Gunner = Arcade Action Cam for the 12 yr olds?

[CylonSurfer]

So you are arguing basic 1200 year old technology is lost technology in the Elite universe? You are kinda dodging him here, he is explicitly saying it's not 'cheap', it's literally the way things are going right here on Earth, right now. It's not a loaded question, it's a fact

Also I don't know why you think anyone is going to be forcing you to play in a third person view. Just don't play as a gunner!

Incidentally, sir, do you play in Open? Think carefully, because this IS a loaded question.

I do - never loaded solo mode ever. Never really PVP'd unless I've had to.

For how much this argument is going on how does this personally affect you and your game. How does this prevent you from playing and make it so the game is unplayable. Far as I can tell this camera argument will not effect anyone and the argument is nothing more then a circle of people yelling. If this effects you explain how in the game it will because all your doing is talking about it not being lore friendly. It's a game man let fdev develop.

I purchased this game due to it being first person, I purchased this season to use the new content. I did so in faith that this game wouldn't as the devs themselves stated, use third person cameras.

. . . Yup, I just logged in, and it turns out there is, in fact, a first person space flight experience and it is, in fact, the default experience. It looks to me that the game you bought, a first person experience with a focus on first person gameplay, is 100% there, mission accomplished.

Until I want to use my SRV to scan something or in the future wish to use a turret. Odd being a first person game which stated it would remain that way don't you think? Or are you going to confuse "in game" with the actual camera used by the game?

 

[ED_Spider]

How does this effect you. How does this ruin the game by adding a Gunners turret.

 

[Kermit Laphroaig]

I do - never loaded solo mode ever. Never really PVP'd unless I've had to.

Good, at least you're arguing from a position of integrity!

I changed my mind, I decided we're going to be friends instead.

Wanna be on my crew? Legit offer. My references are I actually sound like Kermit the Frog, for added verisimilitude. It'll be great, we can even bring my biomorphic companion. Hell, you already make bosom companions.

 

[ED_Spider]

Btw the turret on the srv is literally a camera attached to it. I don't understand how you don't realize that.

 

[CylonSurfer]

Ha - anytime but I'm not a turret man...

 

[Soulkiller]

I like how they implemented it from what I have seen. I am not interested in this realism/no immersion kind of thinking in Elite's world (i.e. yes I voted for instant transfers sadly we lost ). What I am looking for in the game is fun, and that gunner role looks very fun [up].

 

[CylonSurfer]

Btw the turret on the srv is literally a camera attached to it. I don't understand how you don't realize that.

Again someone who doesn't know the difference between "in game" and the camera used by the game. The turret is a third person camera, the first person camera is used by the player model, you are transferred to the third person camera when you enter the turret, at which point your view point magically floats behind the turret for no gameplay reason what so ever. It could have easily been an actual manned turret - in first person, but its not. Cheap and lazy in a first person focused title.

 

[ED_Spider]

No your not it's a physical camera with a HUD part of it on the turret

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Your argument makes no sense in any way at all. Everything your saying is wrong about the srv camera and can be best summed up as I don't like it. For all you know your visor comes down in the srv and you see out of the turret. That literally makes more sense then what your saying.

 

[Paramemetic]

I purchased this game due to it being first person, I purchased this season to use the new content. I did so in faith that this game wouldn't as the devs themselves stated, use third person cameras.

The game is first person. The third person modes are optional. The camera on top of your SRV turret is no less first person than your navigational computer, which is to say, it is entirely first person. And, that aside, the game you bought, in your own words, is "primarily first person." Which, well, it is. The main gameplay experience remains first person.

Until I want to use my SRV to scan something or in the future wish to use a turret. Odd being a first person game which stated it would remain that way don't you think? Or are you going to confuse "in game" with the actual camera used by the game?

It is a first person game, do you think that every single aspect of a game has to be first person for it to be first person? What if, in the game, your character were to enter a virtual reality simulation where you were controlling something from the third person?

Because that is literally what is happening here, your CMDR literally is seeing, in first person, what you see when you enter the navigational computer, or the SRV turret camera, or gunner mode. You never leave first person. That is in fact the experience people have in VR - entirely first person, as if they were there.

And it still doesn't mean anything at all that there are some third person elements in a first person game, because the game remains mainly a first person game, which is what you bought.

 

[CylonSurfer]

No your not it's a physical camera with a HUD part of it on the turret

lol. Its a third person camera, like the ones used in GTA positoned behind the turret as a low effort excuse for a turret mode. They couldn't be bothered or afford to do it properly and model a manned turret with true first person perspective.

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The game is first person. The third person modes are optional. The camera on top of your SRV turret is no less first person than your navigational computer, which is to say, it is entirely first person. And, that aside, the game you bought, in your own words, is "primarily first person." Which, well, it is. The main gameplay experience remains first person.





It is a first person game, do you think that every single aspect of a game has to be first person for it to be first person? What if, in the game, your character were to enter a virtual reality simulation where you were controlling something from the third person?

