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#support3rdparty - Why we temporarily shut down our sites.
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I support these actions.
1) While we love the 3rd party apps, they were never asked for by FDev and therefore you can't demand someone pay attention to you. I don't go to a company and demand a paycheck if I don't work for them.
2) INARA was outdated for months, as was Coriolis. I get that the "lack of support" helped cause this, but really? Months? If you want respect, get updates to your product faster.
3) They know that the event this weekend is huge. This is nothing more than a power play for attention and people are giving it to them. Stop your temper tantrum and realize that you're just fans of the game like everyone else. If you shut down, someone else will step in for you. You're replaceable. The game isn't.
2) INARA was outdated for months, as was Coriolis. I get that the "lack of support" helped cause this, but really? Months? If you want respect, get updates to your product faster.
3) They know that the event this weekend is huge. This is nothing more than a power play for attention and people are giving it to them. Stop your temper tantrum and realize that you're just fans of the game like everyone else. If you shut down, someone else will step in for you. You're replaceable. The game isn't.
Totally incorrect.
I value the tools very much. I'm still very much against this action.
Its not so black and white.
The question that needs to be answered is does FD want to support 3rd Party Tools or Not?
If Not then make it clear that is their stance. Being silent about the issue does not help anyone.
If Not then make it clear that is their stance. Being silent about the issue does not help anyone.
I probably use inara.cz, eddb.io, coriolis EDCD and ED-Board as much as I play Elite. They are incredible resources to this game, and make playing it MUCH MUCH more enjoyable than it would be without them. In fact, I don't think i would still play if they didn't exist. There is just a huge amount of vital information which is not readily available directly in the game.
If I need to find a module, material or resource, eddb.io saves me countless hours of hopeless searching. If I want to see what modules I can fit within my ships power limitations before actually purchasing them, and without having to do a bunch of number crunching on my own, coriolis is there. A quick references for which engineer offers which type and level of upgrades? ED-Board.
And how do I recognize which players are from a different faction? How do I even know who is my enemy and who isn't? Inara.cz (among countless other features).
These are all things that the 3rd party developers bring to the game. All very important things that could be directly in the game, but for some reason, are not. It enriches the community and ED experience to have access to these features.
However, I'm not a fan of holding the community hostage on an event weekend. It would have been a better idea to just reach out to the community for support if things are getting desperate, if FDev isn't paying attention. The community at large would jump in without everything being shut down.
If I need to find a module, material or resource, eddb.io saves me countless hours of hopeless searching. If I want to see what modules I can fit within my ships power limitations before actually purchasing them, and without having to do a bunch of number crunching on my own, coriolis is there. A quick references for which engineer offers which type and level of upgrades? ED-Board.
And how do I recognize which players are from a different faction? How do I even know who is my enemy and who isn't? Inara.cz (among countless other features).
These are all things that the 3rd party developers bring to the game. All very important things that could be directly in the game, but for some reason, are not. It enriches the community and ED experience to have access to these features.
However, I'm not a fan of holding the community hostage on an event weekend. It would have been a better idea to just reach out to the community for support if things are getting desperate, if FDev isn't paying attention. The community at large would jump in without everything being shut down.
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I also support this, I do spend a wak of cash with FD its really is about time they open up a little and support other that support them and the community (its common sense, which I know recently has been lacking), others including me find these sites very useful and makes the game just that little bit less tedious and more importantly more enjoyable.
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Incorrect analysis. It stopped the perceived complacency and being taking for granted dead in its tracks.
Regards.
True, excuse my flippant remark.
Some people in here are just really grinding my gears this morning.
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So you are saying your sites don't generate any revenue at all from advertising or click throughs?
Without 3rd party tools I would have stopped playing ED a long time ago. Yes, ED has so much information, but so little in ways to grasp or visualise it. And that's why these tools are essential, as they're ironing out ED's shortcomings in this area. Everyone I've introduced to these tools was amazed and got so much more out of ED.
So *please* FD, show these guys some love, i.e. some dedicated interaction and some lead time for changes. That's all they're asking for - and that's not a lot, is it?
So *please* FD, show these guys some love, i.e. some dedicated interaction and some lead time for changes. That's all they're asking for - and that's not a lot, is it?
Power concedes only to a demand, that is the point.
Also, trade unions typically don't engage in direct action, it's one of the reasons the union movement has become so unfortunately weak. Our 3rd party devs are taking the power they've already had, and it's about time.
Give third-party support
I know quite a lot of people who will stop playing if the sites ever went down.. They weren't joking, friends list is empty
I'll still play for a while I guess, but it will get frustrating not finding what I'm looking for.. It's 3303, I'm sure theyd have a database showing where modules/commodities are in habited space.. come on fdev.
I know quite a lot of people who will stop playing if the sites ever went down.. They weren't joking, friends list is empty
I'll still play for a while I guess, but it will get frustrating not finding what I'm looking for.. It's 3303, I'm sure theyd have a database showing where modules/commodities are in habited space.. come on fdev.
They literally did let people know years ago. They said they'd couldn't support API stuff because it is going to change to much and too often to keep up with it.
Ed Lewis has already responded in this thread. FD are aware, and you can be sure they are having internal discussions about it and a statement will eventually be issued once they have decided on what that statement will be.
Unless you need a post per page from Ed saying "Still discussing".
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