Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

CMDRDethalis · Jan 29, 2017

CMDR Dreamstate said:
could you get a screenshot of the planet details please???

I want to know the differences between this new planet and the old one!

p.s. thanks for the inside ruins co-ords

I don't think I was far off in my drawing it is almost 32 by 32 so good to know all the locations I've been searching on 11 B aren't fruitless, as I always deviate by at least 4 latitude/longitude in a circular pattern to make sure I don't miss anything:

Synuefe ZL-J d10-119
• 11 B
 -32.XXXX / -64.XXXX (60-68 – 28-34)
 -64.XXXX / -32.XXXX (60-68 – 28-34)
 64.XXXX / 32.XXXX (60-68 – 28-34)
 32.XXXX / 64.XXXX (60-68 – 28-34)
 -32.XXXX / 64.XXXX
 -64.XXXX / 32.XXXX
 64.XXXX / -32.XXXX
 32.XXXX / -64.XXXX
 -32.XXXX / 128.XXXX
 -32.XXXX / -128.XXXX
 32.XXXX / 128.XXXX
 32.XXXX / -128.XXXX
 -64.XXXX / -128.XXXX
 64.XXXX / -128.XXXX
 -64.XXXX / 128.XXXX
 64.XXXX / 128.XXXX
 -32.XXXX / -32.XXXX
 32.XXXX / 32.XXXXX
 -32.XXXX / 32.XXXX
 32.XXXX / -32.XXXX
 -64.XXXX / -64.XXXX
 -64.XXXX / 64.XXXX
 64.XXXX / -64.XXXX
 64.XXXX / 64.XXXX

I do not have a surface scanner on this ship... sorry...

DarKourS · Jan 29, 2017

Hello everyone and GG for the new site

Sorry google translation i am french

I often watch this post for guardian info
2/3 small question
Had you tested binary, octal, dec, hex ??? "Code ASCII"
On the new site of ruin, is there the same number of To, Ta, U, C, O; That the first site "Alpha"
With my team we bet that the new site sits at the first

There must necessarily be something that changes
Now that there is a new site it is necessary to find a relation between the two forces a logic

And congratulations to the Zorbaq

CMDRDethalis · Jan 29, 2017

gooddoc said:
Yes, but in Solo does it provide the same 13 sets as the original ruins. Maybe this puzzle is meant to be solved in Solo! just a thought

So far as i can tell yes but i have not tried it much other than G18 casket... gave me the same data i already had... and increased my mission payout by 1 mil...

SpaceGoblin · Jan 29, 2017

QorbeQ said:
A moon you say...?

Indeed! I'm interested to know if it lines up like the original site with its moon.

I wish I'd had my course set when I took my initial moonrise picture - it looks like the central ridge points at the new system as the moon rises!
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EDIT: Originally posted with wrong target system selected. Derp. Fixed that for me!

CMDR Dreamstate · Jan 29, 2017

CMDRDethalis said:
I do not have a surface scanner on this ship... sorry...

Np mate!

What planet number is it? I just see "B" in the screeny ??

Oenta · Jan 29, 2017

CMDR Dreamstate said:
could you get a screenshot of the planet details please???

I want to know the differences between this new planet and the old one!

p.s. thanks for the inside ruins co-ords

I don't think I was far off in my drawing it is almost 32 by 32 so good to know all the locations I've been searching on 11 B aren't fruitless, as I always deviate by at least 4 latitude/longitude in a circular pattern to make sure I don't miss anything:

Synuefe ZL-J d10-119
• 11 B
 -32.XXXX / -64.XXXX (60-68 – 28-34)
 -64.XXXX / -32.XXXX (60-68 – 28-34)
 64.XXXX / 32.XXXX (60-68 – 28-34)
 32.XXXX / 64.XXXX (60-68 – 28-34)
 -32.XXXX / 64.XXXX
 -64.XXXX / 32.XXXX
 64.XXXX / -32.XXXX
 32.XXXX / -64.XXXX
 -32.XXXX / 128.XXXX
 -32.XXXX / -128.XXXX
 32.XXXX / 128.XXXX
 32.XXXX / -128.XXXX
 -64.XXXX / -128.XXXX
 64.XXXX / -128.XXXX
 -64.XXXX / 128.XXXX
 64.XXXX / 128.XXXX
 -32.XXXX / -32.XXXX
 32.XXXX / 32.XXXXX
 -32.XXXX / 32.XXXX
 32.XXXX / -32.XXXX
 -64.XXXX / -64.XXXX
 -64.XXXX / 64.XXXX
 64.XXXX / -64.XXXX
 64.XXXX / 64.XXXX

Yeah I think you are on the right path... The whole ruin site speaks "triangular shapes everywhere" So we basically we have to think in triangles.

But our compass is maybe far more accurate then the guardians... so not 360 degrees.. maybe 150 degrees... i dont know. so 32/32 coordinates can be 29/30 also.. 34/35.
It doesnt need to be that precise maybe.

Pumabear8 · Jan 29, 2017

gooddoc said:
Yes, but in Solo does it provide the same 13 sets as the original ruins. Maybe this puzzle is meant to be solved in Solo! just a thought

Are you trying to start world war 3? we know it's working correctly in solo as stated by Micheal, and that open/pg was getting too much information, if that is the case, it should have been fixed before the next site was found.

I expected to find 'similar' I didn't expect a carbon copy.

