Ship name censored - turn off

[SeaFireliv]

Take it up with your government then. I don't think FD or this forum has the power to enact or ignore legislation in (say) the UK, US or Germany. Personally I think PC does go too far sometimes (see the Black Lives matter campaign group here in the UK if you need a laugh), but the game's PEGI rating is what it is. GTA has a different rating and things are very different in that world

Not a government issue regarding games. Plenty of games get by with `offensive` content. Run Fallout 4 and see the names you can name your character and watch it get repeated audibly. The fear is from certain groups that bully weak-kneed companies, wrecking all things. Also some companies manipulating people to make a profit, even if it means putting people against eachother to do it.

I despise BLM, they do nothing but create a rift among people. in fact the British have treated Black people way better in history than the US. But that`s another story.

 

[IndigoWyrd]

Up with guns?

Absolutely.

There's nothing at all wrong with guns. They're just tools, no different than a screwdriver, ice pick, or knife.
On their own, guns are inanimate objects, capable of doing nothing more than gathering dust.
No gun has ever killed anyone on its own, just like no fork has ever made anyone fat on its own.

And to think we live in a perfectly safe little world, where everyone loves each other is pure disillusionment. And relying on others to provide for your own protection is like walking in the rain expecting not to get wet.

 

[Noctover]

Absolutely.

There's nothing at all wrong with guns. They're just tools, no different than a screwdriver, ice pick, or knife.
On their own, guns are inanimate objects, capable of doing nothing more than gathering dust.
No gun has ever killed anyone on its own, just like no fork has ever made anyone fat on its own.

And to think we live in a perfectly safe little world, where everyone loves each other is pure disillusionment. And relying on others to provide for your own protection is like walking in the rain expecting not to get wet.

Lol i'm not even going to open this can of worms in this thread other than to say your countries history of shootings speaks for its-self.

 

[SeaFireliv]

my ship's name originally was cockpit orgie...

they censored the first four letters in cockpit roflmao

Ridiculous.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Ok, so what we have here currently is a profanity filter that dialled up to 11. For the time being that's probably sensible.

What I expect is that in time it will be given a list of exceptions ('cockpit', 'assume', etc) but right now I'm quite happy that they're working on fixing real problems.

 

[Rob At Work]

Make your own game and target your own demographics, nobody is stopping you. As a parent I appreciate Frontier's attitude toward rude words.

As a parent I would have agreed with you.
But as now as a Grandparent IDGAS.

 

[CMDR CPT. Boris]

I'm fine with words i use to look often on the internet :x

I don't mind and won't feel offended, would be nice to be able to choose whether or not you want to activate the filter

 

[rajziel]

He may not encounter me. I am not forcing anyone to encounter me. And i do not want to use offensive names. I would like to see all names, even from people who want to use different than political correctness names. I would like to see what paople got on mind, who they are.
For example: i just felt offended by your nickname now, because i am oversensitive. Should you be banned?

We are not talking about swearing what are common known offensive words. Thats obvious. But cucumber or "moby " are wrong?
There is a difference, between a reasonable mask of swearings what anyone here will agree, and stupid political corectness.

Best point of engagement are real world car and ship nameplates. What is allowed in RL is not offensive to people and is allowed by local law, and these things should be also avaiable in-game. They are in public domain where are also little childrens and hypersensitive people but these nameplates has been allowed to use. Same things should be allowed here.

So we are talking about not removing the filter completely to allow offensive language but relaxing the strictness of it?
fair enough

 

[SeaFireliv]

As a parent I would have agreed with you.
But as now as a Grandparent IDGAS.

Parents should watch their own children, not rely on companies and the state to do it for them. That`s part of this problem and why we have this stupid Nanny State. Take responsibility. Check what games your kids play. YOU should be the censor, not the Government or the company.

 

[Winterwalker]

In the early 21st we might all think censorship is all a bit of a drag .. but then again so is the death penalty in many places. Try telling that to the starports turbo-lasers though, when you try to dock with a 200cr bounty on yer.

So, if only because it might force people to be creative in their cussing .. non-issue thread of the day! Repped.

 

[rajziel]

As I said, I'm not offended. I do a lot of motorway driving, so I use that word a lot.
I have always understood it to mean "stupid c...", and therefore more pejorative than the c word. The fact that you used it in a post praising the virtues of censorship (specifically censorship of "rude" words) is baffling.

see for me, the c word isnt even related anymore to it, and I know it's origins come from there.
Plenty of people use it as just another word for moron etc

but it does kind of highlight another point I made that FD need to keep working on any profanity filter as language does evolve

 

[CMDR CPT. Boris]

I loled

 

[Dyrre]

Make your own game and target your own demographics, nobody is stopping you. As a parent I appreciate Frontier's attitude toward rude words.

Filtering out rude, complete words WOULD be smart and not impossible task at all for the devs. Auto-filtering out donkey-synonyms so A S S (Alliance StarShip) Rattler becomes ***Rattler is just damn lazy, don't you think?

