Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[gaplant]

People trying to figure out the ruins as a diagram to the other sites: If it's a map to all of the other sites and we're expecting the other sites to have the same ground shapes and/or same obelisk layout, then the ruins probably should indicate where all the ruins are, INCLUDING THE ONE WE HAVE.

If you have some theory for finding where the other sites are, test it by finding the site we already know! Otherwise we're assuming that this site was the one we were meant to find first. All we really know is that it's the site Frontier used to make the trailer that one time.

 

[Lobey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsvtDBAmwOY

If i said Sierpinski gasket or triangle, would there be anyone out there that might have a clue -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierpinski_triangle

It's the readouts, we have to break those and Ram Tah has given us the key - the systems he named how do they relate to the data displayed ?


More biscuits required.

 

[The_Sprite]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsvtDBAmwOY

If i said Sierpinski gasket or triangle, would there be anyone out there that might have a clue -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierpinski_triangle

It's the readouts, we have to break those and Ram Tah has given us the key - the systems he named how do they relate to the data displayed ?


More biscuits required.

I was checking that out last night alongside Pascal Triangles and also an Experimental Pascals Diamond.

Spoiler

Am currently stuck Math Wise.

 

[JamyThegreat]

I live just outside of Cambridge, it might be fun one launch time next week to turn up and ask them. Anyone else game?

madwax....

I'm down for that, live just outside of Cambs as well

 

[Suteksio]

Music is muted of course. Its just set to night time mode.

Well, with music turned off I only hear the ship's engines and nothing else except the occasional ambient sound. For me it sounds different enough to the usual sound to investigate the area further.

 

[Dibble]

I live just outside of Cambridge, it might be fun one launch time next week to turn up and ask them. Anyone else game?

madwax....

Ive got next week off as a holiday so we could go down and demonstrate like father ted and dougal did in father ted. outside their offices
"down with this sort of thing"
"steady now"

take them a cake in the shape and decorated like the ruins with chocolate biscuits

- - - Updated - - -

no just kidding Ive better things to do

 

[Lobey]

I was checking that out last night alongside Pascal Triangles and also an Experimental Pascals Diamond.

Spoiler

http://www.lews-garage.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/pascal1.png

Am currently stuck Math Wise.

Extra "creep" factor for how in the Wikipedia article it links to cellular automata - as someone said earlier , this isn't the Gaurdians - it's their AI - and we just woke it up. ("brain trees" harvesting resources to bring the "ruins" back online ? )

 

[iamgingerbear]

I hear some sort of ambient noises flying near surface, is it normal ? http://www.mediafire.com/file/3stiuxdkf2je815/ED_11.mp3

turn rotational correction off, it'll reduce your engine noise. listen again, it sounds standard other than that.

 

[Lobey]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternary_computer
Just throwing this up as well - feel I'm fumbling all round the edges of something - hopefully spark an idea in someone else

 

[madwax]

I'm down for that, live just outside of Cambs as well

Cool I'll pm you later about which day I can make, I work out Royston/Melbourn way so getting in takes a while or I work (sorry play ED) from home

madwax....

 

[Muetdhiver]

A very strong hunch as dibble said - they like 3 - they count in base 3.

Indeed. But that would mean ternary system, and the obelisk pattern is binary (triangles are on or off).
You can off course encore ternary on binary, with two bits for one trit.

something like :

• 0 => 00 00
• 1 => 00 01
• 2 => 00 10
• 3 => 01 00

With such encoding string like 00 11 are not possible of course. Since the patterns contain lines like 11 11,
if find this hypothesis likely disproved.

When looking at the pattern 96 states, what is striking is that :

• most consecutive states differ by 1-3 triangles states over 108.
• using ixalon weppage, one can see that the #1 pillar pattern appears in block1, block2 and nearly block3 for states 12-14

This did not get me anywhere, so far. I still think that the 5 pillars markings + relic symbol + pattern is the puzzle. Also, 5 sites, 5 pillar markings.

