THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

Hades the Arbitor

Hades the Arbitor
Matzov said:
Something occurred to me about the logs and our timeline.

Unless I am mistaken, there has been something of an assumption that the terraforming project carried out by Exodus (or Dynasty - whatever the project was called), was as a contingency again Alien Invasion of the home worlds. However, if one looks at the timeline, that does not stack up.

3200 or thereabouts: INRA supposedly released the mycoid virus to force a Thargoid retreat.
3270: The Exodus project takes place.
3302: New *apparent* Thargoid hyperdictions/sightings/'presence'.

My contention is - 70 years is quite a time to leave after the war is 'over' to set up a contingency plan out in an unknown area. Moreover, if that contingency was put into play because "someone" felt an impending threat of Thargoid invasion, then why was there no sign of them for another 30+ years. And having developed the 'mycoid' that worked so well before, why would human's be afraid (yes I accept that they may have wondered if a resistance had evolved, but as a base, mycoid could be used to develop a new virus surely?)

It leads me to strongly suspect that the Exodus project had little or nothing to do with Thargoids. I think it may have been a contingency against something else, perhaps homegrown in the bubble.

The 'weird noises and ghosts' in the Rift logs suggest some odd presence in that region, but it cannot be that presence that was being mitigated against. Not unless there were some terribly dumb people running the show: our contingency is to set up shop where the weird noises and ghosts are rather than somewhere else. No, I suspect that those noises and so on are a coincidence or just space madness. However, they may very well have been the reason for the terraforming to have failed/have been abandoned.

Which leads us back to the central questions. Who set up the project? Why? - what was the threat? - has another (successful) contingency been set-up elsewhere following this failure? Or has the threat passed/been superceded?
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You think along the same line as I do CMDR.

Hades the Arbitor said:
My tinfoil two-cents:

The Rift Mystery is not the ship itself, or the audio. It's WHY it is there, who sent it and for what purpose. (Hence, not a POI)

The organization that sent the ship had to have incredible wealth in the time the ship was built, crewed, and launched over 30 years ago. In order to hire the crew for the ship, the organization would also have to have had the outward perception of wealth to offer each crewman "enough to retire on." Regardless if they ever intended to pay it, it had to look like they could or people would not have joined up. More on money in a min.

The organization had the plan of killing the crew and hiding the mission from the start using black medical practices which points to a spy/intelligence organization.

It was crewed by humans that we assume launched from the core worlds and is why "R" is going back that way.

An organization like this would need a motive to drop this much capital into a mission. Money is one: When it becomes necessary to evacuate the core, the organization with the route, plan, and safe room has something that could be sold at an incredible price. (ELWs, terraformed planets, beacons, etc)

What organization that was around 30+ years ago that had unlimited funds and stands to benefit the most from an event that would require evacuation on a mass scale?

Lastly, I doubt that the aliens have anything to do with this. They seem content with pulling me out of hyperspace 6 times in a row to say hi. If they wanted to they could have blasted me at any time. That does not seem to be their plan.

[takes off tin hat]

see you on the 29th...
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[VR] optimal_909

[VR] optimal_909
Matzov said:
Something occurred to me about the logs and our timeline.

Unless I am mistaken, there has been something of an assumption that the terraforming project carried out by Exodus (or Dynasty - whatever the project was called), was as a contingency again Alien Invasion of the home worlds. However, if one looks at the timeline, that does not stack up.

3200 or thereabouts: INRA supposedly released the mycoid virus to force a Thargoid retreat.
3270: The Exodus project takes place.
3302: New *apparent* Thargoid hyperdictions/sightings/'presence'.

My contention is - 70 years is quite a time to leave after the war is 'over' to set up a contingency plan out in an unknown area. Moreover, if that contingency was put into play because "someone" felt an impending threat of Thargoid invasion, then why was there no sign of them for another 30+ years. And having developed the 'mycoid' that worked so well before, why would human's be afraid (yes I accept that they may have wondered if a resistance had evolved, but as a base, mycoid could be used to develop a new virus surely?)