Cmdr Edard · Jan 29, 2017

Pumabear8 said:
Are you trying to start world war 3? we know it's working correctly in solo as stated by Micheal, and that open/pg was getting too much information, if that is the case, it should have been fixed before the next site was found.

I expected to find 'similar' I didn't expect a carbon copy.

Agreed, if its another mistake, I'm moving to something else... I hear No Mans Sky is good (words i never wanted to say)

zarking · Jan 29, 2017

So, the guardians created a creature to fight for recreation, the thargoids. At some point the AI took control and used the thargoids in a war against the guardians (either as population control or to wipe out one "race" of the guardians).

The guardians abandoned their home world to look for a new home.

They built monolith outposts along the way.
The now rogue AI controlled thargoids tried to hunt them down. The guardians used a biological weapon to stop them and the thargoids retreated to maia to rebuild themselves. Later they emerged looking for the guardians and found us. The sirius mob somehow found the old guardians biological weapon and used it to defeat the thargoids again, maybe sirius were involved with the guardians at one time.

The AI managed to grow a new thargoid race, aided by an enemy of the guardians maybe. The AI and/or the guardians have already infiltrated humanity and will use us to fight for or against the guardians. There are probes spread around to hunt for signs of guardian or thargoid ships (depending what side controls this, I'm not sure yet).

Just rambling, but I think the story is in there somewhere lol.

MasoneTi · Jan 29, 2017

SYNUEFE ZL-J D10-119 7-D

LAT 41,24
LONG -98.53

34720F8F0EAA5F9DF29F98BF491E7852EE91D26D

CMDRDethalis · Jan 29, 2017

leprotravel said:
Wow! It looks like I correctly figured out the system, but I was wrong with the planet http://i.imgur.com/1JgM8i0.jpg

CMDR Aurynn said:
To me it looks exactly the same including the placement of the items... and broken walls... well... thats strange...

CHOPP3R said:
Bingo ;-)

zorbaq said:
I have no theory. It was a combination of primarily luck (my candidate actually was the largest planet in that system but I switched after giving up on it early), brute force and spidey sense. Having an excel spreadsheet with haversine formula and a matrix of lat/long for tracking my brute force progress helped immensely.

Pumabear8 said:
The whole site being a map is certainly out of the question since this is identical to the first, but the large keys(with other clues) could be cross references, where they intersect? 3 sites would be required to pinpoint a location in 3D space.

I like this thought... if we find a third it should help us trangulate the next site to give us data or atleast where we should go...

Suteksio · Jan 29, 2017

Many congratulations on the find CMDR Zorbaq!!!

Now to the ships!

CMDR Aurynn · Jan 29, 2017

Well as to the same data - Its logical, isnt it? It has been clearly said that the network shares data across itself. Accessing more is the puzzle...

Same features? We use same features in outpost buildings and starport buildings. However the same wall breaches are unnerving a bit... Sloppy work if you ask me.

But... if this is intentional... its a sign that the architecture itself has no meaning to our search...

CMDRDethalis · Jan 29, 2017

leprotravel said:
Wow! It looks like I correctly figured out the system, but I was wrong with the planet http://i.imgur.com/1JgM8i0.jpg

CMDR Aurynn said:
To me it looks exactly the same including the placement of the items... and broken walls... well... thats strange...

CHOPP3R said:
Bingo ;-)

zorbaq said:
I have no theory. It was a combination of primarily luck (my candidate actually was the largest planet in that system but I switched after giving up on it early), brute force and spidey sense. Having an excel spreadsheet with haversine formula and a matrix of lat/long for tracking my brute force progress helped immensely.

Pumabear8 said:
The whole site being a map is certainly out of the question since this is identical to the first, but the large keys(with other clues) could be cross references, where they intersect? 3 sites would be required to pinpoint a location in 3D space.

CMDR Dreamstate said:
Np mate!

What planet number is it? I just see "B" in the screeny ??

The planet is B1

- - - Updated - - -

i think they placed the sites in a mannor so that we can triangulate the final site

iFred · Jan 29, 2017

Well, basically a copy/paste.

Now let´s see what new data we are able to find.

CMDRDethalis · Jan 29, 2017

iFred said:
Well, basically a copy/paste.

Now let´s see what new data we are able to find.

Same as first site so far

Euthanasia843 · Jan 29, 2017

Is clipping your camera underneath planet surfaces to find clues "cheating" or other wise frowned upon here?

SpaceGoblin · Jan 29, 2017

CMDRDethalis said:
Same as first site so far

Indeed, but is that the same as original in solo, or original in open/group. We know there was a discrepancy at the original site between game modes, which was confirmed as "not working as intended" for all but solo.

a_snail · Jan 29, 2017

If it helps these are the active portals that I found on IC 2391 Sector GW-V b2-4 B 1:

A03
B06
C03 C13 C35 C38
D09
E01 E26 E34
F04
G17 G18 G19 G20

Pumabear8 · Jan 29, 2017

CMDR Aurynn said:
Well as to the same data - Its logical, isnt it? It has been clearly said that the network shares data across itself. Accessing more is the puzzle...

Same features? We use same features in outpost buildings and starport buildings. However the same wall breaches are unnerving a bit... Sloppy work if you ask me.

But... if this is intentional... its a sign that the architecture itself has no meaning to our search...

Not just the walls, the artifacts are the same position, the relic towers are in the same position, the obelisks are all positioned the same, so far I've used the original site map to find my way around this 2nd site