THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

Just read a post by Yuri on discord that PAC have listed all COR pilots as Kill on Sight.

I think that shows PAC's true position. They were always a fifth column and that is why they aided SDC.
Mind giving me a link? I'm new to this Discord stuff and would like to see it.
 
You can only read it if you are part of the COR group, its in special directives.

ETA its also in the Xbox Premonition discord. under High Priority. I don't know how to link between here and discord, sorry.
 
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"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer."

CoR (and PAC) are getting a lot of criticism for letting Harry and his friends join the allied forces to protect Salomé. This is unreasonable. While any fool could have seen Harry's treachery coming a mile a way ... not having welcomed him into the allied forces would have had the same result. Harry was going to show up gunning for Salomé no matter what.

At least by having Harry in their own Friends list it helped level the playing field. Tracking Salomé was incredibly easy. So many of us still had her in our friends lists. And even if she wasn't ... her every move was being live-streamed via several channels. The only way to track Harry would have been to welcome him in with a smile.

The Earth Defense Fleet took part as best as we could in the event. As far as I'm aware though we never got into the same instance with any of the VIPs. A few of us got interdicted by some of Raan's henchmen ... but as far as I'm aware nobody got shot at. From my point-of-view it was an incredibly PvP-free PvP event. I got interdicted at the very end by someone in a Vulture ... though I suspect they were just bored. In any case, we both fled in opposite directions from the interdiction.

Salomé is dead.

Drew was prepared for this eventuality so, in the end, the story goes on. Time to stop pointing fingers and laying blame. One of the lessons we should have learned as children is that, when we play a game, we don't always win. How we take defeat is a better show of our character then how we celebrate our victories.

To you all: Keep flying.

There was enough forces to take out SDC as KoS

To have them involved was a bad mistake, PAC were trying to appease SDC as they are an important part of the game but for this event it was a bit dumb
 
The facts are getting clearer, don't worry, Zenith clarified a lot earlier in this thread.

One bit I'm not clear on... there's a rumour going about that HP convinced your wing to slow down to let him catch up. Is that part true?

Almost certainly not. I was flying in one of the escorts wings. We weren't even waiting for our own people if they got slowed down or had trouble as we had planned for that contingency by building in some redundancy. I heard nothing on comms indicating a request for Salomé to slow down leading up to the attack or to slow down at any time for that matter. It would make for a dramatic story were it true, but that detail seems to be incorrect. It was still dramatic, exciting and a heck of a good time despite the sad outcome though.

Zenith can likely clarify in more detail when he's back online as he was one of the pilots directly in wing with Salomé. I was positioned at a slightly forward way point when it all went down.
 
There was enough forces to take out SDC as KoS

To have them involved was a bad mistake, PAC were trying to appease SDC as they are an important part of the game but for this event it was a bit dumb

I don't know ... from what I saw on the PAC Discord server before heading into work tonight ... I'm not sure where PAC ends and SDC begins.
 
It would have been easy for Sap Core to kill Yuri, We had our stealth wing tracking him all the way as he asked our stealth wing to be ready if needed.

Fact is at Sap Core we are not like SDC and we stand by our convictions and intentions as we have political issues involved.

We Role play our position.

SDC answer to nobody and that is the mistake in allowing them a non KoS situation.

JT442
Cmndr Steven
and Doomsday Smile did a great job on Xbox
 
Any ideas from the name of the Listening Posts signals?
RAGAZZA . (girl in Italian?) I also noticed the moons at which they were located 1C 3C 3E 4A 4B 5D 5E.
CCEABDE .

Combine all the letters and remove the ones that spell REBECCA, leaves DAGAZZA. I tried checking out the Dagaz system, especially Dagaz A2 and its landable moon. Didn't see anything unusual at first glance though.
Other ideas?
 
I don't know ... from what I saw on the PAC Discord server before heading into work tonight ... I'm not sure where PAC ends and SDC begins.

This is the thing, at Sap Core we utilise Independents all the time but we don't trust them with anything important.

