THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

Being the center of unwanted and vitriolic attention is tough, circling the wagons is a natural tendency. I completely agree with the sentiment that there's no formal animosity between the two groups, in fact there's substantial membership overlap.

A bit of good natured ribbing is all fine (and probably called for) but in the end it's real people with real sentiments, it's entirely possible to take things too far.

Oh I agree absolutely, the leg pulling (for DrewC flipper fondling) is just part of the fun. And I don't think the Rifters have ever done any more than mild leg pulling with CoR (& no more than amongst ourselves). But we (in particular Zach) shouldn't be blamed for 65 pages of vitriol after 29th Event against CoR and DrewW that were nothing to do with us, it was all posters most of whom I can't remember ever appearing on this thread before. I did suggest at the time those 65 pages should be deleted or moved to a separate Event thread.

No, what irks with me is this apparent move to exclude membership of any other group/thread; I have also picked up a couple of anti-Canonn sentiments recently. Now what anyone could have against FRifters and Canonn I can't understand, we are two groups of players that like to have fun and explore the ED mysteries in a light hearted way that is open to all; sharing our hypotheses, ideas, clues, and results.
 
Tactically CoR killed Salomé... Technically instancing did. The first statement is why they are taking so much flack just now. They however made that bed and now need to lie in it. Zach getting punished is *starts to sneeze* ah-ahh-HHahhh-horrr-shi!!! *Oh bless me*

I read a post by someone in CoR pointing out that they just started things off and then PAC took over completely. I don't know the ins & outs, I didn't participate, enough coals have been raked for those embers to cool down now. But I do sympathise with CoR who got a huge amount of unwarranted and personal vitriol, unfortunately a lot of it was posted here by outsiders despite our wishes.
 
Pretty sure Harry Potter's guns had a part to play.

Shmibbays they did, but only a bit part IMHO...

His sudden and inevitable betrayal had been foreseen for weeks, I suspect thats why CoR misguided PAC to keep PAC an therefore Potter off the trail of Salomé's planned route. However as Drew / Salomé ran out of jumponium (I'd already caught up with jumponium'd Salomé) despite being in system with "Her" numerous times, in a wing of 4 friendlies, I was never in the same instance as Salomé.

Potter got lucky and got put in the same instance as Salomé.

Had potter been in the instance I had found myself in and I been in Potters place in Salomé's instance, things would have ended differently and instancing would have saved Salomé.

Had networking glitches not kicked one of Salomés wingmen to main menu, dropped another 40LS from "her" wing beacon and blue tunnelled either that same one or another of the wing for two minutes, those guys might have been able to buy Salomé enough time to flee....

So my point stands, network code and instancing did just as much as if not more than HP did to kill her.
 
Shmibbays they did, but only a bit part IMHO...

His sudden and inevitable betrayal had been foreseen for weeks, I suspect thats why CoR misguided PAC to keep PAC an therefore Potter off the trail of Salomé's planned route. However as Drew / Salomé ran out of jumponium (I'd already caught up with jumponium'd Salomé) despite being in system with "Her" numerous times, in a wing of 4 friendlies, I was never in the same instance as Salomé.

Potter got lucky and got put in the same instance as Salomé.

Had potter been in the instance I had found myself in and I been in Potters place in Salomé's instance, things would have ended differently and instancing would have saved Salomé.

Had networking glitches not kicked one of Salomés wingmen to main menu, dropped another 40LS from "her" wing beacon and blue tunnelled either that same one or another of the wing for two minutes, those guys might have been able to buy Salomé enough time to flee....

So my point stands, network code and instancing did just as much as if not more than HP did to kill her.

That's like saying the Chinese killed Kennedy because they invented gunpowder.

Harry Potter followed Salome, interdicted Salome and destroyed her ship.
The rest is just background.
 

Potter got lucky and got put in the same instance as Salomé.


Not entirely sure if it was just luck. Some players understand how instancing works better than others. Creating a situation that favors "you" is increasing "your" chances of having luck.
Matchmaking is just an algorithm and knowing how it works allows "you" to let it work to "your" favor. Gaming the game…

Not that I really care that much about it. The event was good no matter how it ended and I'm sure Drew Wagar has good endings ready for all eventualities.
 
Now what anyone could have against FRifters and Canonn I can't understand, we are two groups of players that like to have fun and explore the ED mysteries in a light hearted way that is open to all; sharing our hypotheses, ideas, clues, and results.

That's an easy one. Most PGs don't share and want all the "glory" for themselves.
 
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I read a post by someone in CoR pointing out that they just started things off and then PAC took over completely. I don't know the ins & outs, I didn't participate, enough coals have been raked for those embers to cool down now. But I do sympathise with CoR who got a huge amount of unwarranted and personal vitriol, unfortunately a lot of it was posted here by outsiders despite our wishes.

I was there. CoR are not to blame. Indeed they did great. It was a nightmare of instancing issues and CTD's. But funny. I enjoyed it anyway.
 
So the run-down on the censorship is basically "We can trash talk Harry Potter, because he isn't going to cry and report posts for hurting his fee-fees, but if we talk about CoR then we better be praising them to high heavens."

Got it.

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Or rather, We can't "name-and-shame" anyone from CoR. But HP and other posts on previous pages where there's been direct "naming and shaming" is fine.

Could the Volunteer Mods at least provide a post that explains reasoning behind why posts were removed, and why some that were unrelated or not in violation of any forum rules were removed also? I'd feel that would be much more wise than to just censor the forum without explanation. Given your voluntary position, I can understand that you're not really "working" so you don't need to do a complete "job", but it's pretty much common decency to explain what's going on before it's been noted as blatant censorship. Shouldn't this of been explained to you Volunteer Mods when you asked for the role? In the chapter titled "How to conduct official business without causing confusion or disarray within the community"?

The few communities I have seen, or heard of, where silent censorship has been a tool of Moderators, Voluntary or not, those communities either did not last very long or did not retain a good reputation towards the staff for very long.

Further Edit because this issue annoys me to hell:

Basically, because of the silent censorship, you're immediately raising red flags and giving the impression that you're willing to white-knight for priveleged members of the forum whilst allowing slander of other members to continue. I've seen a lot of negativity towards Harry Potter. Do you allow this simply because you share a common view-point and allow that Bias to overrule your acting judgement?

Final point:

I haven't recieved any warnings for posts that I made that were deleted, so I believe I didn't do anything wrong. However, I won't use this "I did nothing wrong" excuse to just turn a blind eye to indecent Volunteer moderation. Please explain yourselves.
 
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