Has anyone else noticed that there is a virus spreading on surfaces of planets in some systems, forcing the local authorities to place bases in quarantine? I've seen it in Daibo (Koontz Asylum), Aditi (bases on Morrow Peek) and other systems I can't recall now. Was just wondering what everyone think is the reason for this... (it's reported in the local galnet of those systems)
I'm on xbox, but certainly will have my ship open for crew. Although I will be in a combat ready ship, I wont have turrets or SLF so my crew seat will be for commanders wishing to observe events only. I just dont have a multi-crew combat ship yet unfortunately, building one is on my to-do list though.
Attempt to retrace the Formidine Rift Beta/Gamma Expeditions. Day 2.
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If these expeditions had maintained their rate of progress, then they would have travelled just over 2500LY in between 1st Oct and 11th Nov when they made their 4th and 5th log entries. Having attempted to retrace their steps, I suspect that they would not have been able to travel this far in a straight line as the star density drops off significantly after 600-700 LY from my previous estimate of their location. My ship, with its 33 LY range, was forced to turn aside after about 700LY but even a 40LY Anaconda would not have got much farther going in the same direction. I wonder what range their ships really had at this point? Regardless, I shall continue to attempt to find a way across for now without jumponium. Perhaps this will help me to find the route they took, especially if their vessels had a similar range.
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Todays findings:
Earth-like Worlds: 2 (both previously discovered). MYOIDEAU KA-Y C14-1 1 and PHROEA HYPA YA-U D4-3 3.
Ammonia Worlds: 2. MYOIDEAU KA-Y C14-1 5 and PHROEA HYPA ZA-U D4-4 8.
Landable terraformables: 1. MYOIDEAU RC-M D7-0 A4 (High metal content).
As you can see, one system has both an Earth-like and an Ammonia World, which is uncommon, although I would not say rare. Interesting, certainly. I scanned all the planets in this system but found nothing relevant. None of the Earth-like or Ammonia Worlds I found today showed any signs of city lights, beacons, signal sources or orbital bombardment.
The system with the landable terraformable was also where I encountered my only signal source of the day. This contained a large data survey cache along with the wrecks of at least two ships, of which one was clearly an Anaconda and the other possibly a Federal Dropship. I need every last 0.01 LY of range for this expedition, so I left the data cache at the site.
I visited several belt clusters of different types but found no heat signatures.
I found a 'green' system (contains all ingredients for FSD boosting) at MYOIDEAU CE-K C8-0. Planet 1 has 1.2% Po! Other ingredients are found on worlds 3, 7d and 7e.
I have been trying to find the height above/below the Galactic Plane with the highest density of stars to help me progress further and there seems to be a vary marginal increase at about 30LY below the Galactic Plane. It is likely that I shall have to go some distance around to cross the Rift but the Dynasty Expeditions would probably have had to do the same. Once I am 2500 LY away from my last estimate of their position I will call a halt and focus my efforts on looking for Earth-like Worlds in the immediate area, in the hopes of locating the remains of the Beta expedition.
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Fly safe!
"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!"
Just because we haven't solved it yet doesn't mean it could not have been solved at any time, just means we've been looking in the wrong place, &/or not perceiving it when we've seen it.
And how are you going to hold a pitchfork and a torch when you're already holding an axe? Or do penguins have large pockets?
Attempt to retrace the Formidine Rift Beta/Gamma Expeditions. Day 2.
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If these expeditions had maintained their rate of progress, then they would have travelled just over 2500LY in between 1st Oct and 11th Nov when they made their 4th and 5th log entries. Having attempted to retrace their steps, I suspect that they would not have been able to travel this far in a straight line as the star density drops off significantly after 600-700 LY from my previous estimate of their location. My ship, with its 33 LY range, was forced to turn aside after about 700LY but even a 40LY Anaconda would not have got much farther going in the same direction. I wonder what range their ships really had at this point? Regardless, I shall continue to attempt to find a way across for now without jumponium. Perhaps this will help me to find the route they took, especially if their vessels had a similar range.
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Todays findings:
Earth-like Worlds: 2 (both previously discovered). MYOIDEAU KA-Y C14-1 1 and PHROEA HYPA YA-U D4-3 3.
Ammonia Worlds: 2. MYOIDEAU KA-Y C14-1 5 and PHROEA HYPA ZA-U D4-4 8.
Landable terraformables: 1. MYOIDEAU RC-M D7-0 A4 (High metal content).
As you can see, one system has both an Earth-like and an Ammonia World, which is uncommon, although I would not say rare. Interesting, certainly. I scanned all the planets in this system but found nothing relevant. None of the Earth-like or Ammonia Worlds I found today showed any signs of city lights, beacons, signal sources or orbital bombardment.
