Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[Iron Orchid]

Perhaps it's four maps (one for each relic) overlaid as one glyph.

If multiples sites have been found, how about creating a "stacked map"?

I had a similar idea some pages back (this thread moves far too fast!).

 

[Zannry]

I still believe there should be a way to get 15 scans from the first ruins site as there are 15 obelisks active, it makes no sense at all to have an active obelisk that can be scanned but have it return no data.

Unless the other sites also contain different ancient artifacts which are required to decode the last two beacons at the Alpha site.

 

[Eqitx]

Possibly a typo, but I did always feel that Synuefe ZL-J D10-119 didn't fit the picture somehow...

News is back mentioning 4 systems
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/58872def9657ba9230f89d99

 

[Ozric]

(Timmy here. Forgot all about that Inara page, I gotta keep that updated!)
To follow up on that: Didn't find anything in Tiliala, but they did have some tourist beacons. Mostly just detailing the history of a big conflict in system, can't remember the details. I think the key is Wreakon's partnership with Sirius. Wreakon-Sirius-Col 70-Exodus-The Rift...I'd venture to say they are all linked. I'd throw in the barnacles too but I'm still not too sure what their purpose is.

Thanks Timmy.

The Barnacles are the part of the puzzle that is confusing me too. Unless I was wrong about the UP being reverse engineered (as I have wondered a few times) and it was actually the UA that was reverse engineered.

We know that the 2 missions at the end of Frontier didn't happen in this timeline, but we don't know that the intention isn't still there. What if it was the INRA that created the UAs? What if it was an Alliance based group that created the Barnacles? Corrupting and repairing viruses. UAs found near crashed alien ships. Sirius Corp recently asked for lots of UFs in a CG that was blindly followed...

The INRA was formed of a co-op between the Feds and Imps. Sirius Corporation has had a lot of dealings with both the Feds and the Imps, they have had their fingers in every single high profile disappearance/accident that's happened over the last 2 years. I knew they were dodgy, but I'd always assumed they were working for the Alliance to gain strategic knowledge on the others, what if it's far worse...

Who made the barnacles is still a puzzle, Caine Massey is still the only link we have (not that it leads anywhere), but if they're growing Meta Alloys naturally then it was to arouse as little suspicion as possible. That all went to pot though.

 

[GmG2Richardson]

I was looking at the site map again and then looked at my waypoint markers for the three systems. If you turn the Galaxy map upside down, the beacons at the "Alpha" site match with the star alignment. Can anyone superimpose the two images? I am at work and can't do it now.

Not sure if it means anything of course.

 

[GmG2Richardson]

Anyone think this means anything? If you flip the Galaxy map upside down, the systems match up with the beacons at "alpha" site:

imgurDOTcom/a/eeWHO

Anyone able to superimpose the two pictures? I can't right now.

 

[CMDR Private Parts]

Possibly a typo, but I did always feel that Synuefe ZL-J D10-119 didn't fit the picture somehow...

I really hope this is a typo. I've spent all week out there and yes when you look at the systems from the galaxy map it does not seem to fit. That along with map over lays from earlier in the thread suggesting we are missing a relic possibly...

 

[Freudulent]

REGARDING: CLASSIFIED SCAN DATABANKS

check out Dr Kaii You Tube vids. I think he suggests visiting a famine state system and sitting in a beacon (can't remember what it's called - supply maybe) where loads of sidewinders come and go after reloading. You do manage to get enough of the things if you are patient

 

[Justicar_Thorn]

Just a little friendly advice that may keep the noise level down a bit in this thread (I don't think I've done one for #9 yet):

1. Don't report a POI, Shipwreck, Downed Satellite, etc the minute you find it. Do some research on your own first. Mostly that means, log out and then back in again, to check if it is persistant (just make sure you scan it and everything before doing this). If it is not persistant, it is not significant. It's randomly generated, just like 99.99% of all POIs.
And the same goes for graphics glitches. Is it still there after you have logged out and back in? If not, it's a glitch. Please ignore it, and help us ignore it as well by not reporting it here. And remember; the Ruins do not produce a POI, so the chances of one being significant to the ruins search are infinitesimally small!

