General / Off-Topic Nigel Farage says EU gangsters owe the UK billions
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Money? Who thinks who owes who, going back to the crusades no doubt, or is it the Romans?
Minonian
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Back to the first single cells battled amongst themselves for food. 
Besides Nigel just a joke and have no better idea just to whine about some utterly ridiculous reason to justify his own existence, try to create a valid(ish) reason. The problem? These scores and debt long settled, or paid as meat to be, by details. Or just a lie.
Besides Nigel just a joke and have no better idea just to whine about some utterly ridiculous reason to justify his own existence, try to create a valid(ish) reason. The problem? These scores and debt long settled, or paid as meat to be, by details. Or just a lie.
The UK signed the London agreement on German external debts, so it can shut its trap about german liabilities from WW2.
You do realise we wrote loads of in the sixties meaning they no longer owe us for WW2
Complete and utter ignorance of history here on every aspect. Words fail to describe your disrespect.
There is the question of why we are wasting time and words on the subject of this parasite.
We should ignore him, let him disappear up Trump's rear hole, and silently abandon Article 50.
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Minonian
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The smell is too strong, so he is successfully get us off tracks. Diverts our attention. Scape goat? Same question... Either you fall off, or get angry because of it? You have been red herringed.
To cosmo.
False clue!
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1. Citation needed.
2. "Should be forced"? Pray tell, how would you like this "forcing" to be done, and who will be applying said force?
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Challenge accepted. Does this count? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_war_reparations_to_the_Soviet_Union
The nature of "debt" is an interesting one here. Extortion money would probably be more accurate, but it was paid.
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People keep bringing it up. I feel like we're Russians, and somebody will always have to bring up the Great Patriotic War.
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It's a little hard to ignore the fact that he'll still be drawing a fat EU salary (without doing the work) for the next two years. Everybody silently abandoning Article 50 would be hilarious, but sadly we've come too far.
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It's also pointless, putting someone in forced labour with no pay (i.e. their pay goes to pay off debt) simply doesn't work. It kills the person with the debt so the debt remains unpaid and it can and has happened on a country scale.
Take the Weimar republic (modern day Germany). War (WW1) reparations forced them to print money to pay to other countries, due to the printed money not going into the economy that printed it it devalued the currency, as that currency devalued they had to print yet more to try and keep up with payments. It got to the stage of normal people in the republic having to take a barrow full of cash to pay for food, even to the point where there were piles of cash left on the street because someone had stolen the wheelbarrow (it was worth more)!
I've never actually thought of this before but Weimar was a republic and world war one was largely a family dispute with a very powerful family spread over a few countries. Wonders why the republic lost out.
Anyway before Greece joined the Euro it got a loan from Goldman Sachs (I think - going from memory here and it's getting late). That loan didn't break the rules of the EU central bank for joining the Euro but it knew about it and must have realised it'd mean Greece would have to start repaying, making its balance nonviable for joining the Euro. An entire country is now being starved to death, getting loans to pay off the repayments on its current debt which just means more debt.
This can also happen to the UK, although we have our own currency, but then so did Weimar (for a while).
In conclusion (certainly not aimed at Adept or anyone really)...
Someone somewhere is always benefiting from the destruction of the masses property so let's stop this my country saved everyone, no your country are cowards. This is powerful people over masses it always has been, it probably always will be. I doubt any of us count as powerful people so we're in it together.
Welcome to the world where the bankers call the shots. Either with Brexit or without, people have to appreciate how much indirect power and influence the big financial institutions have over us, and how little of them will be called to account. Rather like EU bureaucrats.
Welcome to the world where the bankers call the shots. Either with Brexit or without, people have to appreciate how much indirect power and influence the big financial institutions have over us, and how little of them will be called to account. Rather like EU bureaucrats.
My take on the EU is it put all those people together fighting it out. Like putting a bunch of scrapping cats in a bag, they all pull in a different direction but that levels the whole thing out more or less. It's far from perfect but given the number of wars between these nation before the EU and after, for the average Joe in the street in any of the countries involved, it's been an overwhelming success. Like I say I get it's a long, long way from perfection, it's just a lot better than the alternative.
It's not too far regarding the actual process, Article 50 isn't irrevocable. Plenty of remainers are hoping that when the reality of the situation is revealed over the next couple of years (and more of the older brexit voters die along with more younger remain voters reaching 18 years old) that the UK will pull out of leaving.
Unfortunately anything relating to Europe or certain faiths ALWAYS devolves to WW2 or certain things that happened during this time. Its a shame that it has to get to that stage there have been LOADS of other wars throughout the years where people have died but this one people seem to flock to as a means to give their argument credence.
I do think that if everyone had the ACTUAL facts not propaganda then the vote may have changed, another thing that comes to mind as Farage has taken the country out of something on a hearsay or ideology in a hope to get something out of it surely thats surmountable to treason surely.
True and I really don't think it helps any argument other than isn't this why the EU was formed and haven't we had unparalleled peace between the countries involved since the EU was formed. However there may be a reason it's the default war that gets brought up...
The problem is that there are no actual facts to compare.
Opinions are one thing as are doom-mongering prophesies. Outrageously optimistic predictions are another. Until things come to pass literally noone can say whether these things are wrong or right or (more likely in most cases) somewhere in the middle. But there simply can't be verifiable facts for a Pro-Brexit position because it's purely aspirational and the future is widely variable depending on how things pan out for the UK over the next decade.