The system with the landable terraformable was also where I encountered my only signal source of the day. This contained a large data survey cache along with the wrecks of at least two ships, of which one was clearly an Anaconda and the other possibly a Federal Dropship. I need every last 0.01 LY of range for this expedition, so I left the data cache at the site.
I visited several belt clusters of different types but found no heat signatures.
I found a 'green' system (contains all ingredients for FSD boosting) at MYOIDEAU CE-K C8-0. Planet 1 has 1.2% Po! Other ingredients are found on worlds 3, 7d and 7e.
I have been trying to find the height above/below the Galactic Plane with the highest density of stars to help me progress further and there seems to be a vary marginal increase at about 30LY below the Galactic Plane. It is likely that I shall have to go some distance around to cross the Rift but the Dynasty Expeditions would probably have had to do the same. Once I am 2500 LY away from my last estimate of their position I will call a halt and focus my efforts on looking for Earth-like Worlds in the immediate area, in the hopes of locating the remains of the Beta expedition.
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Fly safe!
I hope you find probes or UA's I still don't understand why we haven't found a trail of them yet....I still don't understand how they even made it out there. I've heard people say the FSD's they had should have been on par with 2b or 2a, he didn't give any reasons though and I can't find anything to back this up. I know they found some weird jump drive stuff that was at least 20 yrs old in the prism system, so maybe they had something better, or maybe they cheated and used "dark space", but this is the most confusing part of the whole deal for me is how the hell they made it out there with worse tech than we have now?
As for "dark space" I originally thought the "seven veils" was a set of some seven jump we had to make in a certain order (like a combo lock) to line up with a "dark space" collision, but Salome left her Tiara behind that one time and that was the first item Inna/Ishtar had to remove to get past the first gate to the underworld, so maybe the seven thing is more symbolic...but there are 6 other gates...
I like your approach of finding the way those expeditions took. I thought about looking for the Alpha-Team myself. They started dropping beacons weeks before the other ones and got stuck for more than a week during that. Either they where faster than the other ones or they dropped their stuff on route. And according to the logs, there is a floating Anaconda to find out there. But without real hints it is hard to tell which way they went. Did they really take the RR-line? Or did they take another route, because of lower jumprange than we can use today? Hard to tell and there are thousands of systems they could have used. Without a hint, it is depending on pure luck.
Regarding your findings... My first tour was actually cut short to a few days in the Rift, because i really wanted to bring that ONE system (found halfway inbound) home. An earth-like, a waterworld and an ammonia-world in one system. every one of them has a HMC as binary. If someone could be so nice to tell me how to post pictures here (my last attempt obviously failed) i will post it in the exploration forum.
Anyway, after 2.3 hits i will head out into the rift and join you guys again. [smile]
Well, IT has been there since the gamma, and IT's in/near/around the Formidine Rift, which is along the Reorte-Riedquat line (at the edge of the galactic arm and keep going); once you reach the Rift you’re going to have to plot a way across, though no one has gone past the Rift and lived to tell the tale. So why haven't you found IT yet?
Edit: personally I would like to know what sort of thing IT actually is, because if it's a plot (which seems to me to fit all the clues) by an elitist cadre in Federation & Empire to hide preparations for their evacuation from the bubble to places of safety in the event of an alien attack whilst leaving the majority of humanity to face the pain then we've found 'it'. The FRift setlement bases and rally point beacons would have been 'it', and we have yet to become fully aware of the tapestry of threads which have been woven around this. That is what I hope to get from Salome in the 29th event.
However it might be something entirely different & that's the fundamental problem-we've never had any clue as to what sort of thing we've been looking for.
Time to move on, I know, but before doing that, I toook a video of a descending flight from a height of approx 4km, down to low level flight (and back) and you can see that it produces an decrease in gravity of 0.01g instead of an increase. It's likely to be a common occurence when flying in and out of valleys (below and above main surface level of the planet). Not sure if it only happens on HIP 21484 and if it's the only reason why but most likely not.
Unfortunately I can't read the cockpit display on my ipad, but thanks for trying. Did you try this at different locations or only at the coordinates you previously posted? A decrease in gravity with decrease in height is a bit surprising.
Has anyone else noticed that there is a virus spreading on surfaces of planets in some systems, forcing the local authorities to place bases in quarantine? I've seen it in Daibo (Koontz Asylum), Aditi (bases on Morrow Peek) and other systems I can't recall now. Was just wondering what everyone think is the reason for this... (it's reported in the local galnet of those systems)
Winter is coming! Sounds like Thargoids might be getting the first attack in early.
