THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

I'll try and answer some of your questions about what the event is about.

I assume you're talking about the actual specifics, and not the background of the protagonists Salome and Raan Corsen and why they're being hunted? As that information has been documented on Galnet and forums threads for the past few months. Tsu Singh is a new character to everyone, one that we'll probably have to read about in the book as we know little about her, and Yuri has been added as to give the XBoX platform a chance to take part.


The original event that Drew wanted was a chase from A to B, across the frontier worlds and into the bubble. I was one of the organizers asked to see if this was feasible and interesting enough given the game limitations and instancing mechanics. Imho it wasn't, at least not in such a simplistic manner. One of three things would occur with that scenario, 1.. all the protagonist would die in the first 5 minutes - not much of event there then, or 2.. all of the protagonists would leave everyone in their wake and be gone in a flash - again not much of a climax for the book.. or 3 the server would melt with having so many people gathered in one location at one specific time (the Distant Worlds Sag-A* gathering taught me thats one scenario FD won't appreciate!).

So the event has effectively evolved into the following -

The protagonists will attempt to reach their destinations in the bubble, and those aligned to them, or opposed to them, have been encouraged to spread out across the frontier and deploy fleets at specific locations that the protagonist will attempt to run through. People who want to help them can fight for superiority in those locations and prevent blockades and camps from forming, while those who are opposed to the protagonists can attempt to chase down and outmaneuver the fugitives, or gain control of the hotspot regions that allies will be deployed at.

This allows several things. Firstly if players follow those guidelines, the event will be spread out over a larger area so the whole thing isn't based on one single focal point and stressing the servers. It allows players on both sides to use some tactics and strategy to out maneuver each other, they can deploy scouts and use intel to spy on each other (which is already happening), they have an opportunity to use tactics, deception, and put some thought into ship loadouts other than simply taking the fastest thing they have.. It basically turns what could have been one big Benny Hill chase (that could have left 90% of the players in their wake out at 46 Eridani) into something much more spread out and inclusive.

Groups and alliances have been forming for the last few weeks, on both sides. Individuals and lonewolf players are taking part and finding roles for themselves, be it scouting for either side, or infiltrating the various discords to gather intel that suits them if they're an opportunist bounty hunter. But like everyone involved, whether they get to directly interact with the flights or the players who are helping and opposing each other, it boils down to instancing. Anything on this scale will always be at the mercy of that.

In saying all that, there's a chance that all the protagonists will die in the first 5 minutes (I know some of you onlookers would love that! :)), but there's also a chance one or two of them could make it to their destinations too. Whatever happens people need to understand that nothing of this type or scale has been tried before (that we're aware of) so there is no blueprint to work from. We have no idea how it'll pan out - it could be a lag infested nightmare with people filling the forums with gripes that they never got to see the characters, and others will gripe that the protagonists died far too early and what a waste of time that was! Either way, not everyone will be happy. That's the only thing we're 100% sure of! But lets at least give it a go and see what happens.

I can say that CoR are not running the show here despite what some people think - so lets put that one to bed right here and now. They have shared role in helping Salome, but have nothing to do with the other 75% of this event! Other groups and factions are overseeing their parts in this. All in all this is a community effort that goes way beyond a bunch of roleplayers.

If you want to get involved there are discord servers set up on both sides where you can find more information.

PC Allied Server : https://discord.gg/7fnxgex

XBOX Allied Server : https://discord.gg/VhcwSTa

Those who want to see the protagonists fail, please feel free to open your own servers and get organized, there's still time. Or seek out players that have already done that for you. [up]

Thanks Erimus - I'm glad that you've avoided the potential Benny Hill scenario and I hope that the event is successful (regardless of my RP preferences).

Just two comments on your strategy, which I'm sure you've already considered:

1. 46 Eri is your biggest risk. I hope you have sufficient resources assigned there, as well as at the other checkpoints, or it will all end before it's really begun.
2. I hope the anti-Salome factions show up in sufficient numbers to make all your efforts worthwhile. They haven't been as public as the pro-Salome side, so are potentially less organized. It would suck just as much if nobody shows up as it would if it was all over in 5 mins.

From a pure storytelling perspective, I'm hoping that Salome gets where she needs to be and then just as she's about to speak, Alessia slits her throat ;)
Edit: Drew, you can put that ending in if you like ;)

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What is that stick thing people play snooker with?

Steve Davis?
 
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What's the RP reason behind that?

