General / Off-Topic Nigel Farage says EU gangsters owe the UK billions

[Yaffle]

The UK demands respect...for stopping Hitler and saving all of Europe and at the cost of this!
Who the hell do the EU think they are anyway by making demands for payment to exit and even bribe us by holding us over a barrel of a gun by saying if we don't pay and run away instead then it will become even worse than the already even worse deal they shove at us?

Who the hell are they???

Our Queen will pay them a visit and make them choke on their knees!!!

A couple of comments here;

1) you realise that by invoking Godwin's law you instantly forfeit the argument
2) The UK was not alone on the Allies side (see the word ally, it means more than one)
3) The UK makes demands of the EU, and it's fine, the EU makes its own demands and it's not. Both parties are trying to protect their own interests, that is all
4) why would the queen make people eat their own knees?

 

[Patrick_68000]

I think that the financial participation of the British for the infrastructures of the EU (buildings) must be partially reimbursed to the UK. They are durable goods and as in a couple which divorces, the heritage must be shared

 

[Kingston@#]

Nigel huh. He says stuff just because he is in the opposition. He knows it doesn't matter what he says because he never gets a listen.

then they should listen because he's got a lot more right than the EU have done..

 

[Patrick_68000]

Meanwhile ; Wages. No fewer than ten thousand Brussels bureaucrats earn more than our PM's salary of £142,500. All the five-star perks go with.

And they want to demand £ 60 billion to the British for that a part is used to pay the pensions of all these technocrats. Yet the social contributions have already been paid every month on salaries

 

[Boomer Kay]

http://www.latenightlondon.co.uk/lifestyle/2015/december/10-ridiculous-things-the-uk-wastes-money-on

2 stadiums for 1.1 billion
Computer issues for 26 billion.
770 million a year in missed but not cancelled doctor appointments.
10 million to host assange in the Ecuadorean Embassy.

All money well spent.

 

[CMDR Heisenberg B. Damned]

Basically OP Nigel lies, he's blatant and appears to have no shame, making him very good at it.

Nigel saying all the money spent on the EU should be spent on public services like schools and the NHS. Followed by Nigel then saying Nigel didn't say that.

http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...nigel-farage-said-money-sent-eu-should-go-nhs

 

[Adept]

Nigel is essentially a troll, and a saboteur of democracy. He managed to draw a high salary in Brussels, without bothering to even show up to work most of the time. This mooching was made possible by the voters who fell for his lies.

He stole from his voters, and managed to wreck the place in the end. He won't stay in England to face the consequences either.

 

[Bran Tse Mallory]

During both WW1 and WW2 the UK lent a huge amount of monies from banks to fight the war on the agreement we'd pay it back. All of our allies agreed to pay towards the bill for their freedom - Not one penny has been paid to the UK but we still have the debt to pay back. If anything these countries should be forced to pay what they agreed to in the first place.

As for Spain and Gibralter - We should just point out how bad their already poor economy would be with no UK tourism.

 

[FuzzySpider]

It's astonishing how many WW2 veterans post here.

If anything these countries should be forced to pay what they agreed to in the first place.

Do you want to send in "our brave lads" to take their resources?

 

[Lianachan]

During both WW1 and WW2 the UK lent a huge amount of monies from banks to fight the war on the agreement we'd pay it back. All of our allies agreed to pay towards the bill for their freedom - Not one penny has been paid to the UK but we still have the debt to pay back. If anything these countries should be forced to pay what they agreed to in the first place.

As for Spain and Gibralter - We should just point out how bad their already poor economy would be with no UK tourism.

The UK, of course, has an impeccable record of paying debts from the two world wars.

And while the UK dutifully pays off its World War II debts, those from World War I remain resolutely unpaid. And are by no means trifling. In 1934, Britain owed the US $4.4bn of World War I debt (about £866m at 1934 exchange rates). Adjusted by the Retail Price Index, a typical measure of inflation, £866m would equate to £40bn now, and if adjusted by the growth of GDP, to about £225bn.

 

[Bran Tse Mallory]

It's astonishing how many WW2 veterans post here.



Do you want to send in "our brave lads" to take their resources?

Name any country that has ever paid it's debt's on time. My post was made with my tongue pressed firmly into my cheek as I know that any bill the EU places on us will never get paid just as all the war debts will never get paid. My life has taught me to just get on with it, enjoy it and have fun with it. At the time of the vote I knew I was being lied to by both sides and so didn't even vote - nothing ever seems to change my place in life and I doubt Brexit will either.

 

[Boomer Kay]

Name any country that has ever paid it's debt's on time.

Make 3 guesses.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11442892

 

[beelbeebub]

During both WW1 and WW2 the UK lent a huge amount of monies from banks to fight the war on the agreement we'd pay it back. All of our allies agreed to pay towards the bill for their freedom - Not one penny has been paid to the UK but we still have the debt to pay back. If anything these countries should be forced to pay what they agreed to in the first place.

As for Spain and Gibralter - We should just point out how bad their already poor economy would be with no UK tourism.

Didn't the UK borrow massively from the US? Lend lease and all that. IIRC it was discovered in the 90's that one of the loans hadn't technically been paid back and the backdated compound interest was now in the trillions..... As it appeared to be a bureaucratic oversight it was written off.

Sure WW2 was costly, wars tend to be, but who did we lend to? Pretty sure the UK didn't lend to any axis powers, Spain was neutral(ish)and France, Poland etc didn't exist to lend to.

 

[hairychris]

Right!

Do i remember correctly this illegitimate son said if the brexit going to be a disaster he leaves the UK?

(Anyone want to start collect him to airplane ticket and moving expenses?)

I say that if this happens him (and all the other Leave EU lot) have their passports removed and have to live with the consequences.

