Code action against CoR

Although you have to wonder what it says about people who choose to enter any form of conflict with another group while hiding behind these mechanics to protect themselves from what would be ingame reactions and try to remain anonymous doing it.

What it does do though is justify so many PvPers claims that PG and Solo shouldn't exist as it does not create a level playing field in allowing only 1 form of defence or attack being Solo and PG PvE grinding only.

Personally as a PvE player who accepts that PvP is part of the game as are player factions, attacking people even economically from PG or Solo smacks of cowardice and has the same impact as an exploit.

I'm all for non PvP modes, but using them as a way of safely attacking a PvP group doesn't seem right to me. If you are too scared to meet them and fight them on home turf, then you shouldn't be able to hurt them.

And before the obvious comments start (and just to make sure I get moaned at by both sides) I would expect the same in reverse so if a PvP group wanted to attack a declared PvE group they would have to accept that the PvE grind is the way to do it and they can't insist the PvE group change their game to suit them.

But for an aggressor to hide behind game modes so that their attacks are secret and not take what would be the consequences of being the aggressor is just plain wrong.

easy fix, make your own game and set the rules you want.
 
I just went to HR 6421 and there is no blockade. There was actually someone from CoR flying around so, I don't think we need to take these threats very seriously.

Probably not lol.

Not to mention the code is supposed to be a piracy group and if they still are that means they have to fit cargo racks and potentially hatch breaker limpets which means a lack of scbs, hrps and mrps
 
Thanks. I've been waiting for the day when this would happen and probably would have missed it without the direction to Reddit, which I don't generally visit.

No comment about it since I guess the deletions mean it's an off-limits topic here.

I have a question about it: If it's an off-limits topic, why is it an off-limits topic?
I recognise potential security breaches are a serious issue, but removal of (so far) the only communication that makes players aware of a potential breach is... shall we say, notwhat I would have expected from FD. Not at all.
Still, I'm sure they're on top of it. Probably. Maybe. I expect they'll make a release once they've got their eggs in a row and have decided what exactly to tell us.
Until then I'll be watching.

And that's all I have to say on the matter. Zoop. Back to powerplay lite.
I generally just go to a system, do the missions there until my ranking stops increasing hugely, and then move onto the next system :).
 
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And that's all I have to say on the matter. Zoop. Back to powerplay lite.
I generally just go to a system, do the missions there until my ranking stops increasing hugely, and then move onto the next system :).

Will you please stop doing that! You are seriously messing with the BGS[big grin]

I had to laugh at the BGS lite comment, But I have always looked at powerplay as the ABC of BGS.
 
The code is a joke. Their moles got caught and now they can't spy like they used to and are salty for it. Oh and CoR doesn't really do BGS, not outside of their own systems. If you're going to fling defecated material, at least Git Gud at it first.
 
The playing field is perfectly level. Each mode has exactly the same effect on the BGS. If you want to beat your enemy's PvP activity, do it in open. If you want to beat your enemy's BGS activity, do BGS activity. Done.

Apply the right tool for the job. Being a hammer doesn't make it alright to approach everything as a nail.
 
Do any of these "our out-of-gameplay group is performing a mass in-game action" threads ever not result in a PR disaster for the ahem group in question? :D
 
The Code has blockaded HR 6421 due to the hostile actions of Children of Raxxla. They have attacked allies of The Code in open and it is believed that they have been affecting Background sims while in private/solo play. This system will remain under lock down until the Code demands are met. Any CMDR who is found in this system and not an ally of The Code will be KOS

This isn't roleplay, this meta-level something.

These play modes (open/private/solo) might not seem 'fair' to some but if ED's has any sort of simulation of real-life politics well that's just not very fair either. Movers and shakers in the background the public never hear about. In real life you'd try to work around it and with it, use the same tactics it uses against it. Wouldn't this apply in the game as well ?

This line -

" it is believed that they have been affecting Background sims while in private/solo play. "

This isn't levelling the playing field, this is completely changing it. Changing the rules when it's not going your way kind of defeats the challenge of attempting it in the first place don't you think ? The rules were there before you started playing. This KOS directive does come across a little as lashing out in frustration to me.

Anyway just my 2 cents. Carry on.
 
Interesting timing.
Here we have one post by a member of the Code announcing a blockade of a system, for a reason that nobody else seemed to be aware of. Another member confirmed it was authorised. Since then we have generated 15 pages of comments and attention, with people even going so far as heading to the blockaded system to check it out. What they found is no actual signs of anyone from the Code being in the area and business proceeding as usual.
In an earlier post, we have the ex-Spokeswolf from the same group indirectly alerting us to the possibility that they intend to infiltrate Private Groups, similar to what SDE did in the past.
What are the chances that this post about a blockade is actually meant to attract everyone's attention, while they quietly slip a few players into PG's?
If I were one of the PG admins, I would be scrutinising every new application to join very carefully.
 
Yep I read it, been deleted.

i read it too, if it is true, then imo account bans should be forthcomming imo. not that i care. people are welcome to my ip address. infact here you go 193.62.194.254 do with it what you will!... but getting it without others consent and sharing just aint cricket.
 