It leads me to strongly suspect that the Exodus project had little or nothing to do with Thargoids. I think it may have been a contingency against something else, perhaps homegrown in the bubble.

The 'weird noises and ghosts' in the Rift logs suggest some odd presence in that region, but it cannot be that presence that was being mitigated against. Not unless there were some terribly dumb people running the show: our contingency is to set up shop where the weird noises and ghosts are rather than somewhere else. No, I suspect that those noises and so on are a coincidence or just space madness. However, they may very well have been the reason for the terraforming to have failed/have been abandoned.

Which leads us back to the central questions. Who set up the project? Why? - what was the threat? - has another (successful) contingency been set-up elsewhere following this failure? Or has the threat passed/been superceded?
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The rest of the expeditions to the Conflux and Hawking's gap featured Thargoid-alike stuff going around (hyperdictions) AFAIK, so I think the Formidine Rift and the Thargoids are probably linked. The way this can unfold are limitless, but I could imagine some kind of terrible weapon of mass destruction was developed to counter future invasions, perhaps this is why the Thargoids are cautious to attack us too.
 

Gimi

Gimi
Matzov said:
Which leads us back to the central questions. Who set up the project? Why? - what was the threat? - has another (successful) contingency been set-up elsewhere following this failure? Or has the threat passed/been superceded?
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[tinfoil hat]
Maybe those worlds were not being prepared for humans at all. Maybe someone aims to profit from someone's return?
[tinfoil hat off]
 
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G4RY

G4RY
Just been having a chat with a friendly Russian dude at The Zurara in open play, he seems to think there are another ship or two within the rift somewhere judging from the Second additional log. What are the chances he is right?


Or is she old woman referring to Hawkin's and Conflux when she say's "Because they needed waypoint's, Three different zones it would seem"

Is it possible there is something further out from The Zurara. Eafots bases being one waypoint, The Zurara the next waypoint, then something after??
 
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lorrad

lorrad
Frankymole said:
So the Formidine Rift mystery has been officially solved, all bar the 29th April event that is upcoming? Is it the Zurara mega-ship?: https://www.drewwagar.com/announcements/deep-in-the-formidine-rift/
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I prefer to think of it as we're done with the first book Reclamation,,,

"The holofac faded, leaving them with just the text 'Syreadiae JX-F c0'".

More an introduction to the mystery of the Rift than it's solution.

I find I must believe that,

"Mom!"
'I felt so sorry for her. She needs the money for college'
"They all say that, it's the oldest trick in book."
'She was so nice and had tea with me.'
"You can't even lift the damn thing!"
'We talked all afternoon.'

the $2500 Kirby vacuum really is the best on the market.
 

-Denali-

D
Matzov said:
Something occurred to me about the logs and our timeline.

Unless I am mistaken, there has been something of an assumption that the terraforming project carried out by Exodus (or Dynasty - whatever the project was called), was as a contingency again Alien Invasion of the home worlds. However, if one looks at the timeline, that does not stack up.

3200 or thereabouts: INRA supposedly released the mycoid virus to force a Thargoid retreat.
3270: The Exodus project takes place.
3302: New *apparent* Thargoid hyperdictions/sightings/'presence'.

My contention is - 70 years is quite a time to leave after the war is 'over' to set up a contingency plan out in an unknown area. Moreover, if that contingency was put into play because "someone" felt an impending threat of Thargoid invasion, then why was there no sign of them for another 30+ years. And having developed the 'mycoid' that worked so well before, why would human's be afraid (yes I accept that they may have wondered if a resistance had evolved, but as a base, mycoid could be used to develop a new virus surely?)

It leads me to strongly suspect that the Exodus project had little or nothing to do with Thargoids. I think it may have been a contingency against something else, perhaps homegrown in the bubble.

