Multicrew show allow owner to switch from the helm position

[CMDR Cylixx]

This isn't needed 100%

Maybe not 100% but a pretty solid 90-95% - explorers need this more than anyone if they are to make any meaningful use of multicrew, but everyone benefits from this functionality. Being a member of a crew is going to get tiresome and it will be desirable to switch roles between helm and others.

Depends really on how difficult it is to implement, I assume they would have planned to release it as such if they had time.

 

[Guywired]

If friends want to explore together, they can't take turns flying the ship when someone gets tired.

This right here. I need this.

Frontier, make this happen.

My friends and I want a persistent crew experience with ED, not a throwaway match making experience we'll be bored with after the first week.

Don't let it become the new planetary landings where we can land on 60% of all planets but 99% of them are lifeless rocks.

 

[Pumabear8]

Swapping roles, yes!
Got a good friend, maybe even a spouse on another pc/console? this would make exploration more palatable, initially I enjoyed the black, but you soon become aware that the only other company you have is the computer voice, and boy does it get repetitive, to have company in the form of a friend or spouse, and them able to take the helm while you kick back or the other way around, that would be great.

 

[Jdude1]

This vote is a mute point. Eventually we'll be able to move all around any position. I voted no for one reason and one reason only. The "Self Destruct" button is on the helm controls. If you allow people to switch to any chair then rich griefers will start joining this "crew Queue" and waiting till the ship owner vacates then self destructing their ship. Frontier is probably saving development time for now by keeping ship owner in helm because they haven't figured out a way to enable and disable individual controls on the the screens yet. Hell even allowing the crew members to turn on silent running could potentially allow crew members to destroy your ship. Give an update or two and i'm sure there will be the option eventually.

 

[Mephane]

This vote is a mute point. Eventually we'll be able to move all around any position. I voted no for one reason and one reason only. The "Self Destruct" button is on the helm controls. If you allow people to switch to any chair then rich griefers will start joining this "crew Queue" and waiting till the ship owner vacates then self destructing their ship. Frontier is probably saving development time for now by keeping ship owner in helm because they haven't figured out a way to enable and disable individual controls on the the screens yet. Hell even allowing the crew members to turn on silent running could potentially allow crew members to destroy your ship. Give an update or two and i'm sure there will be the option eventually.

What you say essentially applies to SLFs as well. A crew mate could hop into the SLF, then attack and destroy your ship in a vulnerable moment. Or use the turrets as a gunner to shoot at a starport while you are docking.

 

[iamsoinsane]

I voted with everyone else, the ship owner should not be required to always be the helmsman.

However, I don't believe that any of this statement portrays FDev's final say in the matter. I just think they haven't had the time to build a full ownership system for the game or any sort of limited liability set up for crew. They're using existing mechanics (all from Horizons) to bring them all together, now that they have instancing mostly on point.

From what we've seen so far, the stated update is a bit disappointing, as nothing described here is actually new, except being able to lock missiles far wider than your average gimbal range.

My main concern hasn't really been discussed, yet. Right now, you can't deploy landing gear if you have a fighter launched. It basically eliminates any ability to have your NPC fighter pilot assist your base assault. If we can have 3 crew members, I'm going out on a limb and assuming that one ship will be able to deploy a fighter, SRV, and mothership at the same time. Limiting that capability would be absurd.

I have a feeling its more a development issue. They can't do these things on the current build of the engine, or they can not figure out how to implement these changes... Either that or they are afraid to make changes, they got into a comfort zone and are afraid to journey out of it.

 

[Kaocraft]

Wouldn't it be cool if the PLAYER CONTROLLED crewmember had at least as much authority over the ship as one of the NPC AI crewmembers? Is that TOTALLY unreasonable?

 

[LeopardEnthusiast]

I don't see why the helmsman role shouldn't be swappable. If I give someone untrustworthy control of my ship, and they blow it up, that should be entirely my problem to deal with - I'm the one who gave them control of the ship, not anyone else. I do think that the self destruct option should be locked out for anyone other than the owner, and that I should be able to kick people out of roles if I decide I don't like what they're doing, but not letting me give someone else control of the ship just seems restrictive.

 

[Oguska]

A big Yes!

 

[Olivia Vespera]

Hey folks thread has been unlocked. Discussion topics should focus on the post-Dev-Update information and soon the post-beta information.

We should also see if we're still interested in helm control as a whole so voice your support or condemnation here.

edit: I'll try and see if I can ask the mods to reopen the poll but no promises. Check back soon!

