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News Changes Coming to Multi-crew
- Thread starter Edward Lewis
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Don't have an opinion on the payouts, really.
But the changes to Multicrew as far as toggles for SLF/utility mount/weaponry availability are more than welcome.
But the changes to Multicrew as far as toggles for SLF/utility mount/weaponry availability are more than welcome.
Very good to hear, these are positive changes and it's good to see FDev is willing to listen to the community and making the game more enjoyable. Good job and always good to hear from the devs!
Great news.
Most of this drama could've been avoided with a simple "We're aware of the complaints, we're looking into tweaking the stats, we'll let you know once we have something concrete" post.
Perhaps something to keep in mind for the future.
Looking forward to the update, hopefully it will be enough to bring my already bored friends back.
PS.
Wing + MC, MC SRVs and MC missions also need to happen. Please don't forget about that.
Most of this drama could've been avoided with a simple "We're aware of the complaints, we're looking into tweaking the stats, we'll let you know once we have something concrete" post.
Perhaps something to keep in mind for the future.
Looking forward to the update, hopefully it will be enough to bring my already bored friends back.
PS.
Wing + MC, MC SRVs and MC missions also need to happen. Please don't forget about that.
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Hm, at least a step in the right direction but... I really don't like that my friends will be punished for playing mc with me as helm then rather with another guy who is just expert, only because I'm deadly and later elite... so now to be elite is a negative thing if you want to help your friends.
Well, I give you people a lot of flak, but that is very much appreciated. Thanks a lot! Still, could you please elaborate what the reasoning behind capping multicrew payout at 80% is?
I get your intention - no risk free piggy-backing of new players on advanced players' ships and profits. Sounds reasonable, now that advanced players are no longer strongly discouraged by severely limited payouts. But as an activity in a PvE capacitiy, where these payouts seem most relevant, multi-crew is a form of cooperative play and in direct competition with playing as a Wing.
What is the reasoning behind giving Wings a full and symmetrical payout (imo very reasonable and long overdue, unless cooperative PvE is considered something to be discouraged), while an Elite multicrew player still loses 20% of the payouts? Just because their ship is not at stake? Why 20%? Why not 10%? Why not 25%? What if they just participate with a Sidewinder in a Wing, gets full payout, but has far lower stakes than the 20% they lose?
It seems to be the number is rather arbitrary. A 100% percent payout for cremember with combat rank equal or higher to the helm's would do away with the Wings vs. Multicrew competition in terms of payout. And in terms of reduced risk? Frankly, I'd say controlling turrets as a veteran player has other disadvantages unrelated to credits. Like being reduced to controlling turrets or fighters, rather than their own ship
And as an exploit? 100% vs. 80% isn't that far away for passively collecting credits and whoever tries to bounty hunt as an exploit for quickly gaining credits is doing something wrong. ^^
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Better but still not great. Anyone wants to crew my fighters on the Cutter is welcome to it but I'm still not boarding someone else's ship if it means I'm taking a hit. I'm sorry.
yeah we had a beta and we heard you complain about stuff on literally all other sources but the 10% of the community that posts on the forum said that its okay and it is IMMERSIVE and only the opinion of 50 year olds that dont even play the game because they need to take care of their wife's son matters
Age and sex prejudices in a single sentence, albeit a lengthy sentence, FTW!
thanks for the update. It's great to see the mechanics made transparent. Initial reactions is it is an improvement, especially for experienced players, but even new players do well out of it if they only play with other inexperienced players.
I believe this is the first time Ranks have had a major impact on game mechanics (besides permits) and I worry this system will drive a wedge between new and old players of the game and discourage them from interacting.
I believe this is the first time Ranks have had a major impact on game mechanics (besides permits) and I worry this system will drive a wedge between new and old players of the game and discourage them from interacting.
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Do you not think a pay cut is fair when you have 0 risk being crew of someone else's ship? How is it fair to the helm to have all the risk of losing their ship and the crew gets the same reward?
Very nice. I think that covers the main concerns people have had regarding MC, with the obvious exception of the networking issues. But presume the team are hard at work trying to get that sorted anyway.
Love the people here.
Fdevs come up with an absolutely unacceptable and completely unfair choice of game design once again.
People rage, reach for their pitchforks, threats to quit the game forever.
Frontier stays in silence for a few weeks and loose the grip just a leeeettle tiny bit making the previous choice just slightly less negative, then everybody see them as merciful saviors, "Thank you Frontier, the game is great again! We should be grateful!" and completely forget where the root of the actual issue is.
Props to fdevs, it works every time.
Fdevs come up with an absolutely unacceptable and completely unfair choice of game design once again.
People rage, reach for their pitchforks, threats to quit the game forever.
Frontier stays in silence for a few weeks and loose the grip just a leeeettle tiny bit making the previous choice just slightly less negative, then everybody see them as merciful saviors, "Thank you Frontier, the game is great again! We should be grateful!" and completely forget where the root of the actual issue is.
Props to fdevs, it works every time.
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The risk vs. reward thing gets greatly overstated. It's a freetime activity. Cooperatively playing a video In a game where your progression is measured mostly by credits and an arbitrary rank. That is to be encouraged, not discouraged by pay cuts.
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