Though I think space virus epidemics are part of the background simulation and might be expected at random times.
Has anyone else noticed that there is a virus spreading on surfaces of planets in some systems, forcing the local authorities to place bases in quarantine? I've seen it in Daibo (Koontz Asylum), Aditi (bases on Morrow Peek) and other systems I can't recall now. Was just wondering what everyone think is the reason for this... (it's reported in the local galnet of those systems)
I had tried to keep up with this, especially after the weird fungus trees were found, but it was too much in addition to trying to keep track of the stations experiencing strange technical problems and malfunctions. Contact with foreign life always brings new diseases.
I had tried to keep up with this, especially after the weird fungus trees were found, but it was too much in addition to trying to keep track of the stations experiencing strange technical problems and malfunctions. Contact with foreign life always brings new diseases.
A few days ago I saw an article about two people discussing how they were going to deal with the body and whether they should report it to the authorities. Since there were no apparent signs of external damage to the body, they were worried that the authorites would have blamed them for the death. I can't remember the specific words i am afraid. I discounted that as some additional details to the body found in COL 70 but I'm not so sure it was in reference to that now. I just had this thought that maybe the infectious disease originated near COL 70 (where they found the body) and it's spreading towards SOL. Or perhaps originated in the Pleiades, where the barnacles were found.
Unfortunately I can't read the cockpit display on my ipad, but thanks for trying. Did you try this at different locations or only at the coordinates you previously posted? A decrease in gravity with decrease in height is a bit surprising.
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Winter is coming! Sounds like Thargoids might be getting the first attack in early.
Though I think space virus epidemics are part of the background simulation and might be expected at random times.
Unfortunately I can't read the cockpit display on my ipad, but thanks for trying. Did you try this at different locations or only at the coordinates you previously posted? A decrease in gravity with decrease in height is a bit surprising.
I tried other craters on other planets in different systems and can't reproduce same behavior.
On HIP 21484 Planet 3, it seems that this behavior can be observed on any craters deeper than 1000m. Basically any time you are 1000m below the planet's main surface, gravity starts reversing and goes from 1.82g to 1.81g.
EDIT: Still testing other craters and will try a different planet in same system.
[Cynical hat on]
The work experience kid probably forgot to press the button that inserts the code, and no one's noticed. Except us...
[/cynical hat off]
I still don't understand how they even made it out there. I've heard people say the FSD's they had should have been on par with 2b or 2a, he didn't give any reasons though and I can't find anything to back this up. I know they found some weird jump drive stuff that was at least 20 yrs old in the prism system, so maybe they had something better, or maybe they cheated and used "dark space", but this is the most confusing part of the whole deal for me is how the hell they made it out there with worse tech than we have now?
As for "dark space" I originally thought the "seven veils" was a set of some seven jump we had to make in a certain order (like a combo lock) to line up with a "dark space" collision, but Salome left her Tiara behind that one time and that was the first item Inna/Ishtar had to remove to get past the first gate to the underworld, so maybe the seven thing is more symbolic...but there are 6 other gates...
Actually, from memory, The range on those drives was pretty good, however, they took days to be ready to use again between jumps - hence why it took weeks to cross the bubble, instead of our 15 minutes (with the right ship) or less. Drew does have a run down on drive tech over the years on his site...
Well, IT has been there since the gamma, and IT's in/near/around the Formidine Rift, which is along the Reorte-Riedquat line (at the edge of the galactic arm and keep going); once you reach the Rift you’re going to have to plot a way across, though no one has gone past the Rift and lived to tell the tale. So why haven't you found IT yet?
Edit: personally I would like to know what sort of thing IT actually is, because if it's a plot (which seems to me to fit all the clues) by an elitist cadre in Federation & Empire to hide preparations for their evacuation from the bubble to places of safety in the event of an alien attack whilst leaving the majority of humanity to face the pain then we've found 'it'. The FRift setlement bases and rally point beacons would have been 'it', and we have yet to become fully aware of the tapestry of threads which have been woven around this. That is what I hope to get from Salome in the 29th event.
However it might be something entirely different & that's the fundamental problem-we've never had any clue as to what sort of thing we've been looking for.
But they can't be, because they probably won't have been in the game in gamma - the surface bases, certainly would not have. It has ot be something we see, somehow, in the skybox.
Those two groups of bright stars still tickle my fancy, I approached the 'Rift form side one in my triangle trip, and noticed one looked like an Ocellus starport, and the other kinda like a praying mantis...
No, really! I'm not mad!
Also, I think we need to investigate Quince. I'm seeing some weird stuff on the surface there. I'll post some pics when I get home...