However, someone from the legal section got nice bonus for consulting the FD's and they went with the cheap and easy solution, there shan't be no ships showing the name Cucumber! That's Cu***ber for the responsible adults, should the kids ask.

 

[Lori Jameson]

If you go out anywhere in public you'll find people getting beaten up, robbed, stabbed and racially abused as well. These are part of the "real world" too. Should we consider those acceptable just because a minority, like the minority who swear, like to do them?

Should we also consider gassing people in Syria, torturing people in North Korea, and detention without trial in China acceptable just because a minority choose to do them?

You might consider these examples extreme, and they are, but a line has to be drawn somewhere. If you let people get away with the minor offences, then it can only escalate to other things.

Yet Revolution Inc. can request for pesticide to be turned into chemical weapons. Niets and Daramo was a thing, genocide in ingame too. So is slavery. So is the shaming of a certian female senator whom suffer's from pattern baldness. Yet I can't hear explitives exclaimed when a fighter craft malfunctions.

 

[Kaltern]

How has this thread gone from censoring words and phrases unsuitable for 7yr olds, to gassing people with chemical weapons and fighting the state?

I'll say it again, slowly for those unable to understand English.

The. Game. Is. Rated. PEGI. 7.

Therefore, Frontier must either

a) Adhere to the rules they voluntarily agreed to
or
b) Change their rating, which would change the game to at least a PEGI 16, and would easily lose them a large chunk of their playerbase (legally, we know that wouldn't actually happen).

The censor is there because Frontier agreed to the rules when they decided to adhere to the PEGI system of game rating. Arguing about how bad words don't bother 'you', or that other games have it much worse, is completely pointless and irrelevant - and I actually think the mods should probably close this topic, as it is getting more and more 'angry'.

Trust me. Noone is going to ignore a rating that has been self-imposed. It would be a PR nightmare for one.

 

[IndigoWyrd]

How has this thread gone from censoring words and phrases unsuitable for 7yr olds, to gassing people with chemical weapons and fighting the state?

I'll say it again, slowly for those unable to understand English.

The. Game. Is. Rated. PEGI. 7.

Therefore, Frontier must either

a) Adhere to the rules they voluntarily agreed to
or
b) Change their rating, which would change the game to at least a PEGI 16, and would easily lose them a large chunk of their playerbase (legally, we know that wouldn't actually happen).

The censor is there because Frontier agreed to the rules when they decided to adhere to the PEGI system of game rating. Arguing about how bad words don't bother 'you', or that other games have it much worse, is completely pointless and irrelevant - and I actually think the mods should probably close this topic, as it is getting more and more 'angry'.

Trust me. Noone is going to ignore a rating that has been self-imposed. It would be a PR nightmare for one.

There's a simpler solution - publicly denounce the Ratings Systems (PEGI/ESRB) not just a single developer, but in a gathering of developers - industry wide. State the truth we all already know - that these ratings are arbitrary and meaningless as they are not only not enforced but cannot be enforced.

Sure, we all know the guy at the game store is SUPPOSED to ask, but we also know they don't give a rat's unwashed business end about who buys what. They're there to make money.
And what happens if Johnny 10 year old happens to buy a copy of Grand Theft Auto IX? Do the police come and shut down the business? Arrest Billy Gamejockey? No. Maybe some news station with nothing else to report on tries a bit of public shaming, but that's about it. Most people roll their eyes, and no one cares.
It's not like they're selling drugs, alcohol or tobacco. They're selling games.

And let's not forget, even if Johnny 10 Yearold gets told "No, you're too young to buy that", he's just going to cry at his mommy and she'll buy it for him to shut him up. And the almighty ratings system goes swirling down the drain once more.

Why? Because they really are nothing more than a bunch of powerless, meaningless, unimportant nosy folk who think they know better than anyone else - especially when it comes to raising children which many of them do not and with any luck will not ever have of their own.

 

[Lestat]

Go play a game that let you play with Foul mouth and foul names. Leave Elite Dangerous alone. I have my Nephew playing the game and dose not need to see that.

 

[ZeroAi]

Hello,

How to turn off censorship in shipnames? I would like to see uncensored shipnames on other players ships.
I can deal with it can be offensive and swearing.

If it is not possible, maybe it will be good to give an option to 'turn off censor' for player who decide to see everything/

Dude, leave those censored names censored by default!

I also have no desire to see what dumb vulgar names the "man-babies" come up with...

 

[Iori]

Ship names count as "Online interactions"

And those can't be rated by the ESRB. Many games issue this warning at the beginning. Problem solved.

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You should be ashamed, your post has destroyed the innocence of all the children reading this thread.

 

[nanite2000]

There's a simpler solution - publicly denounce the Ratings Systems (PEGI/ESRB) not just a single developer, but in a gathering of developers - industry wide. State the truth we all already know - that these ratings are arbitrary and meaningless as they are not only not enforced but cannot be enforced.

Come on now - we both know that's *not* the simpler solution, any more than it's simpler to just ignore the law and live virtuously.