Gtx 1080 ti Elite Dangerous
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I disagree, the additional power of Ti is very noticable in VR over a stock 1080.
In all honesty, achieving good 4k gaming is considerably easier than VR.
Especially with a bit of upsampling and trying to avoid the crutch of ASW. Or other reprojection methods.
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I swapped my GTX 980 for a 1080 TI recently (mainly for IL2 BOS which recently added excellent VR support that unfortunately overtaxed my 980 at the settings I wanted to play at) and this pretty much matches my experience with ED.
Briefly played around with SS but ultimately settled for higher shadow, texture, reflection etc... quality without SS or increased HMD quality. Even with SS 1.5, I found ASW kicking in way too often in stations, ice belts and on planets.
Of course it's a matter of personal preference - I started playing ED using the DK2 and the only way I know the game outside VR is from videos. Never had a problem reading the text in the DK2's lower resolution as I got used to lean in if necessary, so I don't deem text legibility a problem in the Vive in comparison to dropped frames.
Hi How do you notice ASW kicking in? I am running Ultra settings with HMD at 2.0 and SS at 1. I never notice any strange behaviour when ASW is working. Game is running at 90 fps all the time with ASW.
I don't really want to tell you, cause there is no going back, if you don't notice it, then I'm envious
But there is also a huge difference in artefacting when you have sufficient headroom to keep 45 fps, with my 980ti some res sites etc doesn't have that headroom, particularly ice belts.
No, game is not running 90, the Rift is.
But half of the frames being served the rift with those settings would be artificial.
A clear indication would be wavy ripples in the hud, especially where it intersects over an outside view.
Hit ctrl-f and glance at the FPS counter, unless that's in the green and showing 90, ASW is active, and with settings like that I would expect it won't unless in supercruise.
It's hard to demonstrate cause these artefacts are only visible inside the rift only way to capture them is to shove a camera right in there...
To me it's really obvious, but as mentioned I sometimes even struggle at getting 45 in situations, and then the insides of the rift is like driving a car fast, while in torrential downpour with no wipers.
But half of the frames being served the rift with those settings would be artificial.
A clear indication would be wavy ripples in the hud, especially where it intersects over an outside view.
Hit ctrl-f and glance at the FPS counter, unless that's in the green and showing 90, ASW is active, and with settings like that I would expect it won't unless in supercruise.
It's hard to demonstrate cause these artefacts are only visible inside the rift only way to capture them is to shove a camera right in there...
To me it's really obvious, but as mentioned I sometimes even struggle at getting 45 in situations, and then the insides of the rift is like driving a car fast, while in torrential downpour with no wipers.
I expect to get my card today so I'l do some testing. But honestly Ultra settings at 2x sounds far too good to be true.
I really do wish it's not though...
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I hit the button, MSI Gaming X
Should have waited a bit more for Zotac 1080 Ti Amp Extreme.
that card is about 80 to 90€ more. Not worth it to me, as all cards are limited by temperature when it comes to keeping up a high boost frequenzy. Cooling may be a bit better of course but will not result in lots of more FPS.
Thats not what you have stated in your other posts in this thread:
I'll be blunt - there is no chance on this earth that anyone is running the game at 2 x HMD Quality (or 2 x SS) with everything set to ultra or even high and able to maintain a solid 90FPS at all times or not have ASW kick in. People with higher spec'd rigs than yours will see ASW kick in from time to time at 1.5 x HMD (or 1.5 x SS) and high settings.
As I have said previously, it's good to hear that you are happy with your performance but those settings will have a heavy reliance ASW and you will not be mainting 90FPS at all times (if many times at all in honesty), even if you do not notice that yourself during gameplay. ASW is most noticable on the HUD, but you'll also see it distorting the SRV body panels if you look out of the side widows while moving at speed, the wheel arms distort a lot as well. You'll also see distortion similar to what you see on the HUD affecting any thin window struts in the cockpits of ships such as the Vulture.
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Agree, but it's the strongest out there.
Nevertheless, MSI Gaming X is on par with every other aftermarket Ti.
Let us know how you like it when it comes
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Agree, but it's the strongest out there.
Nevertheless, MSI Gaming X is on par with every other aftermarket Ti.
Let us know how you like it when it comes
Sure thing.
Btw, i don't trust many review pages or youtube channels. They mostly chew on the same information. But check out Gamers Nexus, they do dig deep on their reviews. I am not related to them in any way.
Well, Got it, installed it.
Seems to be working. Hasn't blown up yet wich is always nice.
But I'm logging into ED, and almost straight of the bat I'm seeing ASW kick in inside the station, now they seem less obvious, so for a minute I almost thought it was native 90.
Here's the old 980ti settings:
Since just to test, I pushed the VR ultra setting, adjusted down SS and upped HMD Q to a mere 1.25
And didn't really notice any increase in ASW artefacting.
I pulled my corvette into the haz ice-res just, off jefferies in ugrivirii (worst case performance scenario imo)
And sure I can see the occasional ripple here and there from ASW, but it's much better than before, and I can't really say I see any more artefacting with my current settings that is mostly VR ultra, with reduced SS and AA.
Anyhoo, time to start tweaking settings I guess.
I also have new RAM and a new PSU coming in.
As for temps, the card seems to idle at around 30c.
The highest I have seen it go was 71c. when I tested doom to see how fast the counter could go.
It varied between 180-150 fps, average around 170 or so at 3440x1440.
