Be patient, my padawan. They still haven't shown the best of 2.3, yet.
For the sake of their sanity Fdev please. Throw Explorers a bone with this update.
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You know, I really hate when Developers say that.
So what, until now they've been showing us cr@p?.That doesn't say much for what they think of their players if they show off their worst, yet hide the good stuff for a "surprise"
I find it very condescending
Yeah, seriously. No Man's Sky is the prime example of WHY Frontier should be actively developing and marketing exploration in Elite. NMS sold incredibly well with pre-orders because it was a space exploration game, it only failed because 1) it was marketed with many, many lies, and 2) it failed to meet it's expectations. Frontier could tap into the market potential if they would just bother to develop the exploration side of the game. It would give them a huge market edge which would set them strongly apart from other space games like Star Citizen and more Elite inspired games.
So, here's your challenge.
Draw a line between Reorte and Reidquet, extend it to the edge of the galaxy. Now follow it until the stars thin out - then keep going! What's out there? No idea, but they thought the Thargoids were trouble...
Hint - in 2 years, we are as clueless as day one. Let's see how you go, tbough, maybe you'll crack it...
Now, those "discoveries" were placed there, by hand, and we were pretty much given a co-ordinate to go to. in a CG. They were nof there waiting to be found all along. Then, when someone stumbled upon a settlement, by blind luck... The game crashed to desktop. They didn't fix it for over a month. We are still missing a settlement, and we have a huge planet to eyeball - it's estimated to be about 10000 man hours of work to scour the surface with our eyeballs.
Come, help us!
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It's not the content, it's the TOOLS....or lack thereof. You have to eyeball countless planets in order to find the good stuff!
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The other point is that exploration content shouldn't just be all this scripted stuff (cool as that is). We need more procedurally generated content as well. Weird ancient ruins utterly unconnected to The Guardians or The Thargoids, for example......or weird geological features that you can name if you find them first.
You know, I would just settle for ADS and DSS being rolled into one module. Because surely this could be a start? Module proliferation is out of control.
Sure there are eleventy other things that would encourage back out into the black, but can we just please get the module situation under control?
Sure there are eleventy other things that would encourage back out into the black, but can we just please get the module situation under control?
Which planet ? I don't know what to do in Elite right now until Beta
I can find it for you - it's in the Conflux, seriously, I wasn't kidding, the more eyballs, the quicker we find it.
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How hard is it to replace the MK1?
You have a energy spectrum display window above the right UI. It shows the amplitude of energy from low to high in log. db micro volts. Display is overloaded from a star when scooping. It shows other energy sources as the ship moves away from a star and closer to POI or anything.
The code needed is partly already there as ships relative distance to all stellar bodies is known in all respects!
A discovery tool that is interactive and a simple foundation to flesh out.
Please start with this pseudo real time graph of relative distances to all system bodies and add from there.
The " Anomaly Has Been Placed In Your Nav Panel " is nothing to build upon.
A player could note that when alien 'whatever' is near, frequency X is high. Or NPC X says frequency X should be watched out for.
Compared to the combat mechanics in the game this should be simple.
You have a energy spectrum display window above the right UI. It shows the amplitude of energy from low to high in log. db micro volts. Display is overloaded from a star when scooping. It shows other energy sources as the ship moves away from a star and closer to POI or anything.
The code needed is partly already there as ships relative distance to all stellar bodies is known in all respects!
A discovery tool that is interactive and a simple foundation to flesh out.
Please start with this pseudo real time graph of relative distances to all system bodies and add from there.
The " Anomaly Has Been Placed In Your Nav Panel " is nothing to build upon.
A player could note that when alien 'whatever' is near, frequency X is high. Or NPC X says frequency X should be watched out for.
Compared to the combat mechanics in the game this should be simple.
No, because balance. It's ok to smash the balance balancing act with engineers for combat, with mega shields, mega weapons and huge power and magic spells - but, hell no, explorers can't have a DSS and ADS in one, that would ruin the balance!
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Oh okay, but nobody knows which planet. Misread your post
(sorry, I just started to get interested in the plot, didn't even know what it was about an hour ago).Oh okay, but nobody knows which planet. Misread your post
Pru Aescs TY-J a64-1 is the system - yes, we know the planet (the third from the main star), but it's a BIG planet. We don't know the co-ordinates of the missing base/settlement, and it seems we missed the super secret galnet post with the hidden message that's coded in hex, which was encoded using hieroglyphics that were then encrypted into a message about blue cheese from Naan, that needs a photo-spectro-analyser to aimed at the exact right pixel on your screen to find.