Obviously, the non-RP reason is that EDF doesn't want to be on the 'baddies' side of the event, but I'm curious about the justification :p

I have to say I am not a fan of the EDF. For a number of reasons. Chiefly they are died in the wool Feds, and the fed are the bad guys. It may also be 'EDF' the name of a rival energy supplier to my employer. Or it might be what it means 'Earth Defence League' Which to me smacks of the English Defence League. It just sound so ultra right wing and I picture them with shaven heads and jack boots. I guess that fits well with the Federation however. Or it could just be there leader having a big Caldari logo in the background on his forum pic... that would be more right wing corporate jar head stuff then.

I'm sure they are very nice people irl of course. This is rp after all.

Ye Gods! A reasoned reply!:eek:

*Faints*

Why thank you.

Oh...
 
Thanks Erimus - I'm glad that you've avoided the potential Benny Hill scenario and I hope that the event is successful (regardless of my RP preferences).

Just two comments on your strategy, which I'm sure you've already considered:

1. 46 Eri is your biggest risk. I hope you have sufficient resources assigned there, as well as at the other checkpoints, or it will all end before it's really begun.
2. I hope the anti-Salome factions show up in sufficient numbers to make all your efforts worthwhile. They haven't been as public as the pro-Salome side, so are potentially less organized. It would suck just as much if nobody shows up as it would if it was all over in 5 mins.

From a pure storytelling perspective, I'm hoping that Salome gets where she needs to be and then just as she's about to speak, Alessia slits her throat ;)

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Steve Davis?

On point 1, I agree. It could be over pretty quickly, but Drew wants a specific system to begin at, so that's what we go with (we'll all blame him if becomes a shooting-fish-in-a-barrel event) :D

On point 2, they've been awfully quite. Its disconcerting. I know they're plotting, and watching somewhere from the shadows!

Haha, yeah Alessia assassinating Salome? - what a twist that would be!
 
On point 1, I agree. It could be over pretty quickly, but Drew wants a specific system to begin at, so that's what we go with (we'll all blame him if becomes a shooting-fish-in-a-barrel event) :D

On point 2, they've been awfully quite. Its disconcerting. I know they're plotting, and watching somewhere from the shadows!

Haha, yeah Alessia assassinating Salome? - what a twist that would be!

I'm a little disappointed that I haven't been able to figure a way to roleplay the Independent Rift Explorers Alliance into either helping or hindering Salome.
My current plan is to try to identify the destination system so that I can be there waiting, tapping a foot impatiently ;)
 
I was going to post this a few days ago when people started saying that where being put off attending the event. Then I thought no. Then yes. Then no. So whilst I am back on yes, I will post.


Will I be going to the event? Yes, unless something RL stops me.

Will I be on the CoR allied discord? Yes.

So I am CoR? No. Just a friend, I have that nice logo in my sig to say so.

In simple terms I joined their discord channel for a few reasons. Chiefly for FoFID (Friend or Foe Identification). For both me and for others. I am freinds with CoR. Back when SMAC was based out of Morrina we where next door neighbours. But I also liked there RP and background. I'm actually not cockahoot about Salome. She often comes across as some eighteen year old entitled X-factor contestant**. However I am more pro 'reveal the truth' than 'let's let the rich asswipes who want us all as slave labour, fly faster then the speed limit in the outside lane, park their ships in disabled spots without a pass and park across two docking bays at the supermarket get away with what ever they are trying to get away with'. I'm looking at you Federation, Core Dynamincs and Sirius.

But I digress...

By going there all the hundreds of others, who have no idea who I am, and have never heard of me, might spot I am on there side before interdicting in the guaranteed 'god almighty cluster fornication under consent of the king' that this is going to be. It may also help me identify friends and foes as well.

Secondly, they do have good ship and fitting advice. I don't do much pvp in Elite at all. I did so much of it in EvE I'm kind of over it. So that advice is good. I'm not going to use those fittings (exactly) however as I am not going to be someone's flying interdiction module. No sir. I will have more shields and guns.

Which taps into the other thing I won't be doing: taking orders. When I was pvping in Eve it was sometimes at the head of 600 people. I'm used to giving orders, not taking them. Arrogant I know, but that's how it is.