It'd only be fair!

 

[Sunleader]

During both WW1 and WW2 the UK lent a huge amount of monies from banks to fight the war on the agreement we'd pay it back. All of our allies agreed to pay towards the bill for their freedom - Not one penny has been paid to the UK but we still have the debt to pay back. If anything these countries should be forced to pay what they agreed to in the first place.

As for Spain and Gibralter - We should just point out how bad their already poor economy would be with no UK tourism.

I would ask to know a Source for that.
No Offense. But I never heard of any Agreements where Countries lend something from the UK to Finance or Fight WW2
Which is not Surprising because the UK had no Equipment to Spare and abandoned all their Continental Allies in WW2 leaving them to the Germans.

So if such a Debt exists. Its entirely Normal they are not Paid. Because the UK did not actually Protect them but Withdrew to their Island and Bunkered up leaving them to Die.
Dont demand Payment for a Job someone else did.


To begin with this makes me as sick as Usual.
UK Playing the Savior of Freedom what a Joke.
You guys had less Participation in WW2 than Hungary for Heavens sake....
Goddamn it most of your Participation was not even you yourself but your Colonies.....


Stop Playing the Freedom Fighter.
You Saved no one. You Won nothing and you also did not Free anything.
You abandoned your allies on the Continent and Germany gobbled them up.
Your Conspiracies resulted in 2 more European Countries being Attacked by Germany as Germany had to fear them being used as British Bases otherwise.
All you did was sit on your island and fighting for your own lifes.

 

[Arry]

I would ask to know a Source for that.
No Offense. But I never heard of any Agreements where Countries lend something from the UK to Finance or Fight WW2
Which is not Surprising because the UK had no Equipment to Spare and abandoned all their Continental Allies in WW2 leaving them to the Germans.

So if such a Debt exists. Its entirely Normal they are not Paid. Because the UK did not actually Protect them but Withdrew to their Island and Bunkered up leaving them to Die.
Dont demand Payment for a Job someone else did.


To begin with this makes me as sick as Usual.
UK Playing the Savior of Freedom what a Joke.
You guys had less Participation in WW2 than Hungary for Heavens sake....
Goddamn it most of your Participation was not even you yourself but your Colonies.....


Stop Playing the Freedom Fighter.
You Saved no one. You Won nothing and you also did not Free anything.
You abandoned your allies on the Continent and Germany gobbled them up.
Your Conspiracies resulted in 2 more European Countries being Attacked by Germany as Germany had to fear them being used as British Bases otherwise.
All you did was sit on your island and fighting for your own lifes.

You really need to re-think the above drivel.

Lend and lease. 20% of the British empire handed over to the U.S.A. Up until that lend and lease agreement was signed, the UK just paid U.S, manufactures to build ships, tanks etc. etc. etc.

As too running away and leaving the rest to die? Well words fail me, as we have moderation issues to deal with.

 

[Sir.Tj]

Because the UK did not actually Protect them but Withdrew to their Island and Bunkered up leaving them to Die.

To begin with this makes me as sick as Usual.
UK Playing the Savior of Freedom what a Joke.
You guys had less Participation in WW2 than Hungary for Heavens sake....
Goddamn it most of your Participation was not even you yourself but your Colonies.....


Stop Playing the Freedom Fighter.
You Saved no one. You Won nothing and you also did not Free anything.
You abandoned your allies on the Continent and Germany gobbled them up.
Your Conspiracies resulted in 2 more European Countries being Attacked by Germany as Germany had to fear them being used as British Bases otherwise.
All you did was sit on your island and fighting for your own lifes.

Mod hat off.

I think the many, many hundreds of thousands of British war graves in mainland continental Europe stands as a tragic and permanent testament against your ridiculous, ill informed and blinkered point of view.

Let alone all the other allied cemeteries of which are filled with young men who were pretty much still kids.

Not going to comment any further on this as I like many others grew up without Grandfathers because of us "Bunkering down."

 

[AJW]

...
To begin with this makes me as sick as Usual.
UK Playing the Savior of Freedom what a Joke.
You guys had less Participation in WW2 than Hungary for Heavens sake....

You are aware that Hungary joined the Axis in 1940?

 

[Minti2]

I would ask to know a Source for that.
No Offense. But I never heard of any Agreements where Countries lend something from the UK to Finance or Fight WW2
Which is not Surprising because the UK had no Equipment to Spare and abandoned all their Continental Allies in WW2 leaving them to the Germans.

So if such a Debt exists. Its entirely Normal they are not Paid. Because the UK did not actually Protect them but Withdrew to their Island and Bunkered up leaving them to Die.
Dont demand Payment for a Job someone else did.


To begin with this makes me as sick as Usual.
UK Playing the Savior of Freedom what a Joke.
You guys had less Participation in WW2 than Hungary for Heavens sake....
Goddamn it most of your Participation was not even you yourself but your Colonies.....


Stop Playing the Freedom Fighter.
You Saved no one. You Won nothing and you also did not Free anything.
You abandoned your allies on the Continent and Germany gobbled them up.
Your Conspiracies resulted in 2 more European Countries being Attacked by Germany as Germany had to fear them being used as British Bases otherwise.
All you did was sit on your island and fighting for your own lifes.

I said i wasn't going to write anymore in this thread but my blood is boiling right now, must be the worst disgraceful comment ive seen in a long time on these forums.

I get you hate the UK(god knows what it is we have done, that makes you write complete and utter drivel) but hey, thats your right of free speech, but to say the many British lifes lost in helping to regain Europe's freedom(along with our fantastic Allies help) was of no consequence is utterly shameful, and the fact shows you have no real idea of the history of WW2.

 

[Becks]

Apart from historical context, WW2 is of little to no relevance for this topic. Why did it even come up again?