Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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I just recorded 1 hour and 5 minutes worth of obelisk audio at obelisk E1 in solo play, if anyone is interested. It is a FLAC file, link to dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tqn5yqxo8yqy2rl/E1_obelisk_sound.flac?dl=0

I will be doing some work with the sound file myself, however you are free to use it and check it out, see if you can find any patterns in the high-pitched noises or something like that.

Did you by chance record video of the triangles formation at the same time? Might be some correlation between the visual Que and the sounds emitted.

Just a thought
 
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What would help tremendously is if we knew what elements comprised the obelisks and other structures at the ruins.

Maybe they are made of a locally sourced rare element that would point us to a specific planet/moon. I know people are trying to match up planet types and compositions, but if one planet in each system had that specific element then we'd know where to look.

I have noticed an abundance of arsenic in and around the planet hosting the alpha site. Maybe we should focus on the arsenic-rich worlds?
 
What would help tremendously is if we knew what elements comprised the obelisks and other structures at the ruins.

Maybe they are made of a locally sourced rare element that would point us to a specific planet/moon. I know people are trying to match up planet types and compositions, but if one planet in each system had that specific element then we'd know where to look.

I have noticed an abundance of arsenic in and around the planet hosting the alpha site. Maybe we should focus on the arsenic-rich worlds?


At least a carbon dating... so we'd know in comparison to planets with craters in them, if the crates would pre-date or post-date... that would then tell us if its worth looking into craters ;)
 
Just realised the coordinates to the known site have 13 numbers just like the amount of data we're supposed to have.

Heavy dependency on guardians using the same system, of course.

Map with original obelisks available on the FP?

Got a little more excited when I also counted 13 groups of obelisks but I realise this is a bit "in the eye of the beholder". You could argue that I should also split groups 1,2 and 5 like I did with 7 to 12.

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Sadly I have pub duty now but I'll work on this tomorrow. It looks like I may have to take the mission again and see if the sequence makes any sense with relation to the coordinates. Couldn't find a map that says which obelisk gives data first, second and so forth and maybe that's even irrelevant.
 
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I'm only supporting this via this thread, but it strikes me there are 4 pillars with relics on the top, and Ram Tah suggests 4 new systems to search; I don't think this is likely to be concidemtal. To me that means the pillars are part of the comms network and the obelisks are the library store of the Guardians. Hence the clue to the other ruin sites must lie in the pillars.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the pillars carry glyphs on their bases but they are the same for each pillar. I don't think anyone has noted any differences in markings/size etc of the pillars. In that case could we have a set of hi-res close up pictures (from several angles of each one) of the relics at the top ? Cmdr Thatchinho posted a set for one pillar recently & I think there are some internal marks that might be relevant.

https://imgur.com/gallery/eH875

Not sure how useful they will be, I took them a few days ago for my own use. Wasn't too concerned about quality at the time.
 
Because -31.7868 -128.9217 is what is considered the socially accepted number as that is what is presented to everyone - in reality, it was the co-ordinates from wherever the CMDR's ar$e was parked at the time when recording the ruin site.

Evening the numbers to 32 by 128 keeps the co-ordinates really simple (and, from high up, doesn't make any difference between -31.7868 -128.9217). 32 and 128 are bits in computing, so I think that is what we should be focusing on: 32/64/128 - all of which are covered in my diagram, below. I think using the -31.7868 -128.9217 co-ordinates is a mistake, and the true value is -32 by -128, because that would make sense for a species and culture that revered AI and developed computing and loved geometry and symmetry.

Why would they choose the same meridian for longitude zero as we? Makes no sense.
 
Thanks Timmy.

The Barnacles are the part of the puzzle that is confusing me too. Unless I was wrong about the UP being reverse engineered (as I have wondered a few times) and it was actually the UA that was reverse engineered.

*replace 'Feds' with whoever you like.

This is what I've always believed, that the Probes were in the game before the Artefacts. The line of thought being that 'something' was using the probes looking for 'something', I believe that we could have found it in game first. However we didn't, as most people tend to ignore non-land-able planets. As a result they just moved the story on, on it's own having the Feds discover one, research it (Sirius Corp, anyone? :D ) and create the Artefact and deploy it as some sort of sensor net looking for unknown ships. So then players find the Artefacts and find out they are scanning for something and transmitting the data of ships scanned somewhere. Can't remember it the Commander who first found the Probe Convoy USS was actively searching for anything linked to the Artefacts nor not, but regardless eventually the elusive 'free floaters' were found. Then like moths to a flame we start playing with them all over the place. This works with the current appearance of USs. But are these unknown ships from the ones who sent the probes or the ones being searched for?

