THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

With the difficulty in getting large quantities of MA nowadays I sincerely hope the MDrive does not use them as consumables/fuel!!.

There is probably a new engineer who can mod you FSD to be interdiction proof and he requests 300 units of meta allows to be unlocked.... ;)
 
With the difficulty in getting large quantities of MA nowadays I sincerely hope the MDrive does not use them as consumables/fuel!!
More likely they were attacked & now need rescuing. The trouble is without another MDrive, how to get in there to find them, though I think Thatchinho has managed it. Alec Turner reported using 69 Lambda EridNis to get out of being trapped there, while Goemon reported Rigel, Spirograph Nebula, V380 Orionis, EZ Orionis are good waypoints to come around col 70 sector.

Meta-Drives will need an energy scource. Most likely matter-antimatter fusion.
The meta-alloy could act as this, they cold be fuel tanks or simply materials needed in the construction.
It's not guite clear yet.
 
500,000cr bounty? 500,000 credits? I wouldn't hunt down my worse enemy for 500,000 credits. Back when I was playing as CMDR Fionn Mac Cumhaill last year I garnered a personally bounty against myself in LTT 4961 of over 10 million credits. And I was never as notorious as Kahina Loren.

The empire really needs to sweeten that pot if they expect someone to bite.)

RP/ Maybe if the empire had put a multi-billion credit bounty on her head (which they most likely did consider) it would have gotten even the most brainwashed power bloc disciples to sit up and take note of how deeply and desperate the powers are to see Salomé fail. i.e.. Why are the Empire so terrified of this woman and what does she know that we don't?

A low key bounty keeps things low key on their end, but will still get enough opportunists crawling out of the woodwork to take a pot shot [alien]
 
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RP/ Maybe if the empire had put a multi-billion credit bounty on her head (which they most likely did consider) it would have gotten even the most brainwashed power bloc diciples to sit up and take note of how deeply and desperate the powers are to see Salome fail. I.e.. Why are the Empire so terrified of this woman and what does she know that we don't?

A low key bounty keeps things low key on their end, but will still get enough opportunists crawling out of the woodwork to take a pot shot [alien]

Oh sure ... but I'd consider a 1 to 2 million credit bounty to still be low key for someone accused of attempting to assassinate someone of Denton Patreus' status.

From Drew's Reclamation FAQ:

Q. Octavia Quinton’s bounty for Hassan was only 50,000 Cr, yet you state it was enough to buy a decent ship. Why?
The level of bounty hunting reward and the costs of the ships had not been established at the time. I was given this figure as very generous bounty. It appears the Elite universe has had a small inflation problem in the meantime. I suggest you consider the bounty to actually have been nearer to 5M Cr.
 
I do hope the flower ships are Alliance research based on Thargoid technology they reverse engineered from the previous war, to make up for their lack of ships & rankings, though I am a bit dubious this is the plot that FD are working on.

I do not believe the flower ships are Thargoid. Thargoid ships have consistently been of a different design throughout elite iterations. A sort of hexagonal shape - not flowery or spiky at all. I don't think FDev would have deviated so markedly from the original and repetitive design. Also - lack of hostility. Thargoids were always pretty brutal and hostile. It is more likely, and after reading the Canonn and listening to Obsidian Ants post, that the flower ships are either the 'drones' / 'AI' creations of the Guardians or they're the Guardian exiles themselves.
 
I do not believe the flower ships are Thargoid. Thargoid ships have consistently been of a different design throughout elite iterations. A sort of hexagonal shape - not flowery or spiky at all. I don't think FDev would have deviated so markedly from the original and repetitive design. Also - lack of hostility. Thargoids were always pretty brutal and hostile. It is more likely, and after reading the Canonn and listening to Obsidian Ants post, that the flower ships are either the 'drones' / 'AI' creations of the Guardians or they're the Guardian exiles themselves.

I have to disagree. The most likely scenario is that they are human designed ships, reverse engineered from Thargoid tech. Specifically the supposed living ships. The guardians are almost definitely gone, perhaps ascended to higher beings. All that we have seen so far that are proven to be from that ancient race are ruins, and they look nothing like any of the other alien stuff (artefacts, probes, barnacles, ships) we have found so far.
 
I have to disagree. The most likely scenario is that they are human designed ships, reverse engineered from Thargoid tech. Specifically the supposed living ships. The guardians are almost definitely gone, perhaps ascended to higher beings. All that we have seen so far that are proven to be from that ancient race are ruins, and they look nothing like any of the other alien stuff (artefacts, probes, barnacles, ships) we have found so far.

I don't think so, if they where reverse engineered they would have more human features than only one pilot chair, if someone tries to hide the fact that they are actually human this someone must be a total by putting a human chair in the cockpit. I rather think they are alien and the chair looking part is something else or a mistake by the devs.
 
Anyone unhappy with bounty amount on Kahina, what is stopping you from offering more?

Actually reading what I just wrote - I offer 3 millions credits in any reasonable form (painite, platinum etc.) for anyone that can give me the information of Comandor Salomé whereabouts (of course if the location can be confirmed, not paying for ideas ;) )
 
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Anyone unhappy with bounty amount on Kahina, what is stopping you from offering more?

