Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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AdmlAdama

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666Savior said:
currently circumnavigating planet 2 of the 119 system on heading 258.75. Hopefully i find something

also, side thought, does anyone know of a realtime spectrograph software? thinking of running it off of sound output and overlaying it on my screen. Make it easier to see if im getting close to something
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I couldn't really find one for windows that worked. I resorted to using audacity and leaving record on while using spectrograph mode. But I couldn't get it to work with a YouTube video of the UP image and kind of gave up.

If you have any luck (or find one that works with an iPad from PC) let me know.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Cmdr Shijima said:
I too agree with this idea, mainly because Ram Tah refers to the 'network', which would imply they are all essentially equal in nature (no?).
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I suspect what we are seeing here is something like a cell network, where each station is connected to a couple of neighbouring stations & they forward message data between themselves. So if we find the 4 that Ram Tah supposes then I think each of those could give us more stations. The trick is to be able to decode the other stations' locations which we haven't managed to do yet; finding another station will give us something for comparison with the first which will help to identify differences & therefore location information, but until then we are guessing.....
 
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ExoForce

ExoForce
Megacrafter127 said:
Back at the known ruins, I took a closer look at the relics, and noticed a pattern of triangles akin to the one formed by the blinking triangles on active obelisks while in scanning range.
The images were taken with classified camera, so excuse the clipping.
Original Images:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6x1bmkeyo8pe9f5/20170127182518_1.jpg?dl=1https://www.dropbox.com/s/95kgm5bf1ynvixo/20170127182646_1.jpg?dl=1
Reduced saturation of cyan for better visibility:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n8jfku8p0f64f7a/20170127182518_1_e.png?dl=1https://www.dropbox.com/s/fejklfcde7pdijz/20170127182646_1_e.png?dl=1
Having such a pattern blink on the obelisks kinda makes them stand out, so I think there is a reason why a fixed form of them is on the relics, although I don't yet know what to make of them.

If the light the relics emit wasn't so blinding, I am sure these patterns would have been noticed before.
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It is just a baby UP.

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Dont look inside. You will get Paraidolia.
 
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Vasco Sapien

Vasco Sapien
Jorki Rasalas said:
I suspect what we are seeing here is something like a cell network, where each station is connected to a couple of neighbouring stations & they forward message data between themselves. So if we find the 4 thar Ram Tah supposes then ai think each of those could give us more stations. The trick is to be able to decode the other stations' locations which we haven't managed to do yet; finding another station will give us something for comparison with the first which will help to identify differences & therefore location information, but until then we are guessing.....
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You mean like a A unicast forwarding pattern, and each site has a design variation depending on its location characteristics.

In reality those kind of notations would be logical and not physical, but then this is a game puzzle.
 
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Bryan K

Bryan K
Neil_Trayce said:
probably a typo, or one is the clue for all three, and there are 3 unknown sites. but after their newsletter about ship packs I'm not surprised.

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Please scan alpha for materials and tell if it has mercury, arsenic or ruthenium.
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Here are the mats for the planet with the alpha site:

Iron(19.7%)
Sulfur(18.9%)
Carbon(15.9%)
Nickel(14.9%)
Phosphorus(10.2%)
Manganese(8.2%)
Germanium(5.8%)
Arsenic(2.5%)
Cadmium(1.5%)
Tellurium(1.4%)
Tungsten(1.1%)

Sadly, no ruthenium or mercury.
 
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Starstrydur

Starstrydur
I have noticed that sometimes the pillars raise up with one of the 3 supports around the blue relic missing. The missing support seems to be pointing inwards and not outwards relative to the site.

So lets say 3 data downloads then a pillar. 2nd. 3rd. fourth. Then one more to fire the whole site up? Could it be that activating certain data points in a certain order along with the pillars might trigger the relics to project a beam like connection to other points at the site?
 

walaykin

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CMDR Dreamstate said:
Because -31.7868 -128.9217 is what is considered the socially accepted number as that is what is presented to everyone - in reality, it was the co-ordinates from wherever the CMDR's ar$e was parked at the time when recording the ruin site.

Evening the numbers to 32 by 128 keeps the co-ordinates really simple (and, from high up, doesn't make any difference between -31.7868 -128.9217). 32 and 128 are bits in computing, so I think that is what we should be focusing on: 32/64/128 - all of which are covered in my diagram, below. I think using the -31.7868 -128.9217 co-ordinates is a mistake, and the true value is -32 by -128, because that would make sense for a species and culture that revered AI and developed computing and loved geometry and symmetry.

http://i.imgur.com/hw0OoZJ.jpg
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For what it's worth, as others have said I think you're attaching way too much importance to this 32/128 thing because those numbers are only that value in human units, with a human-defined meridian.

Unless you can explain why the guardians are using degrees and the exact same meridian as humans living hundreds or thousands of years later, I'm afraid I'm not convinced.
 

