thanks FD, DB.. thanks a lot
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I don't understand? How does moving away from a seasonal purchase system shaft lifetime pass owners?
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Its the Wizard's Shaft! I mean, the wand.
This is honestly a good move for us. One-off self-contained updates will put the onus on Frontier to actually deliver well-rounded, feature complete content that sells on merit rather than on promises.
And the "surprise" with 2.4 will be ......
That's all folks, until 3 ..... which is not due out until Christmas next year
The 2.4 'surprise' will be a cut scene of stars whizzing through the cosmos while a chorus of cherubs sing in the background.
"David B, this 2.4 patch, it's awful! "
DB:" Amazing to see so many of you playing!!.. "
But seriously, these forums need a captcha with the log in, with the 'match the signposts' test. I have a feeling it would reduce a number of these type of threads starting..
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Fuss over nothing. When the LEP was introduced in KS it was described as providing access to the game and any expansions. The "seasons" model and terminology weren't even a twinkle in anyone's eye at that point. Braben giveth and Braben taketh away, but I don't see how the value of the LEP has changed one iota. With Seasons you got access to any expansions but not cosmetics. Without seasons you'll get exactly the same.
I posted this in a thread that made comparisons between Arma 3's DLC updates and Elite's yesterday, focusing on the last paragraph there:
And if DB is doing what it says in the OP here then that just looks like they are moving to be more in line with other devs in the way they deliver updates over the longer term. Which I can't really say is a bad idea.
And if DB is doing what it says in the OP here then that just looks like they are moving to be more in line with other devs in the way they deliver updates over the longer term. Which I can't really say is a bad idea.
It means that 3.0 will probably be a full expansion with no point updates. We will have to wait until the whole of 3.0 is completed in house and released as one massive expansion.
No more point updates, but lifetime expansion owners should still get it, they paid for all expansions, regardless of how they are marketed or released.
No more point updates, but lifetime expansion owners should still get it, they paid for all expansions, regardless of how they are marketed or released.
I'd say it's more likely they'd sell each point update off piecemeal. They can't stomach the idea of going a full year or more without selling something new.
so instead of £40 for a year, we'll get ripped off at £10 per 0.1 update
sad thing is theres prob people dumb enough to think we are saving and fdev are doing it to benefit the players
sad thing is theres prob people dumb enough to think we are saving and fdev are doing it to benefit the players
Lifetime pass before today = all future updates without paying anything else.
Lifetime pass now = all future updates without paying anything else.
Give your head a wobble son.
I know right? I had that Braben round here last week, said I had two choices; either I buy a console and play the game on that or he's going to send Sandy and Ed round to smash my PC up and then I won't be able to play anything. What a bloody cheek. Now I find out they're completely abandoning PC development, shutting the servers down and making the game console only from next week. I can't imagine what they're thinking, asking people to pay money for a PC game and then pulling a stunt like this!
... or something. Now if you'll excuse me I'm off for a nice refreshing pint of Toilet Duck before bed.
People dumb enough to think that buying four point updates for a tenner each would in any way be the same as buying those four point updates with exactly the same overall content in a single update for £40? I know, some people are really dumb aren't they?
Also, if you paid £40 for 'a year' they'd already have ripped you off because you would only have got 2.1 and 2.2 for your £40, assuming that you're using the Gregorian calendar. Still on the bright side, if you only paid for a year's updates you've got one for free today
In all seriousness, you can't make any kind of assessment of value for money like this. You can only do that by considering the actual content to be delivered in an update with the actual price for that update and then making a value judgement about it. Since none of us know either of those things yet, what we have here is about as classic a hysterical Frontier Forums bawww thread as I have ever seen, based on nothing but hot air and people's desperate desire to make themselves miserable.
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I think they should continue with the season update and also offer a"Special,daddies little princess version" at the end of the season.
As a lifetime pass owner: This is correct. I don't care when they will deliver the next season, I have already paid it!
I find it staggering that they are thinking of changing the season expansions because some people whine and moan about spending £40 to get a years worth of updates.
..the same people who toss away £80 a week on candy crush and other freemium trash on their phone. ugh.. crazy.
if it's not broke, don't fix it
They're changing the season pass model because season passes don't make for good publicity. Season passes ask you to pay for the promise of future content, it's rather shady business and tends to generate more skepticism and cynicism than goodwill amongst your customers.
But between sales of ED+H on various platforms + Planet Coaster, Frontier must be sitting on a comfortable money cushion which should now allow them to slow down on the whole preorder thing and instead start selling features after they are done developping them, or at the very least sell them one at a time.
I don't see why you as a customer would get upset over this. As a LEP owner things wont change for you anyway, and for the rest of us it means we'll be able to have a more granular say in the way we support the game. And it also means Frontier feels more confident in their ability to go through the year without having to ask players for one big advance.
The decision to drop the season pass model, whether Frontier splits development into multiple paid modules or goes for a big yearly expansion (or both) is a good thing for you, for Frontier, and for the future of the game.
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Thank you for bringing sense into this thread... Yes, I would rather pay like this. Say I didn't want a feature added, but want all the others, I could save money by buying the features I want and not the ones I don't.
Good thing about the change is that the burden is on the devs to create something we actually want to buy. No more selling promises, potential, or "first steps towards . . .".
The bad thing is that if the first couple DLCs don't sell as well as they need them to, they'll stop working on the game altogether.
The bad thing is that if the first couple DLCs don't sell as well as they need them to, they'll stop working on the game altogether.