Some seriously cross-species mating going on there...
I've spent the last week grinding Federation rank trying to get into a FAS. Now I find out that I should have been grinding Forum rank instead. Even the non-game part of this game is a grind
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At least the bounties have been raised to a more respectable level.
Don't look at me like that! I'm not outfitting this Kill Warrant Scanner to chase Salome ... I was going to do some local bounty hunting in my home system. Honest.
I tried other craters on other planets in different systems and can't reproduce same behavior.
On HIP 21484 Planet 3, it seems that this behavior can be observed on any craters deeper than 1000m. Basically any time you are 1000m below the planet's main surface, gravity starts reversing and goes from 1.82g to 1.81g.
EDIT: Still testing other craters and will try a different planet in same system.
If you're going below the main surface level, then gravity should decrease the further down you go, so this sounds like it's working properly. It's odd if it's not working like this elsewhere, but it could just be that it's just an effect of number rounding as someone said previously, and this might be one of the few places whose gravity is close enough to the split point for the effect to be noticeable.
I tried other craters on other planets in different systems and can't reproduce same behavior.
On HIP 21484 Planet 3, it seems that this behavior can be observed on any craters deeper than 1000m. Basically any time you are 1000m below the planet's main surface, gravity starts reversing and goes from 1.82g to 1.81g.
EDIT: Still testing other craters and will try a different planet in same system.
If the surface has had a huge chunk of rock blasted out of it this could create local variance in gravity. Different densities of rock create variations.
If you're going below the main surface level, then gravity should decrease the further down you go, so this sounds like it's working properly. It's odd if it's not working like this elsewhere, but it could just be that it's just an effect of number rounding as someone said previously, and this might be one of the few places whose gravity is close enough to the split point for the effect to be noticeable.
If the surface has had a huge chunk of rock blasted out of it this could create local variance in gravity. Different densities of rock create variations.
I tried other craters on other planets in different systems and can't reproduce same behavior.
On HIP 21484 Planet 3, it seems that this behavior can be observed on any craters deeper than 1000m. Basically any time you are 1000m below the planet's main surface, gravity starts reversing and goes from 1.82g to 1.81g.
EDIT: Still testing other craters and will try a different planet in same system.
Ah, you might expect that since as you go below the surface level as there is planetary mass above you tending to cancel out the pull of the planetray mass below you. It's probably the way FD have implemented the gravitational calculation.
Pity, it would have fitted nicely with the recent clue about the body that was found and the gravitational anomaly before they all disappeared. I was all set to come out and join the search later today, once I've upgraded the booster and MC on my Cobra. I did get out to Maia yesterday to upgrade my Vulture to 5* Clean Thrusters & then remembered it has no srv to do a surface scan on Merope 5C.
[Cynical hat on]
The work experience kid probably forgot to press the button that inserts the code, and no one's noticed. Except us...
[/cynical hat off]
Actually, from memory, The range on those drives was pretty good, however, they took days to be ready to use again between jumps - hence why it took weeks to cross the bubble, instead of our 15 minutes (with the right ship) or less. Drew does have a run down on drive tech over the years on his site...
But they can't be, because they probably won't have been in the game in gamma - the surface bases, certainly would not have. It has ot be something we see, somehow, in the skybox.
Those two groups of bright stars still tickle my fancy, I approached the 'Rift form side one in my triangle trip, and noticed one looked like an Ocellus starport, and the other kinda like a praying mantis...
No, really! I'm not mad!
Also, I think we need to investigate Quince. I'm seeing some weird stuff on the surface there. I'll post some pics when I get home...
Some seriously cross-species mating going on there...
Sorry, my phrasing was confused. I should not try to read forum threads whilst watching TV. Yes, 'it' would have been the rally point beacons which could have been in-game since gamma but I remember Drew saying FD had updated the mystery as releases dropped so that would have been the surface bases with 2.1 ( but probably not properly tested at the time which was why the CTD was happening before Xmas & we needed the 2.2.03 drop to fix). The tapestry that we are dimly perceiving is all the stuff that comes on Galnet, apparently unrelated but which are all part of this plot- Sirius, Wreaken, hyperdrive experiments, the military convoys with "subjects" running amok, UAs, UPs, rally point beacons, listening posts.......
Well I've seen a pointing man in the stars, and a fish, so I'm willing to believe you (but picture evidence helps ).
Of course you're mad...you're a Rifter, QED!
I shall visit Quince in the next few days. Not been there yet. What sort of weird stuff on the surface? Pix please!
If Drew reveals the solution to the Rift mystery in Premonition there'll be a horde descending on his house with torches and pitchforks - and I'll be right at the front.
