THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

I agree with you with regards to the Feds.

You are probably right with the Imps too, however Imperial law would contest 'disposable' in strong terms. However we know from Reclamation that what Imperial law says, and what happens might not be the same thing.

The Alliance is the interesting one. Define 'traitors'. To my knowledge that comes from a tongue in cheek remark from Michael Brooks which he then said should not be taken seriously. Of course others have suggested he may have then been backtracking, but I tend to take him at his word.

Would trying to sort out the mess left by the Feds and Imps joint INRA actions, and thus saving Humanity from being royally wtfpwnd by the Thargoids in a very final way, be classed as treason? Or saving the Feds and Imps sorry asses despite themselves?

If aliens had arrived at Earth during WW2 and the Allies accepted their help to defeat the 'very bad political party in Germany in the 30s and 40s whose name it would seem is blocked', would that make them traitors to humanity?

EDIT: I think the danger here is adopting a very old fashioned, us and them attitude, based on appearance (race, colour, nation or in this case species), as opposed to taking a (quite literally in this case) Cosmopolitan (the true meaning: citizen of the cosmos), view and seeing sides based on there actions and principles not the shape of their mouth parts.

The view of The Alliance as traitors goes back to before M. Brookes. I'm referencing the end of Frontier: First Encounters which, now, appears to not be canonical. When "Dangerous" was released though most of us thought that the old timeline was still "intact" and that's one of the reasons why I through my hat in with the Federation instead of the Alliance. Given the fact that the revised timeline no longer reflects the way FFE ended I might have chosen my allies differently ... but now I'm too deeply entrenched thanks to way too many in-game friendships.
 
Back in the bubble. Sold all data from the various bases to CoR, just in case that kicks off anything (doubt it). That's from all bases at all 3 regions. Nice little earner of about 65m cr, now, to see how much exploration data I nabbed...

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The view of The Alliance as traitors goes back to before M. Brookes. I'm referencing the end of Frontier: First Encounters which, now, appears to not be canonical. When "Dangerous" was released though most of us thought that the old timeline was still "intact" and that's one of the reasons why I through my hat in with the Federation instead of the Alliance. Given the fact that the revised timeline no longer reflects the way FFE ended I might have chosen my allies differently ... but now I'm too deeply entrenched thanks to way too many in-game friendships.

Fair play. Of course without knowing what caused Human/Thargoid friction in the first place, it is impossible to know. Who shot first? If anyone? And why? The problem is, that without that context, it is impossible to know how to view the 'help them out' ending in FFE, or indeed the 'finish them off' version. I guess time will tell.

And I understand the friendship part. I have a good few in game friends who are solid Winters supporters. We still chat, and sometimes wing up... and call each other names.
 
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Fair play. Of course without knowing what caused Human/Thargoid friction in the first place, it is impossible to know. Who shot first? If anyone? And why? The problem is, that without that context, it is impossible to know how to view the 'help them out' ending in FFE, or indeed the 'finish them off' version. I guess time will tell.

And I understand the friendship part. I have a good few in game friends who are solid Winters supporters. We still chat, and sometimes wing up... and call each other names.

We know something. We(a private human company called 'Planets Unlimited') shot first. Until that episode, the Thargoids were passively watching us and as now, pulling humans out of hyperspace.

https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/57ada8969657baeb6e876c6c
 
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We know something. We(a private human company called 'Planets Unlimited') shot first. Until that episode, the Thargoids were passively watching us and as now, pulling humans out of hyperspace.

https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/57ada8969657baeb6e876c6c

Then in that scenario, I would view the 'now probably didn't happen anyway' 'help them' ending as a morally sound action. Sort of like the end of Ender's Game: You started it, they retaliated, it degenerates into war, you win that war decisively, but then take an act of mercy to try to bring about conciliation, understanding and to stop it ever happening again. If that is an act of treason then I question the morals and integrity of those labelling it so.

However I would not put it past FDEV and Drew to turn everything upside down and make you question all your assumptions. It would be hard to take but I could see a story where the Feds are the good guys. Imperfect for sure, but that they are trying to protect everyone and the Thargoids really are the big bad and the Alliance helped/are helping them just to save there own skins.


EDIT: and just as a reality check, in case referencing things like WW2 and questioning morals is making people a bit uncomfortable, this is all RP speak. This is after-all, a game. For fun. So don't be taking this line of conversation too seriously.
 
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There are girls out there with chitinous exo-skeletons and multi-jointed legs and you want Salome's phone numer? :rolleyes:

I'm not into chitinous nightwear or acrobatic positions - it's the rheumatism you know! And I definitely don't go for females who want to have me as dinner. :D

But yes, I find whoever is modelling for Salome is very attractive (in a non-cradle-snatching, May-September way!) :D
 
Actually as an aside, I always thought Michael's 'traitors' comment was nothing to do with the back story, and was actually about being independent. EG, if you are going to be independent, be independent; don't form together into a super power. That's not independence.
 
Why "My" heart and soul? and whose?

