What's with all the guys using female avatars?

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Is this forum really so bored?

Really?

Let this asinine crap die.
This thread will die off in its own time, as many similar ones have before it. But be assured the topic will arise again, on this forum and on many others in the future.

When gamers become less concerned about sex, gender and sexuality, then the topic will stop reappearing altogether.
 
Sarcasm is neither aggression nor accusation. The first reason you gave for your choice - that you like looking at women and therefore choose female characters - is a rationalisation very frequently offered by men playing women in games, and often in response to implications that they are somehow less manly for doing so. This has been discussed countless times on countless forums, including this one, and recently in this very thread.

Denying that directing sarcasm directly towards another's gender identity is an aggressive behavior, pretty much invalidates every opinion you've given in this thread.
 

Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
This thread will die off in its own time, as many similar ones have before it. But be assured the topic will arise again, on this forum and on many others in the future.

When gamers become less concerned about sex, gender and sexuality, then the topic will stop reappearing altogether.

I've been around this forum for a long time, and I absolutely agree with you.

It's just one of those neverending subjects, like PvE/PvP that never go away.
 
I've been around this forum for a long time, and I absolutely agree with you.

It's just one of those neverending subjects, like PvE/PvP that never go away.

One would hope that in time we'll only worry about the in-game stuff. Gamers will never stop trying to design by proxy. After all, the customer is always right.... ( I don;t believe that either.) There is hope, with time, education, and tolerance that as a society we will just accept what people do on it's face value. That is what they decided to do, and move on. Each generation gets one step closer.
 
Fortunately I don't require you to validate my opinions.

No one who lives in a box does.

Poor you, having to endure the fact that not everyone is as enlightened as you. Not that you are going to do the courageous thing and help the less fortunate. Nope, you're just going to be lazy and complain like any other troll.
 
One would hope that in time we'll only worry about the in-game stuff. Gamers will never stop trying to design by proxy. After all, the customer is always right.... ( I don;t believe that either.) There is hope, with time, education, and tolerance that as a society we will just accept what people do on it's face value. That is what they decided to do, and move on. Each generation gets one step closer.
There is certainly a general trend in that direction. It can be difficult to see it sometimes, particularly during those times when society's regressive elements seem louder than normal (and I'd venture we're in one of those times at the moment). But progress made isn't soon forgotten, I think: what's achieved once with great hardship can be taken away, but once the precedent has been set and the benefits seen, the path to regaining it becomes a little easier.
 
Fortunately I don't require you to validate my opinions.
Sarcasm is aggressive and very negative to boot, as per definition

noun
1.
harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2.
a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark:


Just you know, fyi, just saying.
 

Yaffle

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Folks

Cut out the personal attacks, and step away from the handbags. Male or female avatar or for real.

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Sarcasm is aggressive and very negative to boot, as per definition

noun
1.
harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2.
a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark:


Just you know, fyi, just saying.

Indeed? Well, since I cannot very well argue with a dictionary definition:

Jhyrryl, I apologise for offending you with my aggressive and accusatory behaviour - and indeed I will extend that apology to anyone else who may have been offended by my remarks.

I will leave it to each of you whether you wish to pursue the matter further. A report to the moderators would not seem disproportionate under the circumstances.

In the meantime, I will endeavour to ensure that I do not engage in any further such ill-considered and irrational behaviour.
 
Indeed? Well, since I cannot very well argue with a dictionary definition:

Jhyrryl, I apologise for offending you with my aggressive and accusatory behaviour - and indeed I will extend that apology to anyone else who may have been offended by my remarks.

I will leave it to each of you whether you wish to pursue the matter further. A report to the moderators would not seem disproportionate under the circumstances.

In the meantime, I will endeavour to ensure that I do not engage in any further such ill-considered and irrational behaviour.
I can't fault you for not thinking so, there's an enormous amount of people seemingly brought up that sarcasm is not aggressive or such, goes with a lot other manners of speech /meaning of words out there, I'm not a native english speaker, so I take special note with words especially if I get confused, but it is almost as if sarcasm and other kinds of speaking have become a dialect in themselves.
 