But for an aggressor to hide behind game modes so that their attacks are secret and not take what would be the consequences of being the aggressor is just plain wrong.

Which would be 100% on the money if the game was designed central to active PvP rather than just an optional extra to be done if you choose...... I think Roybe summed it up quite well - not sure if he is still around.

the PvP in ED which matters is essentially the competition of completing PvE goals...... whilst you CAN do it in a mode where active PvP is possible, you do so for fun alone and have to accept that it isnt the most efficient way of doing it and that is by design......... You may not like the design, and that is fine, but this does not mean the design is broken..... Not all games have to be about active PvP imo......... CODE know all this, they just dont like it, but again, it does not make it wrong.

There are loads of games which ARE PvP focussed. I dont moan about them, and ask them to be changed i just dont play them... and when I DO play them, i dont go out of my way to try to spoil others game in a "protest". Vote with your wallet imo.... as i voted with mine when i decided i liked it!.
 
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Why dose font mater? It dose not , don't dictate other peoples choices

Nobody is dictating anything, and as this is part of my profession, I can tell you that fonts matter a lot. Some are designed to be used in print, others on screen - some are better bigger, as titles, some are designed to be readable while small. OP's attempt to stand out led to him to select a font that is fairly unreadable in a forum post, making it hard to read. Presumably, the OP wants his message read, and if so he should make his posts easy to read. Some of us have lives outside the game, and won't waste too much time and effort trying to read something hard to read because someone is trying to stand out.
 
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i read it too, if it is true, then imo account bans should be forthcomming imo. not that i care. people are welcome to my ip address. infact here you go 193.62.194.254 do with it what you will!... but getting it without others consent and sharing just aint cricket.

Then maybe FDEV shouldn't log it in the clear? Or have the contacts tab that does the same thing? Oh and you can't do anything with an IP address to make it personally identifiable. Some people are just too stupid to be on the Internet.
 
Ah right. So it's basically powerplay-lite?

sort of yeah,.... it was the games powerplay before powerplay existed.
personally i like playing the BGS... but powerplay hasn’t grabbed me yet. (i guess the next stage of this chat would be the 5th columnists screwing up PP however that arguably comes down to poor design because who couldnt see that coming a mile off?

playing the BGS i tend to do just to improve the missions i am offered - tho that said i did enjoy getting allied with the Pilots federation and dabble helping any PvE focused home systems now and then.
 
Then maybe FDEV shouldn't log it in the clear? Or have the contacts tab that does the same thing? Oh and you can't do anything with an IP address to make it personally identifiable. .

why do you think i gave mine out on here ;) that said, even if i was wrong, I cant say i mind, after all i am in the phone book and if you really wanted to dig i am sure you could get my meat suit name... its not like i hide anything... but the point is, it is clearly being used as a threat and will cause some concern.

its not fair to call people stupid because they do not know the ins and outs of the nuts and bolts of the internet.... its not like it is needed to surf or play a game.
 
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why do you think i gave mine out on here ;) that said, even if i was wrong, I cant say i mind, after all i am in the phone book and if you really wanted to dig i am sure you could get my meat suit name... its not like i hide anything... but the point is, it is clearly being used as a threat and will cause some concern.

its not fair to call people stupid because they do not know the ins and outs of the nuts and bolts of the internet.... its not like it is needed to surf or play a game.

If the tool exists, and I doubt it does, where's the threat? You acknowledge that it's not personally identifiable, and then say it is by saying you can get a name. Do you even have a clue of which you speak? Do you even know anything about the supposed tool, or are you knee-jerk reacting with no basis? So when you visit google, and they sell your searches, how is that any different? In short you sir are a fool.

Lol so what's the connection between a phone number and an IP address? I'LL WAIT. You can't map one from the other.
 
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If the tool exists, and I doubt it does, where's the threat? You acknowledge that it's not personally identifiable, and then say it is by saying you can get a name. Do you even have a clue of which you speak? Do you even know anything about the supposed tool, or are you knee-jerk reacting with no basis? So when you visit google, and they sell your searches, how is that any different? In short you sir are a fool.

Lol so what's the connection between a phone number and an IP address? I'LL WAIT. You can't map one from the other.

learn to read before calling me a fool!..... it makes you look v silly. Perhaps English is not your 1st language... even then however I would dial back on the personal insults.

I will spell it out for you. I was AGREEING with you!.....

ie I dont care if you have my IP address because I do not think it makes me personally identifiable...... but conceded that even IF it was, I do not care as i am in the phone book and share my name online therefore you COULD get those details anyway regardless of my IP addy!.

BUT....... the important part if you are not already lost.... The simple fact is, this was used as a threat against people....irrespective of whether the threat is real or not, it was used to cause distress.
Just because people who play a video game may or may not know exactly what details make them personally identifiable does not make them an idiot which is what you were saying, Insinuating it does reflects poorly on you.

You may take headache tablets when you feel ill.... it does not make you a fool if you do not know their precise mechanism of how they work....

or an analogy which has happened, you may have a syringe with a totally harmless red liquid in it.... but if you TELL a person it is from a person HIV+ and you will inject it into them..... regardless of if the threat is real or not, you are still committing an offence.
 
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