So, instead, we have to use the eyeball MKI to visually scan the planet at an altitude of about 10km, with detail settings set so low that the surface looks like yoghurt, as this is the most efficient way of seeing bases against the surface of the planet, as it seems that optical technology to develop telescopes has been lost in a major war a few centuries ago.
Seriously, though, if you are interested, this is the thread, read the first page to catch up, and then the last 3 pages to get right up to speed on where everyone is.
You'll want a fast ship - my AspX has A rated L5 modded dirty drives, and cruises at about 380, boosts to about 550.
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That's real exploration gameplay buddy. What you are asking for isn't "Exploration". Explorers go out to discover new things, see amazing sights, and most importantly document said discoveries. True explorers aren't in it for the fame or money. They are in it because what's out there calls to them. Lighten up and drive into a geyser, use your SRV to jump across a very large canyon, waste 3 SLFs in a very misty canyon. Id suggest to you maybe find a friend who also likes to explore and meet up from time to time as you venture toward the same places.
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I'm kind of confused by your reply... Askavir makes an excellent point of the sort of things we want - to discover stuff using built in game mechanics that are interesting and challenging. I don't want the geysers, or fungal tree toe growths in Teh Myst Canyons™ of Aeo Aescies PT-Y LT-D 1229 4A-1 to appear as a blue circle when I get within 1000Ls either, I want an interesting way to find them with in game tools. Heat maps, energy wave style scanners, IR/UV/insert type of spectral imaging here, radio astronomy - whatever... I don't care which, but something. I don't need to fly 65k LY from Sol to race SLF's and SRV's through canyons...
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Quite right, Zeeman. Take the alien mysteries. You should have all the tools needed to solve the puzzles without ever leaving the game. Sure it might put Canonn Research Group out of work, but......
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Here you're spot on: "Explorers go out to discover new things, see amazing sights, and most importantly document said discoveries"
This however is not a list of activities that fit that description: "Lighten up and drive into a geyser, use your SRV to jump across a very large canyon, waste 3 SLFs in a very misty canyon."
That's not exploring that's faffing about.
If faffing about was a profession in Elite, I'd be an Elite Faffer, so I know what I'm talking about. It's enjoyable for a while, but not exploring.
Actually... We should get FD to change the Elite Exploration moniker, to Elite Faffing. It'd be more accurate.
While we're at it, a truly amusing addition to the bobble head line up would be a sextant and a telescope. I'd buy both. Seriously.
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The glaring issue with a scripted story line (that nobody wanted might I add as every always screamed "ED isn't a scripted game!!") is that the story line is scripted. It's a story - it's not exploration content in it's own right like what NMS tried to do, it's a timed, scripted event that's bug ridden and also waiting on the next "chapter" by the devs.
So this is what I think when I read on the forums about these "Stories" and why I never bother with them.
1) The story and things around it look fun but it's going to stop at some point as we wait for FD to add in the next part. Sorry, add the entire story in at once I don't want to be waiting around for a month or 2 whilst they add the next part? How do you know they added it or didn't add it? How long are you going to be looking for clues that simply aren't in the game because FD haven't put them in yet? No thanks - waiting for a story is not being IN a story.
2) As you said, you need Phd's in just about every science and maths to understand these puzzles. Not familiar with a certain topic of the puzzle tough luck. Any ingame tools to help you, nope. Who's this aimed at again?
3) Bugs - ED is full of them so good luck trying to solve a puzzle that can't be solved because of bugs. I don't have time to waste on poor coding and we've heard that the latest puzzle can't be solved because of bugs. If you're going to inject a story into your game you'd better make sure you play test it first. Imagine trying to solve something for an entire month only for FD to say "ooops we had a bug?", "Oh really, ooops, here's a slap around the face!" LOL
4) Now I don't know about you but I haven't covered the interior of my house in tin foil and used cardboard boxes to make shapes and pretend consoles where I put my laptop and phone under so I have an In Character reason for using my laptop as my "intergaltic web connector" and my phone as my "Galactic communicator". On top of this, I didn't go out and buy a space suit so when I "face time" (or skype) with my other roleplay friends and we're all dressed up (in more tinfoil) I can talk about the puzzles and we can log into the "intergalactic web connector" and all use that to work things out.
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NMS is the real reason the Thargoids invaded....
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I'll just point out again that around these forums, scripted story's were a massive no. How many times did people here scream out "if you want a story go play Mass Effect!! Elite doesn't DO THAT!!"
ED was always heralded as you're the pilot, there's the galaxy off you go.
I happen to disagree with that view point but I think it's worth highlighting the hyspocrisy around here as everyone hates on stuff other suggest UNTIL FDev decide they want it then suddenly it's mana handed down by the gods.