TOW:
-metaphor: the ship is her heart and soul, or exploration
-loss: "before I lost...", the focus of whatever or whoever was taken from her. Memory?
-literal: her ticker and pineal gland were replaced with artificial substituions

EAFOTS:
-metaphor: the system in the center of EAFOTS sector
-literal: the actual nebulae in EAFOTS, but technically not as they are in their own Sectors

Code:
-Encrypted: maybe ROT the original Latin vs. the translation

The Cobra:
-Metaphor: a clue to the nature of the mystery. The ship's heart and soul would be the power plant (cor(e)) and the FSD the (animam - soul/spirit/breath/life)

Please throw some more in here, as I am beating this dead horse like a winter carpet.
 
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Other than 'the choice', what's happening on April 29th? 2.3?

I'm guessing that 2.3 will land well ahead of whatever Drew has planned for the 29th. Trying to plan a major event to coincide with a release date from any software company is ... planning to have to reschedule for a later date. I'd even bet that whatever drops on the 29th is completely independent of any 2.3 content so that if Frontier doesn't deliver 2.3 before April 29th it won't effect Drew's schedule.
 
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Why "My" heart and soul? and whose?

TOW:
-metaphor: the ship is her heart and soul, or exploration
-loss: "before I lost...", the focus of whatever or whoever was taken from her. Memory?
-literal: her ticker and pineal gland were replaced with artificial substituions

EAFOTS:
-metaphor: the system in the center of EAFOTS sector
-literal: the actual nebulae in EAFOTS, but technically not as they are in their own Sectors

Code:
-Encrypted: maybe ROT the original Latin vs. the translation

The Cobra:
-Metaphor: a clue to the nature of the mystery. The ship's heart and soul would be the power plant (cor(e)) and the FSD the (animam - soul/spirit/breath/life)

Please throw some more in here, as I am beating this dead horse like a winter carpet.

Also: the Heart and Soul of the Elite universe is the Cobra Mk III.

As far as who, or what, she lost? I'm gonna bet it was Jim.
 
Why "My" heart and soul? and whose?

TOW:
-metaphor: the ship is her heart and soul, or exploration
-loss: "before I lost...", the focus of whatever or whoever was taken from her. Memory?
-literal: her ticker and pineal gland were replaced with artificial substituions

EAFOTS:
-metaphor: the system in the center of EAFOTS sector
-literal: the actual nebulae in EAFOTS, but technically not as they are in their own Sectors

Code:
-Encrypted: maybe ROT the original Latin vs. the translation

The Cobra:
-Metaphor: a clue to the nature of the mystery. The ship's heart and soul would be the power plant (cor(e)) and the FSD the (animam - soul/spirit/breath/life)

Please throw some more in here, as I am beating this dead horse like a winter carpet.

Hi,

I had similar thoughts about that, please see my post here https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/324796-THE-FORMIDINE-RIFT-MYSTERY-(Part-4)/page268 (this shalle be no adverstising !) , maybe together we can fiddle out something more regarding the Rift mystery, comparing metaphors used by Drew in Reclamation .
 
I tried to get as high as I can in EAFOTS above the Settlements, but I was running out on T3 jump injection and had to turn around before getting stuck. I don't know how someone made all these 80 ly jump. ether they have tons of T3 jump injection or really light maxed FSD Ship.

all systems I been to up there was claimed. Seem EAFOTS goes up till there is no stars left.

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I tried to get as high as I can in EAFOTS above the Settlements, but I was running out on T3 jump injection and had to turn around before getting stuck. I don't know how someone made all these 80 ly jump. ether they have tons of T3 jump injection or really light maxed FSD Ship.

http://i.imgur.com/K3zpzb7.png

I did the same thing when I was back there in my Conda. Someone already tagged a lot of those way up there and I was like nvm.
 
I wanted to get up as far as I can. another 400ly the stars are to far even for T3 Jump Injections

I tried going up as far as I could in my Asp, but I didn't use any injections because I've only got the mats for 5 premium jumps, and I didn't really fancy the risk of getting stuck up there. This is my third time out in the Rift, and I'm hoping to make it back to the Bubble alive for the first time.
 
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I tried going up as far as I could in my Asp, but I didn't use any injections because I've only got the mats for 5 premium jumps, and I didn't really fancy the risk of getting stuck up there. This is my third time out in the Rift, and I'm hoping to make it back to the Bubble alive for the first time.

it looks like I may just unload most of my mats and stock only T3 jump injection mats. that may give me a 100 jumps. 50 up and 50 back down.
 
it looks like I may just unload most of my mats and stock only T3 jump injection mats. that may give me a 100 jumps. 50 up and 50 back down.

There are some neutron stars up there, I mapped as many as I could to EDSM, but without taking much risk, with 2.3 we will get an asteroid base there so then it will be time to "all or nothing" jumps :)
 
With regards to the Reddit Post with the same Kahina promotional poster, there is a comment by drew that I thought you guys might be interested in:

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EDIT: It may be worthwhile to get involved if possible to progress the story, as opposed to sit on the sidelines and see what happens (popcorn option)
 
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