2. Please don't just throw random ideas around like they were disposable napkins. Atleast make a bit of an effort yourself first. It is not helpful to see three sentences of brainstorming, which ends with "What do you think?". Atleast do some controls by yourself. Is there something that doesn't fit my theory? Are there blatant things that disproves it? Have I gone as far as I can on my own with this theory? The community is here to help, but it's not here to do the work for you!
Which leads me to...

3. Do not ask if someone has done one thing or the other (that includes anything with a UA/UP/Ancient Relic/etc, or searched somewhere you find interesting). Do it yourself! If you haven't seen it here, either you are too lazy to read the thread (especially the FP^TM), or it hasn't been done. Either way, the onus is on you to do something about it, and not hand work over to others. If you are way out in the boonies somewhere and can't do it yourself, then atleast add a Theory to why you think doing something, or searching somewhere is important. And "Has anyone brought Ancient Relics while searching in Synuefe X-Y-Z?" is not a Theory! If you have in-game friends, ask them if they can help you out. From #2; The community is here to help, but it's not here to do the work for you!

4. If you really have a Theory, please present it as clear and concise as you possibly can. Pictures are nice for illustration, but they are worthless if you don't describe your thinking. Nobody can help you with a theory if you haven't explained it thoroughly. That only generates more questions than answers, and adds to the noise in this thread. It is moving faster than the speed of all coloured lights combined already, don't make it go fast enough to make time travel a reality.

5. And never, ever, say "I found something, it's cool, I may tell you later"! Even if you have found something, keep it to yourself it you aren't willing to share. It's borderline trolling and will put you on ignore-lists faster than this thread is moving, and it just adds noise. You're not here to be part of a community, so don't bother the community with it at all. Be better than that, and share when you feel ready.

6. And the voices in your head are still real, but unfortunately you are also still the only one that can hear them.

/rant

Gonna have to point out some of us are at work and still trying to help so a lot of your tirade is moot. We can't very well test if from here, so we throw it out here to try and get the ruins found faster.

Also, public thread is public

 

[Meme the little Thargoid]

Anyone seen this "thing" underneath the ruins?

http://imgur.com/a/Y7q6p

It circles clockwise around three other static things of the same shape.
I know, its under the surface and so "out of game". But what is its function?
I know games who use similar techniques to manage ingame things, out of range of the player.

 

[Pumabear8]

A typo would be spelling FOUR without the "U"; THREE might be a miscommunication with the Dev department, but certainly not a typo.

 

[RevLogos]

Have you been back to the ruins to check your co-ords?
centre of the large circle - 31.7868 -128.9217. going by 32/128 seems a fair bit off. Sorry if i'm missed your reasoning for this, scrolling through these pages has become incredibly tedious as of late.

Manipulate the data to fit the theory. Works for global warming so why not?

Also as pointed out earlier any theory based on longitude will be rubbish. Latitude can tell us something, but not longitude.

 

[Ozric]

Also, public thread is public

Yes but there are still rules and guidelines that need to be followed in order to try and keep this ball of chaos from unravelling. A lot of what Arguendo says makes perfect sense, especially if you are trying to wade through dozens of pages if you can't read while you're at work.

We go through the same thing every time there's renewed interest and have done since Thread 4 at least.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

I am in agreement with this, I think its likely on the storyline wall FD had this season kinda planned out with a series of events and activities for us that would culminate in the discovery of the ruins possibly in a certain order leading into a new story arc. The incredible piece of work from Xdeath to locate what we call the "alpha" site ruins could well have thrown all this careful planning into the garbage requiring some major re-thinking of the story arc and the underlying development back at FDHQ.

We have, possibly, screwed up the plan on this one so bear that in mind with all the hate threads, its not like FD will come out and say "Yes, you messed this up for us" but there is a chance we did.