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I can't fault you for not thinking so, there's an enormous amount of people seemingly brought up that sarcasm is not aggressive or such, goes with a lot other manners of speech /meaning of words out there, I'm not a native english speaker, so I take special note with words especially if I get confused, but it is almost as if sarcasm and other kinds of speaking have become a dialect in themselves.
Thank you. As I said, I will take greater care in the future. I'm afraid it is a flaw of mine to be a little too impulsive in my choice of words, especially in a discussion I'm interested in. I will try to eliminate this tendency.
 
I've encountered 16 commanders in the last week or so as I live in the quieter places and only one had a female avatar. It's a sausage fest out there.

I don't think the premise of this thread is all it's cracked up to be.
 
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You need to Learn2JigglyBumBum ;)

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Especially in 3rd person games I pick female avatars. It's not hard to understand, I prefer looking at women's (fem-alien's) bottoms, hence female avatars.

Note: I have nothing against anyone who makes alternative lifestyle choices, if you like men's bottoms i'm cool with that.

And you still don't see how objectifying women (or female aliens) is wrong. You're mother must be so proud.

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Folks

Cut out the personal attacks, and step away from the handbags. Male or female avatar or for real.

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I think you were trying for funny.

You came off as condescending and demeaning.
 
And you still don't see how objectifying women (or female aliens) is wrong. You're mother must be so proud.

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I think you were trying for funny.

You came off as condescending and demeaning.
No, he came off as a moderator, which he is. Maybe let's get back to the subject as opposed to those posting in it. I think the correlation between choosing a female avatar in game and objectifying women is weak, just as is the correlation between violence in games and violent behaviour in life. In fact, if we are to discuss abhorrent in game behaviour as a sign of real life perversion and the willingness to dehumanise others, then perhaps someone ought to address the fact that we trade slaves (actually I avoid that), commit mass murder on a regular basis and smuggle weapons and narcotics. No one seems to take issues with those and yet a boy chooses to use a female avatar and suddenly he's a mysogynistic pervert. I think that is an absurd point of view and that it actually detracts from the fight against real objectification and dehumanisation of others.
 
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This thread will die off in its own time, as many similar ones have before it. But be assured the topic will arise again, on this forum and on many others in the future.

When gamers become less concerned about sex, gender and sexuality, then the topic will stop reappearing altogether.

Who wants to live in such a boring world?

Although when it turns into another stupid `objectifyyyiiiing wimmin misogyneeee` whiny girl posts thread and boys sucking after them, then yea, i`d rather see no more of it.
 
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I am very consistent in my avatar picking.

Little old chinese lady in EVERY game.

I must make a montage of them all.
 
No, he came off as a moderator, which he is. Maybe let's get back to the subject as opposed to those posting in it. I think the correlation between choosing a female avatar in game and objectifying women is weak, just as is the correlation between violence in games and violent behaviour in life. In fact, if we are to discuss abhorrent in game behaviour as a sign of real life perversion and the willingness to dehumanise others, then perhaps someone ought to address the fact that we trade slaves (actually I avoid that), commit mass murder on a regular basis and smuggle weapons and narcotics. No one seems to take issues with those and yet a boy chooses to use a female avatar and suddenly he's a mysogynistic pervert. I think that is an absurd point of view and that it actually detracts from the fight against real objectification and dehumanisation of others.

Then why the need for the purse comment?

One of the posters said this:

Especially in 3rd person games I pick female avatars. It's not hard to understand, I prefer looking at women's (fem-alien's) bottoms, hence female avatars.

Note: I have nothing against anyone who makes alternative lifestyle choices,


1. He clearly, and categorically is objectifiying.
2. As a man this type of *thinking* really disgusts me - what kind of man would think this way? How would he like it if it was about his daughter, his wife, his sister or his mother? That most men can't show empathy is astounding to me. If he wouldn't then he's a hypocrite, if he would then he's a disgusting pig.
3. 'Alternative Lifestyle Choices'. What kind of pseudo politically correct language is that? We all know what he's saying, even if he's pretending to show understanding; he's saying that LGBT people make 'choices' to be LGBT - when science and rational thought proves otherwise.

You want to defend him? Then you tacitly agree with him.

That you've tried to word the issue in such a way as to appear to agree with it, yet don't understand or see it, clearly demonstrates the former as well.
 
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