 

[Kyokushin]

In my opinion owner should be able to give control over ship to his crew.

It would be awesome to trolling. Some common known pve leader could hire for real money common known best pillot from common known school of magic then bait other common known players who are doing common known things on common known places.

 

[Vasea Azure]

"The owner should be allowed to give up Helmsman control to another player" - absolutely, I`m very surprise this isn't a thing. This would allow people to try ships that they dont yet own. Aslo as a helmsman I should be able to at least visit my other stations even in solo mode.
Please FD make it happen.

 

[Snarfbuckle]

This vote is a mute point. Eventually we'll be able to move all around any position. I voted no for one reason and one reason only. The "Self Destruct" button is on the helm controls. If you allow people to switch to any chair then rich griefers will start joining this "crew Queue" and waiting till the ship owner vacates then self destructing their ship. Frontier is probably saving development time for now by keeping ship owner in helm because they haven't figured out a way to enable and disable individual controls on the the screens yet. Hell even allowing the crew members to turn on silent running could potentially allow crew members to destroy your ship. Give an update or two and i'm sure there will be the option eventually.

This is SIMPLE.

- Co-Pilots can CONTROL the ship, Navigation and PIPS, not change or access menus on the ship.

 

[Duedy]

I know a few solo players who were hoping that turret control would come for them in 2.3. Even if it meant the ship flying a straight line while they used the turrets.

npc crew members seem to fly ok ish, let them fly and you take the turrets. let other players take over helm but they have the rebuy cost in escrow so if they kill the ship they pay for it.

 

[Maro-Val]

It would be nice and fair to see the poll opens again by the mods, as this thread was closed extremely early and we really need a big sample, for the devs to realize how important this is to explorers.

Edit: oh poll just reopened.

 

[Whitehair]

It would be nice and fair to see the poll opens again by the mods, as this thread was closed extremely early and we really need a big sample, for the devs to realize how important this is to explorers.

Huh?

Thread is open and so is the poll?

EDit - Oh I see. It has just been re-opened

 

[Olivia Vespera]

Huh?

Thread is open and so is the poll?

It was just reopened and the poll extended. When the thread was up the poll was closed till I asked the mods if they be willing.

 

[Genar-Hofoen]

I'm torn between voting Yes, and voting for No in this poll.

No, because I wouldn't like to trust anyone else to fly my, for example, ExploraCutter, and not plough it into the GROUND or into a star.

Yes, because yes indeed it seems like it would be a good idea for added gameplay for explorers.

So I'm stuck in the middle of the poll with no option I can click.

I'd swing to Yes, IF there was a Big Red Button for the ship owner to immediately and without delay, override the crew helmsman, in order to stop any potential stupidity from happening. (And then again, what if you're away for a bio-break and crew helmsman manages to do something really stupid when you're not looking? )

So difficult!

 

[Maro-Val]

I'm torn between voting Yes, and voting for No in this poll.

No, because I wouldn't like to trust anyone else to fly my, for example, ExploraCutter, and not plough it into the GROUND or into a star.

Yes, because yes indeed it seems like it would be a good idea for added gameplay for explorers.

So I'm stuck in the middle of the poll with no option I can click.

I'd swing to Yes, IF there was a Big Red Button for the ship owner to immediately and without delay, override the crew helmsman, in order to stop any potential stupidity from happening. (And then again, what if you're away for a bio-break and crew helmsman manages to do something really stupid when you're not looking? )

So difficult!

If they ever implement this, the only logical thing is to give the owner an option to gain back the helm with just one click at any time. It is allready like that when you are flying your fighter. One click and you are back to the captains seat.

 

[Olivia Vespera]

If they ever implement this, the only logical thing is to give the owner an option to gain back the helm with just one click at any time. It is allready like that when you are flying your fighter. One click and you are back to the captains seat.

Not only that but if you're a captain of your ship, one should take personal responsibilty of who you let onto your bridge. If you can't trust them to take helm, lock the helm controls to just you.

If you're willing to let them take helm, let them.

if they're no longer doing a good job, get back into the helm position with no fuss.

• Owner shouldn't have the authority to maintain control over their ship
• Can't get regain Helm control when they want
• There aren't inherent risks from letting someone fly your ship.

One of the key things shown in the multicrew livestream is the ability to decide what kind of multicrew session you want to host.

Whether it would be a by the books session or an outlaw session.

If it's a by the books session, crewmembers would be kicked out of the multicrew session if they attack or incur a bounty of your ship.