At this point we might as well check every non-landable planet in hopes the aliens wrote "this way" with a giant arrow on them
Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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At this point we might as well check every non-landable planet in hopes the aliens wrote "this way" with a giant arrow on them
oooh now what do I do. Tax return? or 4k planet skimming. The agony of choice!
Have we checked rings of planets for anything?
Okay, I just found something on Synuefe ZL-J D10-110 12A.....
.... a bunch of fumeroles with green clouds coming from them.
I've never seen fumeroles before, but certainly not seen any pics of them with the green glow of the alien ruins around them.
They have crystaline structures, but nothing more than the usual elements (cadmium, etc)
http://imgur.com/g29Wtow
http://imgur.com/6abpQbU
http://imgur.com/BdQDuEb
.... a bunch of fumeroles with green clouds coming from them.
I've never seen fumeroles before, but certainly not seen any pics of them with the green glow of the alien ruins around them.
They have crystaline structures, but nothing more than the usual elements (cadmium, etc)
http://imgur.com/g29Wtow
http://imgur.com/6abpQbU
http://imgur.com/BdQDuEb
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I'm in the middle of checking -/+31 by -/+64 as you idea might be out there but why not check it out and I'm feed up of watching planet pass me by. Then I relised something which makes me think you have something. The originl site is -31/-128 my maths might be off but 64 + 64 = 128...
I'm on D10-119 7 D
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On my way to the only ringed planet in D101.
oooh now what do I do. Tax return? or 4k planet skimming. The agony of choice!
Pictures!
There are lots of angular suggestions in this puzzle. Applying them to something concrete is infuriating because so far its all been speculation. At least its something worth trying. Merope 5c might be the 'unit'. All previous puzzles had stuff building from the previous. UAs taught us to listen and sketch, UPs applied that and taught us planets could be measured with other planets as a reference.
So what's the 'one'? The line or distance that is 'one' unit? Bleg, been laying in bed sick all day my head isn't in it. All those attributes are in different units too. The only thing we could test is the long line in the middle, and the small line coming from the small circle, bottom right of it. Get the ratio and compare it with the ratio of ruin planet and its moon. Be easy thing to test.
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Yes the ruins have and are still being looked at for clues, please, if you've entered the thread new, check out the front page before judging what other commanders have or have not done, this has been months ongoing with 1000s of commanders. Fresh eyes and perspective are always good, rehashing something that's been gone over a 1000 times is not, but by all means as stated, check out the front page, you might see something that THOUSANDS of others have missed.
I think something has been missed, but I'm also of the opinion that it's something that's so obscure that it's only obvious to the person who thought up the puzzle.
I think something has been missed, but I'm also of the opinion that it's something that's so obscure that it's only obvious to the person who thought up the puzzle.
11 B had nothing at all 4 locations, so I've moved to 11 A - if unsuccessful there, I'll head to C and D next - then the rest of the system.
Hoping to have visited them all by tomorrow evening - and mostly the rest of the system, too.
I'm convinced the gaps line up to make those triangles - and each triangle completes the whole (triad). This will stand true if there are only 2 new sites, not 4 (I'm convinced it is just 2, at the F-Class stars).
Everything is done with triangles in the ruins - the Guardians love them and they developed AI (128bit, 64bit, 32bit, 16bit, 8bit, etc. - the ruins we know of is basically -32bit by -128bit) - the lore supports my drawing, I feel.
It is just a matter of checking all the co-ordinates at all the planets - if we have a game plan, then at least it could lead us to the ruins.
Everyone on day 1 was checking -31.xxxx/32 and -128.xxxx/29 because there was a slim chance they shared the same co-ordinates, but seemed to be fruitless - and I think it is because the 2 next sites are REALLY simplistic to find if you know how. The only tool we need is to use our heads - we can do this
Search all the planets with all 32/64 co-ordinates - what else have we got to lose?
Hoping to have visited them all by tomorrow evening - and mostly the rest of the system, too.
I'm convinced the gaps line up to make those triangles - and each triangle completes the whole (triad). This will stand true if there are only 2 new sites, not 4 (I'm convinced it is just 2, at the F-Class stars).
Everything is done with triangles in the ruins - the Guardians love them and they developed AI (128bit, 64bit, 32bit, 16bit, 8bit, etc. - the ruins we know of is basically -32bit by -128bit) - the lore supports my drawing, I feel.
It is just a matter of checking all the co-ordinates at all the planets - if we have a game plan, then at least it could lead us to the ruins.
Everyone on day 1 was checking -31.xxxx/32 and -128.xxxx/29 because there was a slim chance they shared the same co-ordinates, but seemed to be fruitless - and I think it is because the 2 next sites are REALLY simplistic to find if you know how. The only tool we need is to use our heads - we can do this
Search all the planets with all 32/64 co-ordinates - what else have we got to lose?
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Yep, allow for margin of error - we don't know where exactly the true centre for the co-ordinates of the ruin site (that we know of), as that was taken by a CMDR (wherever his ar$e was parked at the time) and then published in this thread as -31.7877, -128.9711 - I have a feeling they should have just evened it off to -32.0000 by -128.0000 - otherwise this makes calculations trickier than they have to be when you're trying to do fine adjustments.
Mistake by Canonn on their part, I think.
The true value probably is -32.0000 by -128.0000
However, check around if you are investigating those 32's and 64's and do a fly over and just keep your eyes peeled! Double-check everything.
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There are the undecoded patterns on the obelisks themselves. The pattern-shifting code that make them up hasn't been determined, but there's 6 fields and they shift around 100 times (not everyone shifts... 100 is a rough estimate) for a potential of 600 characters work of data. Even more than that, they are 18-bit (0=>dark, 1=> light) so that's 2^18 * 6 (there's 6 fields) * ~100 permutations. Potentially a lot of data.
I have spent hours trying to decode the patterns and I can't figure it out. I've tried binary mapping, I tried Gray coding mapping, I've tried looking at them as images. I can't figure it out. But I would think you could encode an entire map in the patterns along with precision data on exactly how far away things are. You could even encode a graphical map - there's enough bits of data to easily do this... but I don't think they would make it that hard.
Someone smarter than I am made up this page with the entries in it. The far right has the patterns.
https://ixalon.github.io/elitedangerous/
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Just throwing this out there, but I assume FDev is up to date on computer technology, with current technology we don't have true AI, we have a simulation of AI, quantum computing might bring true AI, but this does not deal in absolutes like binary 1 and 0's, it works by probability, it occurs to me the Guardians are well beyond clunky binary, but that's just my opinion.
The soundtrack for Conan the Barbarian has reinvigorated my search. I look at every last rock on every planet now. Movie soundtracks are so inspirational.
The more I look at the ruins, the more I'm reminded of that visual message Arecibo beamed towards some star system a couple decades ago. If anyone actually received it, I'll bet they're having the exact same discussions we are now. Poor souls... probably combing every inch of every G-type system they can find.
So extending this logic with 3.30am semi-clarity : we could take 8 points on each planet +/-32 +/-64 + +/-32 +/- 128 that has the matching rotation > orbit as the ruin does. Depending on its axial tilt 1 of the 8 points would be in the correct position to be a relay? This makes sense in my head but possibly not to others :s
No that what I'm thinking as well. It also fits with FDev wants us not to spend are lifes going around planets and moons for the next n years and find the sites
The only thing is, it's so simple why has no one else seen this?
it's too simple, and assumes the guardians also use degrees to measure angles.
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