Because that is literally what is happening here, your CMDR literally is seeing, in first person, what you see when you enter the navigational computer, or the SRV turret camera, or gunner mode. You never leave first person. That is in fact the experience people have in VR - entirely first person, as if they were there.

And it still doesn't mean anything at all that there are some third person elements in a first person game, because the game remains mainly a first person game, which is what you bought.

In a game which sold itself as a first person title in the midst of third person titles of the same ilk, yes, it matters. We were told we would not see such things in this game.

 

[ED_Spider]

You ignore everything we are saying. For all you know it's a visor over your face in game and there's a small sensor on the turret. And either way it doesn't matter because it doesn't hurt anything other then your opinion it seems

 

[Flytrap]

In a game which sold itself as a first person title in the midst of third person titles of the same ilk, yes, it matters. We were told we would not see such things in this game.

When, exactly? Who said specifically that such things would never be seen in this game? Can you link this please?

 

[CylonSurfer]

You ignore everything we are saying. For all you know it's a visor over your face in game and there's a small sensor on the turret. And either way it doesn't matter because it doesn't hurt anything other then your opinion it seems

Lol. Seems the other way around to me, looking at this thread and the number of reps at the top of my screen.... Sure people are going to disagree, but I was sold a first person game and would like to see it stay that way. I didnt buy a game with mixed view perspectives because I didnt want one.

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When, exactly? Who said specifically that such things would never be seen in this game? Can you link this please?

Take a look back through the thread. Hell type 3rd person elite dangerous into google and look at the results... Many, many many people with confidence saying this day would never come including devs.

It is a first person game, do you think that every single aspect of a game has to be first person for it to be first person

Errrrmmm. Well. Yes - of course....

 

[Nuarb]

In a game which sold itself as a first person title in the midst of third person titles of the same ilk, yes, it matters. We were told we would not see such things in this game.

It's 100% first person in elite at all times, including the gunner cam.

I'll give you a real life example, I put on a VR headset, and I play a game called Edge of Nowhere. Now, this game takes place from a 3rd person perspective, I see the back of my character, HOWEVER my life, is still first person... obviously. This is the same as elite, you are first person, viewing a VR simulation, no different than I live my life in first person, but can wear a headset and visualize something from a 3rd person perspective.

 

[Scruffman]

but I was sold a first person game and would like to see it stay that way. I didnt buy a game with mixed view perspectives because I didnt want one.

A'ight. Don't play as a gunner then.

 

[ED_Spider]

And maybe try not forcing incorrect statements and arguments about things you don't like on everyone. Your wrong about the srv and wrong about the first person nature of this game. Everything your saying devolved into a statement of I was promised first person only and this isn't what I backed. They should stick to what I want. Instead of fdev improving the game you want to keep it as it is and letting it stagnant like many games of this type or in this stage of development.

 

[CylonSurfer]

It's 100% first person in elite at all times, including the gunner cam.

I'll give you a real life example, I put on a VR headset, and I play a game called Edge of Nowhere. Now, this game takes place from a 3rd person perspective, I see the back of my character, HOWEVER my life, is still first person... obviously. This is the same as elite, you are first person, viewing a VR simulation, no different than I live my life in first person, but can wear a headset and visualize something from a 3rd person perspective.

Edge of Nowhere.... ah yes. I own it. Out side of the great intro the game is very much a third person game, in fact it is one! Well done. This game was marketed as a do it from a first person perspective game.

 

[Flytrap]

Take a look back through the thread. Hell type 3rd person elite dangerous into google and look at the results... Many, many many people with confidence saying this day would never come including devs.

Then you should have no problems finding these, since you know where they can be found (or googling it) and posting them here to prove your point, instead of making people go on a wild chase around the internet looking for a specific statement by one company concerning one game.

Go on and post them please, I'll wait.

 

[CylonSurfer]

And maybe try not forcing incorrect statements and arguments about things you don't like on everyone. Your wrong about the srv and wrong about the first person nature of this game. Everything your saying devolved into a statement of I was promised first person only and this isn't what I backed. They should stick to what I want. Instead of fdev improving the game you want to keep it as it is and letting it stagnant like many games of this type or in this stage of development.

You are a funny guy. Been playing long? Purchased this game on the promise of what it would be? Nah... this game will stagnat when lots of instant gratification types leave for the next feast, then we're left with this rubbish.

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Then you should have no problems finding these, since you know where they can be found (or googling it) and posting them here to prove your point, instead of making people go on a wild chase around the internet looking for a specific statement by one company concerning one game.

Go on and post them please, I'll wait.

I did already, hence me saying you should read the thread.... I'm not doing it again for you...

 

[LeoBartlet]

You are a funny guy. Been playing long? Purchased this game on the promise of what it would be? Nah... this game will stagnat when lots of instant gratification types leave for the next feast, then we're left with this rubbish.

Im curious what exactly do you class as instant gratification?