CMDRDethalis

CMDRDethalis
Megacrafter127 said:
Back at the known ruins, I took a closer look at the relics, and noticed a pattern of triangles akin to the one formed by the blinking triangles on active obelisks while in scanning range.
The images were taken with classified camera, so excuse the clipping.
Original Images:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6x1bmkeyo8pe9f5/20170127182518_1.jpg?dl=1https://www.dropbox.com/s/95kgm5bf1ynvixo/20170127182646_1.jpg?dl=1
Reduced saturation of cyan for better visibility:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n8jfku8p0f64f7a/20170127182518_1_e.png?dl=1https://www.dropbox.com/s/fejklfcde7pdijz/20170127182646_1_e.png?dl=1
Having such a pattern blink on the obelisks kinda makes them stand out, so I think there is a reason why a fixed form of them is on the relics, although I don't yet know what to make of them.

If the light the relics emit wasn't so blinding, I am sure these patterns would have been noticed before.
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do all 4 relics have the same patterns on the same sides?
 

SpaceGoblin

SpaceGoblin
In the interest of adding a reference point, with no axe to grind, here is the centre-point of the ruins:

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-31.795
-128.945

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I also add that I dropped a relic into space in orbit above the site just now, targeted it, honked it with my ADS, no response.
 
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Straha Yeagar

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walaykin said:
For what it's worth, as others have said I think you're attaching way too much importance to this 32/128 thing because those numbers are only that value in human units, with a human-defined meridian.

Unless you can explain why the guardians are using degrees and the exact same meridian as humans living hundreds or thousands of years later, I'm afraid I'm not convinced.
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The 32/128 number aren't even valid in human terms because they were rounded incorrectly...unless they were rounded using never before seen, previously undiscovered mathematical rules and principles.
 

Stillsober

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Hi guys.
I'm in IC 2391 sector ze-a d101
Out of all these planets the one that appears to be interesting is C3
It's quite similar to the known site.
I'm going to dedicate as much time as I can on this planet.
If anyone wants to join me on xbox would be cool.

GT is stillsober2014
 
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kizcat

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danteuk said:
Text here hasn't changed and still lists four system.
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/58872def9657ba9230f89d99

Also Micheal Brooks did not say only getting 13 was correct what he actually said is
"The behaviour for solo sounds correct, but the open situation sounds like it's revealing more than it should. We'll look into it, but I don't think you're missing anything that should be able to...
open is showing more than it should. You can still get the scans elsewhere. "

I still believe there should be a way to get 15 scans from the first ruins site as there are 15 obelisks active, it makes no sense at all to have an active obelisk that can be scanned but have it return no data.
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Sorry, just going back to this, and i've not been back to the ruins since the start of the Ram Tah mission (because of combat pvpers but we shall ignore them). - So I might be a bit out of date on this one...

But at the time, people were reporting that once they had done a full lap of the oblesks on Solo and got the 13 data points, and tried the other oblesks (which no data was collected from) people were experiencing a CTD. Has anyone tried to go alone on solo and collect the data again following this pattern? Because I am wondering if the ruins actually do something or something changes once everything is successfully scanned, that maybe we've missed. (clue wise)
 

zorbaq

zorbaq
straha20 said:
The 32/128 number aren't even valid in human terms because they were rounded incorrectly...unless they were rounded using never before seen, previously undiscovered mathematical rules and principles.
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Also GUARDIANS use RADIANS not degrees ;)
 
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Harry Kruth

Harry Kruth
CMDR Dreamstate said:
Because -31.7868 -128.9217 is what is considered the socially accepted number as that is what is presented to everyone - in reality, it was the co-ordinates from wherever the CMDR's ar$e was parked at the time when recording the ruin site.

Evening the numbers to 32 by 128 keeps the co-ordinates really simple (and, from high up, doesn't make any difference between -31.7868 -128.9217). 32 and 128 are bits in computing, so I think that is what we should be focusing on: 32/64/128 - all of which are covered in my diagram, below. I think using the -31.7868 -128.9217 co-ordinates is a mistake, and the true value is -32 by -128, because that would make sense for a species and culture that revered AI and developed computing and loved geometry and symmetry.

http://i.imgur.com/hw0OoZJ.jpg
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Hello. I went to exactly -32, -128 on the first found ruins, and it's pretty far from the actual ruins, you can't even see it from there, I think. (I'm pretty bad at looking)

A boring 20 minute video exists if you want to see me faffing about after looking at -32,-128, before finding the actual ruins (I'm pretty bad at navigating): https://youtu.be/hcbJlg1FfJk (I'm pretty bad at video quality)

Also, the ruins graphically bugged out for me (14 minutes into the boring video clip), the obelisks were not inside the ruins but next to it. Reloading game fixed it, but it makes me wonder just how hard it will be to find ruins, if that can happen maybe there are other graphical glitches like that, etc. Here's a pic of the glitch: https://i.imgur.com/o46AAHa.jpg

:)

Edit: I missed reading the "allow for some margin of error" bit on your diagram..
 
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