 

[Factabulous]

I have heard far more with music off. Sometimes there are some tracks in the ambience which you could classify as music. I play with music turned off 100% of my playtime and for me I don't hear anything in his audio clip which is unusual or which I haven't heard before.

Seconded, ambient sound, nothing special. Caught me out first time as well. Classified as sound effects, which is why you still hear it with music off.

 

[Liet Atreides]

turn rotational correction off, it'll reduce your engine noise. listen again, it sounds standard other than that.

I turned it off and set 0 throttle, I fly with rotational correction off for some time.
Only signatures I find is random blue dots with metals or salvage.

Seconded, ambient sound, nothing special. Caught me out first time as well. Classified as sound effects, which is why you still hear it with music off.

Its just weird. I didn't hear it until set to Night Time.

 

[hitchhiker54]

Tinfoil #1400 FDev are on a recruiting drive, anyone solving it gets an interview

 

[sorcer3r]

Someone has a picture with the ruins and magnetic heading / compass ?

 

[allocater]

Ternary/Binary would go like this:

Decimal 	1 	2 	3 	4 	5 	6 	7 	8 	9
Ternary 	1 	2 	10 	11 	12 	20 	21 	22 	100
Binary  	1 	10 	11 	100 	101 	110 	111 	1000 	1001

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternary_numeral_system

 

[ExoForce]

If i said Sierpinski gasket or triangle, would there be anyone out there that might have a clue -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierpinski_triangle
More biscuits required.

I would say You are *** dam bloody close. Look beyond.

 

[Lobey]

Indeed. But that would mean ternary system, and the obelisk pattern is binary (triangles are on or off).
You can off course encore ternary on binary, with two bits for one trit.

something like :

• 0 => 00 00
• 1 => 00 01
• 2 => 00 10
• 3 => 01 00

With such encoding string like 00 11 are not possible of course. Since the patterns contain lines like 11 11,
if find this hypothesis likely disproved.

When looking at the pattern 96 states, what is striking is that :

• most consecutive states differ by 1-3 triangles states over 108.
• using ixalon weppage, one can see that the #1 pillar pattern appears in block1, block2 and nearly block3 for states 12-14

This did not get me anywhere, so far. I still think that the 5 pillars markings + relic symbol + pattern is the puzzle.

I'm not sure it is binary - to me it looks like banks of overlapping "large" triangles each made up of 3 groups of smaller triangles - this "smallest" unit or "cell" has within it 3 triangles which can represent three possible values within that "cell" - I think this https://ixalon.github.io/elitedangerous/ shows a Ternary computer layout read from top to bottom - equivalent to our familiar http://imgur.com/a1HHBdH

My maths is pretty ropey - but I know computers - and that's a Ternary output led screen if ever I saw one.

 

[Muetdhiver]

I'm not sure it is binary - to me it looks like banks of overlapping "large" triangles each made up of 3 groups of smaller triangles - this "smallest" unit or "cell" has within it 3 triangles which can represent three possible values within that "cell" - I think this https://ixalon.github.io/elitedangerous/ shows a Ternary computer layout read from top to bottom - equivalent to our familiar http://imgur.com/a1HHBdH

Well, that easy enough to check : if the sub triangles (3t3) show recuring patterns, it would certainly be a strong clue that your hypothesis is correct.

But at first sight (check it) it does not seem to be the case.

On the other hand, the active/inactive map for block2 and block3 is very symmetrical. Rather striking.

 

[CMDR MadRaptor]

With all these Brain Tree sites found my Alien Life section of the guide is beginning to see some life of it's own so I thought I'd take this time so share the link so if you come across any of these sites you can add them here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VY8_lV0AZZOwILxcP3Z-osDOTnFd8yHmzma7vkH6nhc/edit#gid=0

There is already a link to the main guide itself on the FP of this thread so you can check out everything we have to offer as well.

Again feel free to add your own brain tree sites if you find them or anything else of geological interest here too.

Back to the hunt!

FLY SAFE!