ED Steamcharts "4,000" active players. Pathetic

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You need context for 91% of of buyers no longer playing? Really?

Fine. Here it is:

The game is boring.

Travel is a loading screen Simulator.

Trade and Exploration consist mostly of WATCHING, not playing, the game. Seriously, someone did the math on time spent, and the reality is that, outside of combat, the majority of a play session is spent NOT interacting with the game. At all.

Add to that, it's one of the most shallow sandboxes in existence today. Nothing we do matters or has any consequences. We can't affect anything in a meaningful, visible manner or to a measurable degree.

And to top all this off, the game is marketed using some of the most dishonest trailers I have ever seen. Made to look like an action game, with I start travel and lots of close quarters dogfights in interesting places. All of which is designed to draw in the exact opposite of the player type most like to enjoy the abject boredom fostered by 75% of this Loading Screen Sim 3302.

How's that for context?

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Or maybe they are players angry about STILL not having gotten to anything close to a game resembling the one Braben promised. And they aren't yet willing to let FDev FORGET those promises.

And don't quote the "ten year plan." If anyone seriously believed that would work - or was even real - we wouldn't be here. We'd just check back In a decade.

As it stands, this game will be lucky to make half that.

There is truth in this!
Maybe 2.4, 3.0 and beyond will change this, i hope so.
I like to think that devs are implementing core things first to give us better gameplay later.
Game development is a slow pace and unpredictable.
Kickstarters are learning us this!
 
You need context for 91% of of buyers no longer playing? Really?

Fine. Here it is:

The game is boring.

Travel is a loading screen Simulator.

Trade and Exploration consist mostly of WATCHING, not playing, the game. Seriously, someone did the math on time spent, and the reality is that, outside of combat, the majority of a play session is spent NOT interacting with the game. At all.

Add to that, it's one of the most shallow sandboxes in existence today. Nothing we do matters or has any consequences. We can't affect anything in a meaningful, visible manner or to a measurable degree.

And to top all this off, the game is marketed using some of the most dishonest trailers I have ever seen. Made to look like an action game, with I start travel and lots of close quarters dogfights in interesting places. All of which is designed to draw in the exact opposite of the player type most like to enjoy the abject boredom fostered by 75% of this Loading Screen Sim 3302.

How's that for context?

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Or maybe they are players angry about STILL not having gotten to anything close to a game resembling the one Braben promised. And they aren't yet willing to let FDev FORGET those promises.

And don't quote the "ten year plan." If anyone seriously believed that would work - or was even real - we wouldn't be here. We'd just check back In a decade.

As it stands, this game will be lucky to make half that.

dont let the door hit u on ur way out....
 
4000 active players makes elite one of the most played games on steam. I don't see how that is bad, like at all.
 
So, what we have learnt from this thread is:

a) Steam numbers are only part of the picture.

b) Steam numbers actually show the game in quite a positive light, with it being one of the most concurrently played games and a high level of players per week.

So, what was a doom thread turns into rather positive information.
 
Yeah. This game didn't start out on steam, so a lot of people didn't buy it that way and continue not to. I'm guessing steam is not an accurate count of players, as probably a smaller proportion than usual purchased it that way. And it doesn't count xbox players, of course.

If you play the commanders beta it does add furniture to the house, as it were. So that'll help the lack of content.
 
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So, what we have learnt from this thread is:

a) Steam numbers are only part of the picture.

b) Steam numbers actually show the game in quite a positive light, with it being one of the most concurrently played games and a high level of players per week.

So, what was a doom thread turns into rather positive information.

What FD and any other studio learned;
-that only sales number are important with each season or dlc. How much active players play single player game from year or two ago, very few but still will sell dlc or sequel if it is good.
So no matter how quick ED become boring, grindy and repetitive, give it a quality new update and it sales will reach sky.
When ED reach it's final state and no further updates will be developed and player numbers start to drop drasticly than it will start to die. Until there is ongoing development game can't die.
 
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So, what we have learnt from this thread is:

a) Steam numbers are only part of the picture.

b) Steam numbers actually show the game in quite a positive light, with it being one of the most concurrently played games and a high level of players per week.

So, what was a doom thread turns into rather positive information.

TURN THAT FROWN UPSIDE DOWN... +REP
 

Lestat

Banned
Yes FD is working too parallel on few aspect of the game, but on less things and with less teams. FD set priorities and assign teams working on them while some thing are delayed for future, SC is working on complete game to be released while ED is releasing it trought seasons.
That is difference between these two games from the start.
300 devs working on few games is not the same like 600 devs working on one game.