What do you think we have been doing. This was overdone on day 1 after the systems reveal but we have gotten nowhere, no concrete evidence what to look for. There are 5 million theories what we could look for.
Ranging from moons of ringed dwarfs to planets with moons to planets with 300K surface temperature to planets which are tidally locked to planets which rotate against their own axis. We have no concrete information what to look for. If we would have 2 or 3 planets to compare them and find a pattern, that would be easier. But with 1 planet it's impossible. But if you have any ideas, let us know.

I'm only supporting this via this thread, but it strikes me there are 4 pillars with relics on the top, and Ram Tah suggests 4 new systems to search; I don't think this is likely to be concidemtal. To me that means the pillars are part of the comms network and the obelisks are the library store of the Guardians. Hence the clue to the other ruin sites must lie in the pillars.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the pillars carry glyphs on their bases but they are the same for each pillar. I don't think anyone has noted any differences in markings/size etc of the pillars. In that case could we have a set of hi-res close up pictures (from several angles of each one) of the relics at the top ? Cmdr Thatchinho posted a set for one pillar recently & I think there are some internal marks that might be relevant.

 

[Ozric]

Anyone seen this "thing" underneath the ruins?

It has been discussed many times and it is indeed "out of game". Possibly used for attaching sounds to.

 

[Tigorath]

I would like to add a scientific observation. I have just landed back at the original site and found that 'looking' via the turret on an SRV at the Ancient Relics mounted in their pillars makes an extra sound. A little like a haunted eailing sound. As soon as you turn away its gone.
To me thats a directional indication.

I originally returned here to see if direct sunlight refracted prism like through these mysterious relics would reveal something. Alas, its dark. .

 

[Ozric]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the pillars carry glyphs on their bases but they are the same for each pillar. I don't think anyone has noted any differences in markings/size etc of the pillars. In that case could we have a set of hi-res close up pictures (from several angles of each one) of the relics at the top ? Cmdr Thatchinho posted a set for one pillar recently & I think there are some internal marks that might be relevant.

Last time I checked they all had the same ting inside.

Spoiler

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

We still only have 13 legit data packets from the first ruins, though, so if there are only two more, they'd have to give 44 data packets each (which I suppose is technically possible, but it doesn't seem likely).

Unless what we're looking for is a "switch" of some kind that activates the open/PG bugged obelisks in solo mode, which again is possible since those obelisks are coded to activate and give data.

A couple of guys recently suggested that switch could be to do with the ships & how they are being used in open/pg to carry artefacts & have been landed within the site. Sounds like it could be feasible but doesn't seem like that suggestion has been pursued by anybody.

 

[Justicar_Thorn]

Yes but there are still rules and guidelines that need to be followed in order to try and keep this ball of chaos from unravelling. A lot of what Arguendo says makes perfect sense, especially if you are trying to wade through dozens of pages if you can't read while you're at work.

We go through the same thing every time there's renewed interest and have done since Thread 4 at least.

I never said it wasn't. But telling people not to bother posting untested ideas isn't helping, if anything it's stunting the formation of other ideas. Heck 100% of ideas in this thread have been wrong, so why stop people now?

Just saying. It came off a bit holier than thou, and there already isn't enough people working on this, why chastise those who try?

 

[xXxSatelliteNetxXx]

Good Morning!>
4 Days straight of trying to solve this, i apparently attempted to solve the puzzle in my dreams last night. and it's amazing when you remember the dream in vivid detail, I have some new ideas to put to the test today.

On the other side of the spectrum i am really also getting tired of not being sure if im even on the right planet half the time, almost ready to throw in the towel, But first i will try these new ideas.

I still strongly believe that two circles at the ruins represent a Planet and it's orbital body (satellite / moon)
and the lines connecting can be the orbital path OR potentially our entry points on the planets.
I am thinking we should be checking the landable moons of these planets.

If the small circles on the big circles represent Poles, (N / S) and the horizontal lines can be good indicators as to landing (W/E) if there is a way to identify West or East.

For example, the small circle on the bottom left of the ruins has a smaller inner circle which is offset Slightly, lets pretend that's a titled axis, so the (North) pole is off center a little, and i will be using the Left (west) and right (East) line as a potenial (Waypoint) to check out. on the moons

Maybe some of you geniuses can refine my idea.
thanks