Of course, If the Artefacts were placed there by Forces Unknown and were found by the Feds and again researched and whatnot, ending up with Probes being sent to various Ammonia worlds looking for Something. Probably in the belief that something from an ammonia world was involved in the Artefacts. Based on the little we know, Thargoids like those so lets start with what we know then move on to other places. Makes sense to me. Players come along and start finding the Artefacts, meaning a lot of scanning by the Artefacts etc so the forces unknown are getting a lot of data. So now we have to ask ourselves was this a tactical mistake on the the part of the Feds, letting a lot of data get transmitted? Or was it a planned tactical manoeuvre, to ends as of yet unknown? And now we have unknown ships appearing... is this in response to all these ship scans? Were they the ones who put the Artefacts in place? Or maybe the Artefact was looking for these guys?

In truth both ideas work well.
 
Why would they choose the same meridian for longitude zero as we? Makes no sense.

And why round -31.7868 up to -32 while rounding -128.9217 down to -128? Not even internally consistent rules in number handling. Internally consistent would be -31, -128 or -32,-129...that's not nearly as pretty though.
 
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Why would they choose the same meridian for longitude zero as we? Makes no sense.

Because any logical being will divide a sphere the same way, whether they call it -31,-128 or "shnarfle, garp" is just semantics. Math would be pretty much universal unless measuring interdimensionally. In which case all bets are off
 
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And why round -31.7868 up to -32 while rounding -128.9217 down to -128? Not even internally consistent rules in number handling. Internally consistent would be -31, -128 or -32,-129...that's not nearly as pretty though.

Besides the fact that 360 degrees for a circle is an human fabrication.
 
I'm only supporting this via this thread, but it strikes me there are 4 pillars with relics on the top, and Ram Tah suggests 4 new systems to search; I don't think this is likely to be concidemtal. To me that means the pillars are part of the comms network and the obelisks are the library store of the Guardians. Hence the clue to the other ruin sites must lie in the pillars.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the pillars carry glyphs on their bases but they are the same for each pillar. I don't think anyone has noted any differences in markings/size etc of the pillars. In that case could we have a set of hi-res close up pictures (from several angles of each one) of the relics at the top ? Cmdr Thatchinho posted a set for one pillar recently & I think there are some internal marks that might be relevant.

Here are the 3 pics of the base of the B4 relic beacon. I noted they are really only 2 gifs that are flipped vertically to give the illusion of many different images, so I dismissed them as just artsy and useless.

Note this is only the base. There may be other icons/glyphs further up the relic beacon.

http://imgur.com/a/U262h
 
Because any logical being will divide a sphere the same way, whether they call it -31,-128 or "shnarfle, garp" is just semantics. Math would be pretty much universal unless measuring interdimensionally. In which case all bets are off

You can't deduct the prime meridian from math, it's a random determination.
 
I was looking at the site map again and then looked at my waypoint markers for the three systems. If you turn the Galaxy map upside down, the beacons at the "Alpha" site match with the star alignment. Can anyone superimpose the two images? I am at work and can't do it now. http://imgur.com/a/eeWHO

Not sure if it means anything of course.

Looking at the bottom of the beacons, there are triangle symbols. They are the same on all the beacons. A large triangle and 4 smaller triangles in different layouts. Guys, I really think this might be a clue on the other ruins locations. I just not a crypto guys that figures puzzles like that out. Someone smarter than me puzzle that out for me?
 

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Evening the numbers to 32 by 128 keeps the co-ordinates really simple (and, from high up, doesn't make any difference between -31.7868 -128.9217).

*chuckles*

Did you by chance record video of the triangles formation at the same time? Might be some correlation between the visual Que and the sounds emitted.

Just a thought

I made videos long ago that Chris used to create his website from. The issue might be that the patterns loop every 6 seconds! Spent a lot of time in front of those obelisks, never seen anything in them myself.

I deleted all the long videos ages ago.
 
This blank grey image everyone is using to edit their theories is wrong, and it could drastically effect our results, who ever took this image is missing the detail above the top circle and the detail below the bottom circle which is Crucial! Does anyone have a proper up to date image, also containing the re-position obelisks?
 
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