Going to that discord also reminded me why I hate discord so much and love team speak. TS is just chat. Not reams of typed crap, gifs, videos and other claptrap with 1000000 channels to get lost in. But it also showed my something else that might put people off: Somewhere in my head, there is a dissertation on how social computer games show how groups of strangers self organise into quasi-military groups in the face of competition. It's human nature. When there are win conditions, people will naturally migrate towards doing anything and everything to maximise their advantages to win. That always leads to hierarchical structures with people who are skilled, knowledgeable and have almighty egos and mouths to go with them ending up at the top, giving orders (did I mention fleets and Eve?). And as I said, that absolutely puts people off.

But here is the thing. This is an event Drew wants everyone to feel they can take part in. There is nothing to force you to do anything other than what you want to do. I would join the discord, if only to take advantage of the fitting advice and so people can see you are on their side. Beyond that you are (regardless of what people seem to think with player created factions) an independent pilot.

Turn up. Fly around. Shoot stuff. Have no clue whatsoever, just like everyone else, what is going on. Enjoy it. Probably blow up once or twice. Not care because its pixels. Do something different to that res site. and most importantly...

Have fun.

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**I do not watch X-Factor. But I have had the displeasure of being at pizza and movie night at friends houses and it has been on whilst we waited for the pizza.[/SUB]
 
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Somewhere in my head, there is a dissertation on how social computer games show how groups of strangers self organise into quasi-military groups in the face of competition. It's human nature. When there are win conditions, people will natural migrate towards doing anything and everything to maximise there advantages to win. That always leads to hierarchical structures with people who are skilled, knowledgeable and have almighty egos and mouths to with them ending up at the top, giving orders (did I mention fleets and Eve?). And as I said, that absolutely puts people off.

This. So much this. When you write your dissertation, give me a shout if you need it proof-reading ;)


But here is the thing. This is an event Drew wants everyone to feel they can take part in. There is nothing to force you to do anything other than what you want to do. I would join the discord, if only to take advantage of the fitting advice and so people can see you are on there side. Beyond that you are (regardless of what people seem to think with player created factions) an independent pilot.

With Erimus' explanation of the pro-Salome force disposition ( ;) ), I think this is an excellent suggestion. You may never see Salome or any of the main players, but you can always chat to the other players who are as lost as you are!

Turn up. Fly around. Shoot stuff. Have no clue whatsoever, just like everyone else, what it going on. Enjoy it. Probably blow us once or twice. Not care because its pixels. Do something different to that res site. and most importantly...

Have fun.

Amen :D
 
I just wonder, if I show up at one of the choke points as an independent pilot, does COR ask me if I am here to kill Salomé and if I say no, do they belief me?
 
I certainly hope some of them make it, but I'd also like to watch the live stream of one of them being rammed to death by an orca. Just imagine Obsidian Ant doing a 3303 recap on the devastating Orca mauling in 46 Eridani. That would be soooo very funny, just saying.

The attackers really have a hard choice to make. Even with a blockade they'd never get bodies in every system for all the possible jump range combinations for all the ships. A one or two light year difference in assumed jump range would be a pretty big miscalculation after so many jumps. They're going to have to be at the beginning covering near every system within 40ly's of 46 E or at the end, watching live streams for destinations and waiting.

If they were real smart they'd do both. Dock on the edge of the bubble as a re spawn point, kill whoever you can at the beginning then suicide your way back to the bubble dock to wait. That's what I'd do at least. Defenders should probably consider doing the same.
 
I just wonder, if I show up at one of the choke points as an independent pilot, does COR ask me if I am here to kill Salomé and if I say no, do they belief me?

Given there are literally hundreds of people on that discord, and probably hundreds more who don't come here and have no idea, or care for, that discord who are going to take part because they can, two things spring to mind: 1. The number of CoR people will by tiny compared to the number of people, so it will more likely be some random asking that (I think that is the point Erimus was trying to make, this is not just all about CoR, but they are helping with the discord thing etc). 2. Given this is very likely, if you are on a list of people who have already declared their intent to help Salome (even if half of them are probably lying), there is at least more chance of being taken at your word.
 
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I'll try and answer some of your questions about what the event is about.

Thanks for the long and detailed explanation about the event.

The problem, in my opinion, is information for those who didn't read this thread for the last few months. Your explanation is a perfect example: deeply hidden in a forums thread many probably don't read.

If I weren't already very interested in the Formidine Rift mystery (and everything that can remotely pass as story or lore) I would only know that something is happening on April 29.

It's understandable that those who invest a lot of their time organizing and/or preparing for that event think it's all known to the public.