It rises quite slowly too, doing blender rendering tests the render would need to take more than two minutes for the fans to kick in.
Boost clock seem to settle at around 1911Mhz.
Hi, yeah the only thing I notice is some disturbance in the hud lines which is really totally negligible and no issue what so ever. I asked because I wonder what is so disturbing with ASW on.
On my rig, its doing a fantastic job. I have all on ultra settings excep AO. I have switched between ASW on and off in the game while paying Close attention to the Graphics and 3d effect. And there is absolutely no difference except of course with ASW off I can not maintain 90 fps on planets.
I clocked my 1080TI to 2000mhz core and +400 on the memory with default fan curve in afterburner and it never goes above 70 degrees in Elite and heaven BM.
ASW is really a fantastic feature which of course enables people with lower spec to run the game with higher settings and people with 1080TI's and a good cpu can use ultra settings with HMD 2 and 90 fps ASW on
I kind of suspect ASW would kick in, in my instances where it does now.
Going from my old settings of medium to high and vr ultra was really just noticeable in the image quality and not much on performance so might have a bit to go on.
Now if FDL could just implement dx12 and SMP...
Going from my old settings of medium to high and vr ultra was really just noticeable in the image quality and not much on performance so might have a bit to go on.
Now if FDL could just implement dx12 and SMP...
Since asynchronous reprojection in the vive works slightly different than ASW, we may observe different effects. In the Vive, I didn't notice much tearing when it kicked in.
However my heads movement felt not quite natural, especially when doing quick unpredictable movements. An example would be to take a quick sip of wine when docking - the initial moment when throwing the head back felt slightly off. It's very subtle and was still absolutely playable and I think I unconsciously just circumvent the problem by closing my eyes when drinking.
Of course it's a great feature I've really appreciated when it was introduced and using the GTX 980, but if forced to decide between higher SS or not having asynchronous reprojection kick in, I'd always choose the latter. Needless to say that it's an absolutely subjective preference and may depend on many individual factors e.g. on how much one moves around.
Here's what it seems that I have learned after a second session of testing tonight.
ASW is really trigger happy, and turns on in all the usual places, but even my new settings are leaving the GPU utilization at around 45%, and sometimes, only sometimes it dips over 50%.
So for the second half of my session I kept my settings mostly, even ambient occlusion to medium and disabled ASW using the tray tool, occasionally and pretty much only in stations do I notice the old ghosty double image.
This is only with SS 1 and HMD Q at 1.25 mind, a setting I'm perfectly happy with.
But it leaves me with what I suppose is a second option, and the way I'm leaning right now.
Leave ASW on, and crank the mother out of some settings.
But it is a big improvement from a 980ti that was basically swamped at 99% at medium settings during big fight scenes.
So if you have no ill reactions to ASW, it should leave the game very playable at the settings that for example Kiario is using.
And also, Ram usage only seem to approach 5.5GB. and here I have all this beautiful RAM..
ASW is really trigger happy, and turns on in all the usual places, but even my new settings are leaving the GPU utilization at around 45%, and sometimes, only sometimes it dips over 50%.
So for the second half of my session I kept my settings mostly, even ambient occlusion to medium and disabled ASW using the tray tool, occasionally and pretty much only in stations do I notice the old ghosty double image.
This is only with SS 1 and HMD Q at 1.25 mind, a setting I'm perfectly happy with.
But it leaves me with what I suppose is a second option, and the way I'm leaning right now.
Leave ASW on, and crank the mother out of some settings.
But it is a big improvement from a 980ti that was basically swamped at 99% at medium settings during big fight scenes.
So if you have no ill reactions to ASW, it should leave the game very playable at the settings that for example Kiario is using.
And also, Ram usage only seem to approach 5.5GB. and here I have all this beautiful RAM..
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Helo Cyclon,
I had a 1080 Gigabyte G1 OC at the same time that a MSI 1080Ti Gaming X. And could compare two at the same time in the same computer. The best quality that you could obtain in a CV1 with a graphic card is that:
1080 Debugtool with SSx2.5, SS ingame 0.65 with ASW on (in planets) 45fps with graphic quality optimal (over that only lost fps, the quality is exactly the same)
1080TI Debugtool with SSx2.75, SS ingame 0.85 with ASW on (in planets) 45fps with graphic quality optimal (over that only lost fps, the quality is exactly the same)
The quality is maximun and the same for CV1 with 1080 and 1080ti, you can not go over that.
For me optimal quality, you could read inside the stations in a sidewinder, when you turn your head on right hand, the book "Flight and trading manual"
Or in planet you can read the serial number in containers or the "keep Clear" under the planet station guns
I had a 1080 Gigabyte G1 OC at the same time that a MSI 1080Ti Gaming X. And could compare two at the same time in the same computer. The best quality that you could obtain in a CV1 with a graphic card is that:
1080 Debugtool with SSx2.5, SS ingame 0.65 with ASW on (in planets) 45fps with graphic quality optimal (over that only lost fps, the quality is exactly the same)
1080TI Debugtool with SSx2.75, SS ingame 0.85 with ASW on (in planets) 45fps with graphic quality optimal (over that only lost fps, the quality is exactly the same)
The quality is maximun and the same for CV1 with 1080 and 1080ti, you can not go over that.
For me optimal quality, you could read inside the stations in a sidewinder, when you turn your head on right hand, the book "Flight and trading manual"
Or in planet you can read the serial number in containers or the "keep Clear" under the planet station guns
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