Let also remember Star Ciziten is behind schedule and still in Alpha Stage.
 

Lestat

Banned
ED is also behind Schedule, so what? it is normal!
omg i wrote S and C together, i'm sorry!

There a difference between behind schedule and and working out bugs vs always in Alpha. One game is playable while the other one not even released.
 
You need context for 91% of of buyers no longer playing? Really?

Fine. Here it is:

The game is boring.

Travel is a loading screen Simulator.

Trade and Exploration consist mostly of WATCHING, not playing, the game. Seriously, someone did the math on time spent, and the reality is that, outside of combat, the majority of a play session is spent NOT interacting with the game. At all.

Add to that, it's one of the most shallow sandboxes in existence today. Nothing we do matters or has any consequences. We can't affect anything in a meaningful, visible manner or to a measurable degree.

And to top all this off, the game is marketed using some of the most dishonest trailers I have ever seen. Made to look like an action game, with I start travel and lots of close quarters dogfights in interesting places. All of which is designed to draw in the exact opposite of the player type most like to enjoy the abject boredom fostered by 75% of this Loading Screen Sim 3302.

How's that for context?
You are ignoring my post, you are not reading, 9% of buyers are playing, but let me try to make it clear again, those 9% can contain more then the 9% it is a volume number.
person a can be playing and then taking a break, and then person b can return due to time constraints, we don't know 'who' is playing we know a number, and without who that number only says so much, and one thing it doesn't say, is that the game is dying. 33% of all steam games bought are not played by steams own admission, remember that.

Also remember this is steam spy only, which isn't 100% of steam nor is it none steam users.

Also thank you for using Trading and Exploration as examples, let me, as i've repeatedly done ask you, what kind of games have GOOD exploration and/or Trading in your mind, please give an example, because at least in my eyes, exploration and trading are always like this, regardless of what game it is.

As for 'most dishonest trailers' That is plain and simply not true. You are dismissing countless upon countless of trailers, out there that are nothing more then cinematics and straight up lies. And those events DO happen, if you want them to, here's the thing, you have to put in effort to get to those situations, and apparently you don't want that? you want it all to be handed to you? You are correct in that you don't jump from action to action, but I've yet to see an action trailer that holds true to that. Take battlefield 1 and its trailers, those hold true? for honor, whichever.

And lets not forget, you've complained for a long time now, yet, despite this, you are still here, when by all rights if you dislike the game as much as you do, you would move on to do something you enjoy, so something is keeping you playing. Guess what, I've got countless of big budget triple A games, that do not keep me playing, funny how things are?

So why are you here? honestly? just here to create outrage? or if you are playing the game, why won't you admit, that yes, Elite has flaws, yet you are still here, and that, means it also has qualities you enjoy, where other games wouldn't have kept your attention? or can't drag you away Elite?

Elite is not perfect no, of course not, but it most certainly isn't equal the amount of outrage you are sprouting, but again, this seems to be a trend of late, outrage for the sake of outrage, and only listen to those that reinforce the outrage, spurn everyone else, no matter what they say.
So again, you are praising Elite, while forgetting what kind of game it is.

Frontier's reports show Elite is doing quite fine, despite all the doom and gloom sprouted, and you know what? it doesn't need to compete with action action action games, if it is following the developers vision and holding true to it, and they are willing to keep working with it and not pander to the outrage? well that's fine? Play games you enjoy, and not those you do not, it is that simple, and fact is, there are enough people that DO enjoy Elite.
 
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As someone else has mentioned, 4000 players at any time is pretty good for a Steam game. Good for a niche game also. At the moment Elite is very much my kick back and relax with a doobie game. Elite not so dangerous I'm hyper every second waiting for something or someone to jump out on me.

Trailers are well, trailers and not meant to be taken literally whether it be a game or a movie.
 
OP. I've played the game for over 2 years, and am not on Steam.

I hope the player base doesn't collapse. Elite is one of the few games I see myself playing for the next few years.
 
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Mu77ley

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As someone else has mentioned, 4000 players at any time is pretty good for a Steam game.

Plus, it's also been peaking at between 7,000 and 13,000+ concurrent users over the last 8 months.

Of course this is only Steam users, so doesn't include pretty much everyone I know who plays (me included), as they either play using the standard launcher, or in the case of 2 of them, on XBone.
 
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Plus, it's also been peaking at between 7,000 and 13,000+ concurrent users over the last 8 months.

Of course this is only Steam users, so doesn't include pretty much everyone I know who plays (me included), as they either play using the standard launcher, or in the case of 2 of them, on XBone.

only ppl that launch elite through steam :p
 
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