SDC Presents: Operation Healies4Feelies

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The moderator team consists of 7 independent pilots, two AA pilots, and one SDC pilot. All of which moderate according to the subreddit's rules, which allow more freedom of speech than these forums.

And if literal invincibility doesn't seem game-breaking to you then that's fine by us. We'll just keep killing everyone inside stations and laugh when people try to stop us.
 
The moderator team consists of 7 independent pilots, two AA pilots, and one SDC pilot. All of which moderate according to the subreddit's rules, which allow more freedom of speech than these forums.

And if literal invincibility doesn't seem game-breaking to you then that's fine by us. We'll just keep killing everyone inside stations and laugh when people try to stop us.

I wonder if the vid might have been mistimed.. Imagine what you did in this vid but post multi-crew.. You could likely have sold seats for real money to operate the turrets and missiles.. :D Plus it would have likely been another six months before it got fixed.
 
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SDC just needs to make this kind of "proof of concept" video with its own members instead of shooting at random CMDRs. Sure, salt buckets will be emptier and all that, but the point will be made nonetheless.

I understand that, but some of the CMDRs they shot might not even be aware of the ridiculous power some of the mods grant. To them, they just got destroyed for no reason

Yes but the RPK-ing is an integral part of what makes it an SDC vid, not just something anyone else might have made.
 
Well, it's quite amazing that healing beams are that strong. Station guns are powerful, but not in this case.

You guys must be pretty bored though, if this is what you dream up to do, haha. It's creative, though, I'll grant you.
 
I can't watch the video right now, are the healing beams by themselves broken or when coupled to broken engineered shields?

Do they heal a fixed MJ amount per second or a percentage of total shields? Are they as effective if used on FDLs with unengineered shields?

But true

The shown exploit is just a convoluted way to abuse existing mechanics. It wouldn't be a problem unless a group of players had the deliberate purpose of finding the holes in the game. You will always find those. It will never end. Have fun with it, but I would prefer if you stop pretending devs to waste their valuable time with your pretentious games

There's also the fact that they're doing this because they're salty that players they deem inferior have used the healing beams against them. The timing of the video, right before 2.3 beta rounds the corner, is also a clear signal that they're going to claim to be the ones who got it changed.

LOL.

How long did it take to find and take advantage of this? Why did it take several months?

They started crying about it on reddit a few weeks ago, because 13th was using it against them.
 
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verminstar

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The moderator team consists of 7 independent pilots, two AA pilots, and one SDC pilot. All of which moderate according to the subreddit's rules, which allow more freedom of speech than these forums.

And if literal invincibility doesn't seem game-breaking to you then that's fine by us. We'll just keep killing everyone inside stations and laugh when people try to stop us.

Whatever floats yer boat m8 I couldnt care less what ye do...it wont affect my game. It will undoubedly affect the game and the modes and the amount of salt generation, but personally yer far enough away that I really dont need to worry too much about accidentally running into ye...or anyone fer that matter, and amazingly, Im playing in open ^

If thats how ye get yer jollies, then who am I to judge? Im just laughing at yer attempts with the pr stunt...cool music, very fitting ^

In saying that, I got a ship absolutely bulging with 4 months of scan data...and I got no guns and no sheilds...erm
 
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I got a ship absolutely bulging with 4 months of scan data...and I got no guns and no sheilds...erm

Don't fly into a letter box that has a bunch of green beams and pulsating station lasers right beyond the threshold.

Indeed, while carrying such data, one would be wise to pick a system of minimal interest at the edge of the bubble to sell one's data to, not a CG or tourist hotspot.
 
I actually enjoyed that video OP, seems healing beams really are overpowered, in addition I loved how it seemed that one commander The_Grox, didn't seem to care and actually lol'd. Good PvP funtimes it looks like. That said, you uhh might wanna use a different robot voice for the intro, not to claim copycats but as far as Elite Dangerous with that specific robot voice is concerned... Blind Pew kinda has that locked down as "his thing". I mean there's no actual claim to it obviously and it's free to use, but considering I've watched SDC streams before for the PvP action over on Twitch, you guys don't seem to have an issue with using your actual voices, so why the robot voice anyways?

Anyways great vid and after seeing it I agree healing beams are overpowered. Forget people (aka babies) whining about overpowered shields (when cascade torpedoes and whatnot can instantly strip them), healing beams are outright broken when the station itself can't even kill FDL's just healing each other, who needs super shields when you have that level of healing power?

Rinzler sounds like a DUCK, that's why you'd never listen to his voice even on discord ;)
 

verminstar

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Don't fly into a letter box that has a bunch of green beams and pulsating station lasers right beyond the threshold.