We may be the dodgy lot from Alliance but we still have that political situation where we need to be responsible.

SDC dont have that, they have demonstrated this a lot.

Anyway its a win for Xbox lot.

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Any ideas from the name of the Listening Posts signals?
RAGAZZA . (girl in Italian?) I also noticed the moons at which they were located 1C 3C 3E 4A 4B 5D 5E.
CCEABDE .

Combine all the letters and remove the ones that spell REBECCA, leaves DAGAZZA. I tried checking out the Dagaz system, especially Dagaz A2 and its landable moon. Didn't see anything unusual at first glance though.
Other ideas?

Rebecca !
 
Any ideas from the name of the Listening Posts signals?
RAGAZZA . (girl in Italian?) I also noticed the moons at which they were located 1C 3C 3E 4A 4B 5D 5E.
CCEABDE .

Combine all the letters and remove the ones that spell REBECCA, leaves DAGAZZA. I tried checking out the Dagaz system, especially Dagaz A2 and its landable moon. Didn't see anything unusual at first glance though.
Other ideas?

You're making the mistake of caring about whatever important message was delivered. Dude! get it right! you're supposed to whine about some three-letter-acronym player groups that I have only vague ideas who they even are because an NPC got killed by a teenage wizard!
 
Any ideas from the name of the Listening Posts signals?
RAGAZZA . (girl in Italian?) I also noticed the moons at which they were located 1C 3C 3E 4A 4B 5D 5E.
CCEABDE .

Combine all the letters and remove the ones that spell REBECCA, leaves DAGAZZA. I tried checking out the Dagaz system, especially Dagaz A2 and its landable moon. Didn't see anything unusual at first glance though.
Other ideas?

In Drew's earlier Oolite fan-fiction novels "RAGAZZA" is the name that the Thargoids used to describe Rebecca. I don't think there is any hidden message intended by it aside from a salute to fans of Drew's early forays into writing.
 
In Drew's earlier Oolite fan-fiction novels "RAGAZZA" is the name that the Thargoids used to describe Rebecca. I don't think there is any hidden message intended by it aside from a salute to fans of Drew's early forays into writing.

Yes and a slightly Trolling message !!!, Cheers Drew xx

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I'm Applauding SDC right now

A- for tricksterness
B- for getting the kill
 
In Drew's earlier Oolite fan-fiction novels "RAGAZZA" is the name that the Thargoids used to describe Rebecca. I don't think there is any hidden message intended by it aside from a salute to fans of Drew's early forays into writing.

WAIT! The Thargoids know Latin. Drew knows Latin. [alien]
 
Eh, if Salome's death was planned that way (a popular theory, but as of yet still only speculation) then more power to Drew. Some people are claiming it was scripted, but if she had lived they'd be claiming she was unkillable and it was scripted as well. Regardless of the outcome, people would cry conspiracy and see what they want to see.

The problem is, the way this was handled made me want to play Elite LESS. Much less.

The griefer issue and the legacy of SDC and Harry Potter has always been a sore point for a lot people. I don't mind PvP, I personally think it adds spice to the galaxy. I like piracy (though I never do it) and have been priated a few times (once blown up, once disabled, once submitted and gave up loot, twice run away, other interdiction escapes), but encouraging the kind of shenanigans we've seen here to me is just not cool. It doesn't foster community at all (well, other than united hate on one side and united snorts and garfuffles on another).

It's not about Salome dying. Dying was a fine option - but the idea of SDC convincing everyone to fly unarmed and then laughing in our faces after the fact for doing it is poor taste.

From a story point of view, I'm sure Drew will write a fine ending, but watching from the sidelines it hurts. SDC are patting themselves on the back and being the heroes of their story, but I ask you, from a narrative point of view, what is this encouraging?

As I said, it doesn't foster a sense of community, but it DOES foster a sense of ery. To me it sends the message that a-holes are rewarded, get the spotlight, get the girls, and you better get with the program or get left behind. The fact the message got out is irrelevant. The fact 3 out of 4 survived is irrelevant. The fact people are upset is all that matters - and you could kill them a thousand times in return and they won't care.