The 'weird noises and ghosts' in the Rift logs suggest some odd presence in that region, but it cannot be that presence that was being mitigated against. Not unless there were some terribly dumb people running the show: our contingency is to set up shop where the weird noises and ghosts are rather than somewhere else. No, I suspect that those noises and so on are a coincidence or just space madness. However, they may very well have been the reason for the terraforming to have failed/have been abandoned.

Which leads us back to the central questions. Who set up the project? Why? - what was the threat? - has another (successful) contingency been set-up elsewhere following this failure? Or has the threat passed/been superceded?
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They didn't need the contingency plan for that long because they managed to control the cure to the thargoid virus for that long. Once the cure got out they feared retribution.
 

Matzov

Matzov
-Denali- said:
They didn't need the contingency plan for that long because they managed to control the cure to the thargoid virus for that long. Once the cure got out they feared retribution.
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How would they know the Thargoids had developed a resistance to it? Why then set up the contingency where there are signs of Thargoid or 'other' alien presence.

And also, as I said before:
And having developed the 'mycoid' that worked so well before, why would human's be afraid (yes I accept that they may have wondered if a resistance had evolved, but as a base, mycoid could be used to develop a new virus surely?)

I'm sorry, it does not make sense in the slightest.
 

-Denali-

D
Matzov said:
How would they know the Thargoids had developed a resistance to it? Why then set up the contingency where there are signs of Thargoid or 'other' alien presence.

And also, as I said before:
And having developed the 'mycoid' that worked so well before, why would human's be afraid (yes I accept that they may have wondered if a resistance had evolved, but as a base, mycoid could be used to develop a new virus surely?)

I'm sorry, it does not make sense in the slightest.
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INRA had the cure (the took it from another human group) and in turn it was stolen from them. Eventually it was smuggled to the Thargoids by members of the newly founded Alliance.
 

Tanksy

T
Fairly new to Elite, and I'm already looking into this Formidine Rift stuff. Thinking of flying over there, although I'm currently nose deep in the Coalsack nebula doing some exploration out here. Not sure where to start, should I head over to the Zukara? (That's the Megaship's name, right?). I got a DBX, kitted it out and will be returning home to Shamo system to get an FSD upgrade. Soon I should have 35ly jump capability, and I have materials required to boost that with Injections. Is that enough to get me over there?
 

Toffmeister

Toffmeister
Matzov said:
Something occurred to me about the logs and our timeline.

Unless I am mistaken, there has been something of an assumption that the terraforming project carried out by Exodus (or Dynasty - whatever the project was called), was as a contingency again Alien Invasion of the home worlds. However, if one looks at the timeline, that does not stack up.

3200 or thereabouts: INRA supposedly released the mycoid virus to force a Thargoid retreat.
3270: The Exodus project takes place.
3302: New *apparent* Thargoid hyperdictions/sightings/'presence'.

My contention is - 70 years is quite a time to leave after the war is 'over' to set up a contingency plan out in an unknown area. Moreover, if that contingency was put into play because "someone" felt an impending threat of Thargoid invasion, then why was there no sign of them for another 30+ years. And having developed the 'mycoid' that worked so well before, why would human's be afraid (yes I accept that they may have wondered if a resistance had evolved, but as a base, mycoid could be used to develop a new virus surely?)

It leads me to strongly suspect that the Exodus project had little or nothing to do with Thargoids. I think it may have been a contingency against something else, perhaps homegrown in the bubble.

The 'weird noises and ghosts' in the Rift logs suggest some odd presence in that region, but it cannot be that presence that was being mitigated against. Not unless there were some terribly dumb people running the show: our contingency is to set up shop where the weird noises and ghosts are rather than somewhere else. No, I suspect that those noises and so on are a coincidence or just space madness. However, they may very well have been the reason for the terraforming to have failed/have been abandoned.

Which leads us back to the central questions. Who set up the project? Why? - what was the threat? - has another (successful) contingency been set-up elsewhere following this failure? Or has the threat passed/been superceded?
Click to expand...

Indeed, nothing about what has been uncovered explains why the permit locking of such a swathe of space. It's not over by any stretch of the imagination.
 
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