Indeed, while carrying such data, one would be wise to pick a system of minimal interest at the edge of the bubble to sell one's data to, not a CG or tourist hotspot.

This is not my first time out, although it has been the longest duration so far...Im only going back to change ship, refit and then straight back out. Thats my game...fer now...I have other accounts when I want to do different things ^
 
Great video and love the cheers when the ship blows! Glad SDC is taking the time to point out just how broken this game is. Many just want to close their eyes.
 
In saying that, I got a ship absolutely bulging with 4 months of scan data...and I got no guns and no sheilds...erm
It's this kind of mindlessness that defines and separates PvErs from PvPers. From all systems available, no, you couldn't turn around and move to another. No, you had to put your ship in it, right?

You deserved it. 4 months of scan data and then this. Darwin is having a good time for sure.
 
This is not my first time out, although it has been the longest duration so far...Im only going back to change ship, refit and then straight back out. Thats my game...fer now...I have other accounts when I want to do different things ^

I'ts very easy to dodge any attacks on the station, GO SR, Explorers should have g3 PP and G5 Clean drives they can dock and jump in SR, I know that because that's what i do in my stealth Cobra... Cant believe any explorer would go out with anything but that
 
Forget people (aka babies) whining about overpowered shields (when cascade torpedoes and whatnot can instantly strip them), healing beams are outright broken when the station itself can't even kill FDL's just healing each other, who needs super shields when you have that level of healing power?

You can't separate the two. Almost nothing in the game exists in a vacuum and every alteration is going to have side effects.

Regeneration sequence was questionable in 2.1, but it's vastly worse now because of changes to other aspects of the game, including changes to shields.

Increasing weapon damage improved regeneration sequence.
Reducing beam WEP drain improved regeneration sequence.
Increasing the grades of beam laser modifications improved regeneration sequence.
Allowing efficient beams (which increases DPE) improved regeneration sequence.
Increased shield resistances improved regeneration sequence.
Even raw shield MJ helps a bit, as it gives more time to respond and a greater buffer for mistakes/delays.
 
What progress are you expecting? Enlighten us. PVE folks claim Open because having PG and Solo is not enough. So?

progression? how about discussing possible fixes... though it looks like this thread is not about that... well for the most part anyway, I have tried to show my idea for a possible fix four times and gotten ignored every time... (Not trying to say my idea is super good or anything, it most likely is not good at all)
 
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progression? how about discussing possible fixes... though it looks like this thread is not about that... well for the most part anyway, I have tried to show my idea for a possible fix four times and gotten ignored every time... (Not trying to say my idea is super good or anything, it most likely is not good at all)

What fixes? It's easy to fix. Reduce the healing sequence to a proper level, so that it stops being OP. Easy as that.
 
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verminstar

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All comes down to choices m8...Ill switch to solo when Im about 500ly out and travel to a system I know well and have used before. I keep a cobra there as my bubble taxi...tis all good no worries...one does not take unnecessary risks with a payday this large in an asp scout with no sheild and half a hull, I am not a fool [wacky]

Im not entirely sane either but thats besides the point...now if its 6 months time in the python that will run cold and fast after this? I might actually enjoy that...I always run but fear not...if ye cant keep up, Ill come back and give ye another chance just cos its the hunt that I live for...the kill is merely the destination and end of the hunt. Who is really hunting who?

Real pvp is so much more than killing to make silly statements, to be the child having a tantrum and demanding attention by stamping their feet...throwing the toys outta the pram, spitting the dummy out whatever ye wanna call it. Its an attention seeking tantrum.

Im not associating what yer doing with pvp, because what you think of as pvp and what I think of as pvp are two entirely different things...its all good though because I dont do pvp here...not right now anyway...time and place and all that jazz ^
 
The moderator team consists of 7 independent pilots, two AA pilots, and one SDC pilot. All of which moderate according to the subreddit's rules, which allow more freedom of speech than these forums.

Except for all the posts that get deleted by the sub mods for inciting conflict*, a rule which is selectively enforced as the PVP brigade generaly runs their mouth against players and groups they dislike without reprimands.

And also name and shame**, which is not permitted by the sub rules, but is allowed to stay, specially when it comes to combat logging.

*"No hate speech or inciting conflict – You are free to offer your opinion in the local space-bar respectfully, but comments intended to demean a group, incite conflict, and the pejorative use of slurs are disallowed."

**Naming and shaming is prohibited – Videos, screenshots, or accusations of someone who has cheated, exploited, or breached the game's TOS, will be removed. Report them in-game or through support. Naming someone with the intent of not shaming them, such as a bounty for someone's head, is allowed provided they do not violate the above criteria.
 
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