I think a sticky thread about this event would have been a very good way to inform players. With some basic information who Salomé is, what the Fromidine Rift mystery is and how the event is planed to be. A short version of your (very good answer I'm replying to) with a bit additional background information.
Maybe with some ideas what players could do.

A short paragraph in the latest newsletter explaining what is planed would have helped - more than the really basic "something will happen" that was in the newsletter #171

I know, that sounds a lot like handholding, but I think that such an event needs to be sold to those who don't know about it. I think some sort of kickstarting the interest of a broader player audience would have been a good thing.
Getting players interested who weren't already interested. Giving them clear information about what to expect or what is planed. In a way that gets them interested in taking part.

That said, thanks again for the answers. I hope my reply doesn't come across as aggressive, patronizing or otherwise hostile or opposing. I'm just trying to help by offering a different point of view (and probably aren't very good at it or even helpful).

I really hope that the event will be a success.

And, don't tell anybody, I hope Salomé survives. Without her we would need a new character to "love to hate". D. Wagar created a really good (not moral, but good as in works good in the story) character.
 

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Going to that discord also reminded me why I hate discord so much and love team speak. TS is just chat. Not reams of typed crap, gifs, videos and other claptrap with 1000000 channels to get lost in. But it also showed my something else that might put people off: Somewhere in my head, there is a dissertation on how social computer games show how groups of strangers self organise into quasi-military groups in the face of competition. It's human nature. When there are win conditions, people will natural migrate towards doing anything and everything to maximise their advantages to win. That always leads to hierarchical structures with people who are skilled, knowledgeable and have almighty egos and mouths to go with them ending up at the top, giving orders (did I mention fleets and Eve?). And as I said, that absolutely puts people off.

This pretty much sums up how I'm feeling about the event since I joined that Discord. I'll probably take my Eagle for a ride while eating Arouca conventual sweets and sipping on Lavian brandy.

You may never see Salome or any of the main players, but you can always chat to the other players who are as lost as you are!

Problem is, I don't like people either :D
But hopefully our Thargoid overlords will take care of that... soon.
 
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@DrewCarnegie - by the way, Steve Davis is a DJ now... you've been outta the UK too long :)

@Erimus @Saool - thanks for the replies and I'm glad I'm not alone in just wanting to give it a good go for the sake of trying something different.
 
I'll try and answer some of your questions about what the event is about.

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If you want to get involved there are discord servers set up on both sides where you can find more information.

PC Allied Server : https://discord.gg/7fnxgex

XBOX Allied Server : https://discord.gg/VhcwSTa

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Many thanks, Erimus, for the very detailed explanation. And many thanks, also, to those of you who have worked so hard to make possible this singular event in the Elite Dangerous (ED) universe. [yesnod]

I, for sure, will participate in the event. I will be there not so much for the objective as for the journey (no special expectations about chating with Salomé or having some drinks with Raan Corsen). But let me add a third group of participants: the neutral ones, those who will not try to kill Salomé and her partners, but also will not have a special interest in protect them. Perhaps they are not crucial to the result of the event, but like in the real world, they will have a role to play.

[/RP On] As a reporter for an independent newspaper, who can barely afford the fuel and repairs of his old fleet of ships, I'll be close to the focus of the event, looking for good news and a better photograph. I do not have too many expectations about respect for the press and neutral players, I have been in too many armed conflicts and I am perfectly aware of what it means to be in the centre of a hot and furious space battle. But like all of you, I have a mission to fulfill: to see, to listen ...and to tell it. See you there, in the dark of space, next 29th. [/RP Off]

And YES, I'm more than willing to read next Drew's book: the one that will include the 29th event (sorry about that: too many years reading good Science Fiction :D), ...the event that all of us, players of ED, are invited to participate.
 
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So, i have build something like what is requested on that allied discord. First have to say, the treatment you get there strongly corresponds to the time you are on. Let's leave it at that...

Had a thought, now let's assume the unlikely thing here. That one of the VIPs gets to their target and does... whatever they are going to do. What then? A text or audio-message to reveal something and then? Now you all can move on? Think about it. If you were FD, and that event is succesful, end it on a local message? If i would be FD, at that moment, when the event is decided, i would throw in 1 or 2 Battlecruisers to make a mess of all of it.

But... in that case most people would be flying ships only able to interdict and nothing more. I for myself will be parking a nice Python about 30Ly out of Tionisla, should that happen. Drew mentioned that sys in an interview few months back and nothing has happened there since. So my bets are on that area.
 
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