

Doesn't this mean 2 systems are bogus ones?

If that is the case, then shouldn't we all focus on Synuefe ZL-J d10-119? It's the only system with moons around ringed planets.

 

[JezH146]

Guys...

What makes us think there are 4 ruin sites?

Ram Tah narrowed it down to 4 systems, but he said nothing about 4 ruins - I was under the assumption there was only 2 more to find, based on the data that was found between 6-12 (average) but none of 1-5 or 13-20?

Doesn't this mean 2 systems are bogus ones?

If what MB was saying is true - that Solo is working and the others are revealing too much - then there were 13 data caches at the original ruins... which could mean there are 7 other sites. We just have no idea

 

[Megacrafter127]

Guys...

What makes us think there are 4 ruin sites?

Ram Tah narrowed it down to 4 systems, but he said nothing about 4 ruins - I was under the assumption there was only 2 more to find, based on the data that was found between 6-12 (average) but none of 1-5 or 13-20?

Doesn't this mean 2 systems are bogus ones?

We do not know how many active obelisks the other sites have.
But if at least 1 site is bogus, I don't think it would be IC 2391 Sector ZE-A D101, as C 3 is a very good match.

 

[xXxSatelliteNetxXx]

We still only have 13 legit data packets from the first ruins, though, so if there are only two more, they'd have to give 44 data packets each (which I suppose is technically possible, but it doesn't seem likely).

Unless what we're looking for is a "switch" of some kind that activates the open/PG bugged obelisks in solo mode, which again is possible since those obelisks are coded to activate and give data.

Apparently the Obelisks that where usable in open / PG, where not supposed to be used, it was indeed a glitch and we are not at that point yet to use those, i only play in solo mode, and it seems that's the correct instance to rely on

 

[morph113]

If that is the case, then shouldn't we all focus on Synuefe ZL-J d10-119? It's the only system with moons around ringed planets.

Which raises the question again why ringed planets are of importance? Just because the first ancient site happens to be on a moon orbiting a ringed brown dwarf doesn't mean this has any kind of relevance. I mean it could have, but logically it doesn't occur to me what difference that would make to their communication network.

 

[fourty6to3]

Guys,

Why do you continue to torture yourselves with this futile search across billions of square kilometers? Let's go on strike and halt all exploration activities until FDev take exploration mechanics more seriously and actually spend time developing tools! For the greater good! [big grin]

 

[Bryan K]

I felt some reassurance after reading the statement that Drew said we "missed" a few thing's.
which basically tells me, We should not be brute forcing to find what ever we are looking for, I'm starting to doubt it's even ruins.
we all need to take a step back, or 4, and go to the beginning again and start with the actual hard information we have now,
For all we know, there is not anything on the planets.

People here have been trying to decipher the ruins for MONTHS. We don't have that kind of time for this mission (unless you use the exploit to reset the timer). Whatever this all leads to, we were meant to find it in a month. The fact that no one has come up with a definitive answer to what the ruins actually represent says that the puzzle itself is flawed. If only one person in a million can make sense of it, then what is the point?

 

[NascentChemist]

I'm thinking of the shape of the original ruins site. The two circular mounds with one have clear rings. (I think? This is all conjecture.)

 

[CMDR Dreamstate]

I'm along the lines of that the systems with F-Class stars are the ones we want to perhaps focus on.

There are 101 Data to collect in total, 36 at the original site - so 101 / 3 = 33.66666666666667 - I expect only 33 or 34 Data was supposed to be unlocked, but 1 or 2 extra got caught - this must be what MB was on about.

Also, IC 2391 Sector ZE-A d101 (emphasis on the 101) is in the middle of the original Synuefe ruins and Synuefe ZL-J d10-119 - it would be the point of the pyramid, so to speak.

EDIT: Also, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=101

101
an introductory lesson on something
If he cant teach grilling 101, I don't know who can.

Almost makes me feel this is a big bloody joke by Frontier.

 

[Bryan K]

Guys,

Why do you continue to torture yourselves with this futile search across billions of square kilometers? Let's go on strike and halt all exploration activities until FDev take exploration mechanics more seriously and actually spend time developing tools! For the greater good! [big grin]

They'll sit back and laugh while we all lose out on making 100 million credits and ultimately never resolve this mystery.