Actually reading what I just wrote - I offer 3kk credits in any reasonable form (painite, platinum etc.) for anyone that can give me the information of Comandor Salomé whereabouts (of course if the location can be confirmed, not paying for ideas ;) )
3kk??
 
I don't think so, if they where reverse engineered they would have more human features than only one pilot chair, if someone tries to hide the fact that they are actually human this someone must be a total by putting a human chair in the cockpit. I rather think they are alien and the chair looking part is something else or a mistake by the devs.

It's more than just the chair that makes me think its a human vessel, I still haven't even seen the apparent picture and have suspected this is the case before I had even heard the information. Time will tell i guess :)

I have just been looking into the guardians a little more, watched obsidian ants video that is giving ram tahs observations. Makes me wonder if the Thargoids and the Guardians are one and the same, different races of the same being?
 
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It's more than just the chair that makes me think its a human vessel, I still haven't even seen the apparent picture and have suspected this is the case before I had even heard the information. Time will tell i guess :)

I have just been looking into the guardians a little more, watched obsidian ants video that is giving ram tahs observations. Makes me wonder if the Thargoids and the Guardians are one and the same, different races of the same being?

With the size and age of the galaxy, it would be odd if there are only 2 different alien races and I think FD will add more (alive or extinct). The Guardians serve as an already extinct race which gives FD the opportunity to add old ruins and such things. The Targoids are the old enemy and it would be nothing new if they become the big alien race humanity has to deal with. I think the Flower Ships are a completely new alien race with a yet unknown agenda. But this is just what I think, no prove whatsoever...
 
With the size and age of the galaxy, it would be odd if there are only 2 different alien races and I think FD will add more (alive or extinct). The Guardians serve as an already extinct race which gives FD the opportunity to add old ruins and such things. The Targoids are the old enemy and it would be nothing new if they become the big alien race humanity has to deal with. I think the Flower Ships are a completely new alien race with a yet unknown agenda. But this is just what I think, no prove whatsoever...

But if the Guardians are the beings, and the Thargoids are a just one race of guardians, who's to say there aren't more? Look at humans - we are all the same creature but there are many different breeds. The guardians were a much more advanced race than humanity, even in 3303. There could be vast physiological differences in the different branches of Guardians, or they could look very similar but with different views and cultures. The Thargoids could have been just one of these, others may be peaceful or even worse than Thargoids. So you could be right and what we will see is a different alien, though I think they all come from the same origin.
 
But if the Guardians are the beings, and the Thargoids are a just one race of guardians, who's to say there aren't more? Look at humans - we are all the same creature but there are many different breeds. The guardians were a much more advanced race than humanity, even in 3303. There could be vast physiological differences in the different branches of Guardians, or they could look very similar but with different views and cultures. The Thargoids could have been just one of these, others may be peaceful or even worse than Thargoids. So you could be right and what we will see is a different alien, though I think they all come from the same origin.

Thargoid and Guardian home worlds have very different conditions. I doubt they are related.
 
Thargoid and Guardian home worlds have very different conditions. I doubt they are related.

The guardian homework had a massive climate change event though, and they were advanced at genetic manipulation. Could be they helped themselves to evolve in a way that would allow them to survive in very different conditions.
 


DO you know something we don't? Is this the 2.3 release date (and I just missed that memo) or a CoR event?


With Raan Corsen turning up alive, and whoever this Tsu Annabelle Singh character is, it is starting to reek more and more of the Alliance. A lot of little things are leading back to them. They seem to have their dirty little fingers in a lot of this stuff but are smart enough to let the feds and Imps take the brunt of the public scrutiny.

I have a different take on events. It seems to me that Feds & Alliance are both deeply implicated in the plot that Salome & co are trying to uncover, while the Alliance are not actively involved but do have some inside knowledge ofevents, presumably through intelligence operatives like Ms Singh. That's why ex-president Halsey has gravitated towards them, & it seems possobly also Salome. I think the Alliance are going to be the good guys. I do hope the flower ships are Alliance research based on Thargoid technology they reverse engineered from the previous war, to make up for their lack of ships & rankings, though I am a bit dubious this is the plot that FD are working on. Time will tell.

I agree with Jorki here. I do think the Alliance is involved, but then the are a major power with vastly more resources then us, and no doubt whole intelligence departments. All major powers and organisation will, at the very least, know a fair bit about what is going on, and the various mysteries we are perusing.

Given we cannot take the events on First Encounters as canon any-more, I am guessing that their bases studying fungus in the California nebula, Cooper Research Associates (who are one of the factions I actively work for) in the Pleiades, all the Turner stuff, Corsen and Hallsey going to them etc etc are all just due diligence on there part to not get caught with there pants down when things kick off.

It does not rule out that they are far more actively involved however. It may be that given both the Feds and Imps where involved with INRA (assuming they are still canon), that the Alliance are the good guys, trying to stop inter species war. Of course given that I am 70% Alliance 30% Imperial in my loyalties I may be bias.
 
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