I don't want the ED community to be full of a-holes, but isn't that the message being sent?

I've been sick all day and wouldn't have been able to take part regardless. I spent my time searching for listening outposts (hoping to find a generation ship) while hearing and reading events unfold. And when it was over I just wanted to turn off my computer and not turn it back on again.

If that's the future of ED, I want no part of it.



Personally I think the REAL surprise was the fact that someone here actually found the big reveal half an hour before the event started. I was here for that as it unfolded (and subsequent attempt to quiet down) and couldn't help but have a smile on my face.

Explorers got there first.

At least there's that. That gives me hope
 
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WAIT! The Thargoids know Latin. Drew knows Latin. [alien]
and Greek

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Eh, if Salome's death was planned that way (a popular theory, but as of yet still only speculation) then more power to Drew. Some people are claiming it was scripted, but if she had lived they'd be claiming she was unkillable and it was scripted as well. Regardless of the outcome, people would cry conspiracy and see what they want to see.

The problem is, the way this was handled made me want to play Elite LESS. Much less.

The griefer issue and the legacy of SDC and Harry Potter has always been a sore point for a lot people. I don't mind PvP, I personally think it adds spice to the galaxy. I like piracy (though I never do it) and have been priated a few times (once blown up, once disabled, once submitted and gave up loot, twice run away, other interdiction escapes), but encouraging the kind of shenanigans we've seen here to me is just not cool. It doesn't foster community at all (well, other than united hate on one side and united snorts and garfuffles on another).

It's not about Salome dying. Dying was a fine option - but the idea of SDC convincing everyone to fly unarmed and then laughing in our faces after the fact for doing it is poor taste.

From a story point of view, I'm sure Drew will write a fine ending, but watching from the sidelines it hurts. SDC are patting themselves on the back and being the heroes of their story, but I ask you, from a narrative point of view, what is this encouraging?

As I said, it doesn't foster a sense of community, but it DOES foster a sense of ery. To me it sends the message that a-holes are rewarded, get the spotlight, get the girls, and you better get with the program or get left behind. The fact the message got out is irrelevant. The fact 3 out of 4 survived is irrelevant. The fact people are upset is all that matters - and you could kill them a thousand times in return and they won't care.

I don't want the ED community to be full of a-holes, but isn't that the message being sent?

I've been sick all day and wouldn't have been able to take part regardless. I spent my time searching for listening outposts (hoping to find a generation ship) while hearing and reading events unfold. And when it was over I just wanted to turn off my computer and not turn it back on again.

If that's the future of ED, I want no part of it.



Personally I think the REAL surprise was the fact that someone here actually found the big reveal half an hour before the event started. I was here for that as it unfolded (and subsequent attempt to quiet down) and couldn't help but have a smile on my face.

Explorers got there first.

At least there's that. That gives me hope

We should start the SDC mystery thread, a place for ex Rifters to seriously tinfoil over !!!

I agree though and its annoying that SDC get to be a part of this story.

While they do an interesting role in game they should have not been allowed to be a part of this.

I had enough of Harry bloody Potter while exploring and seeing his tags all over the place, Im sooooo not jealous though
 
HP merely followed Salomé on the galmap and once he caught up, it was over. Instancing was in his favour, defenders kept getting thrown out our were stuck in the drop-out tunnel ...

LOL, I don't believe this for a second.

Harry Potter, perhaps the highest-profile Elite Dangerous player in the game (with *maybe* Obsidian Ant a contender for the title) just *conveniently* happens to enjoy "instancing in his favor" when literally thousands - *thousands* - of other players were trying to get in the same instance? Salome didn't even try to escape from Harry Potter, she fought the interdiction which was *guaranteed* to be suicide if she lost.

Totally. And. Completely. Scripted.

This was a staged event for Discord/Twitch. It was a marketing campaign, not a "player driven" MMO event.
 
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