Good job frontier! Engineer exploit fixed in 24 hours!
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Pretty much this. Most people are not in a position to understand what a deadly combination is a ship full of god roll mods and weapons in the right hands. Lets not speak ofc about a wing of 4 of those ships.
Even though the mats are "easy" to get, it is still maddening. I have 2 G1 rails guns with 40% heat reduction. Couple hundred rolls.
It is a terrible game mechanic.
So even with the exploit, getting god rolls would still really suck instead of really really really really really sucking without it.
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Well, it's something to do
And because of RNG, you might get it in one roll.
Don't know til you try.
Nope. I know a Cheat Ship when I see one.
If you want to live in denial be my guest. The rest of us will continue to report suspected cheaters as we encounter them and let Frontier sort them out. As I said before, if we are wrong about a particular player, no harm no foul. However... If we are right, then there will be one less scum bag in the game.
I'm seeing a lot of guilty consciences in this thread all of a sudden.
I was pretty sure at first that you were just crying cheater because you found someone with strong shields and a good distributor. Now I am certain of it.
If you want to report people because of a gut feeling or simply because they are stronger than you go ahead. That's fine. But what's not fine is the inevitable gossip you gal pals will end up spreading about people.
Dude, you have no idea how this exploit worked. Watch the video. All it lets you do is roll G5 mods at the cost of G1 mods. There are no "cheat ships", just someone who rolled a lot of damn G5s without paying for it properly. A legit player is just as likely to get similar effects with the right roll.
hmm, today i watched a video of a sidewinder getting through harry potters shields and damaging his hull.
You're joking right? That is either a rather serious math fail, or a blatant attempt at smoke screening. A 10% difference on a reinforced prismatic shield and subsequent shield boosters combines to a 20% increase in shields (up to 30k from 24k) which at maxed rolls is an effective difference of ~6000MJ. 6000MJ. That's about 2x the absolute value of the best FDL shields possible in the game.
And that is just one DEFENSIVE stat. If you combine those "10%s" for every offensive and defensive module, the cumulative effect is like fighting 2 enemies vs 1, at a minimum. They are not only taking less damage with bigger pools of health, they are also beating you in the turns, getting under your FOV, flanking, keeping higher ToT, and dealing more damage on top of everything.
In this case, gear makes skill irrelevant because they not only are stronger and tougher, but they can also out fly you just based on their engine stats.
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Harry Potter might be many things, but he's no cheater. SDC isn't 13th.
Any one who has such a thoroughly consistent record of going back on their word this many times can hardly be taken on the "honor code". I'm not saying he's definitely a cheater, but if you do the math, the odds of legitimately arriving at a fleet with those kinds of stats is a on the order of winning the lottery.
Friend him in game, he is always playing. I would not be surprised if all his stuff is legit. If anyone, I could see him not doing the exploit since he sorta has a "target" on his head.
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You have a point. Honor code might not be part of his RP. But I maintain that he's no cheater. He used guile to trick us into trusting him. That's pretty good role playing in my book. Given his background, it was a huge win for his persona. I'm no fan of his, but I have to recognize his ingenuity. The "treason" was planned ahead and was known to some. It was entertaining to say the least. We play the game for fun and he adds to that with side stories.
Really, how dull would ED be without the likes of him injecting entertainment here and there? Getting people's blood going is just a side effect.
Eat more popcorn.
(Also, we know how he got his "god" rolls. Remember the crack train? That information was given to us freely.)
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dunnow why, but i only learned of him during the solome livestreams, and i have also heard the term "god rolls" first time during that stream.
so he is the first one who comes to mind at this topic.
Just get rid of engineers. Problem solved. You won't miss them. We can then all spend our time actually playing the game.
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I certainly would miss them, and I don't have a single "god roll" on any of my ships (best thing I have is a 48.3% FSD, though the G4 dirty drive tuning roll on my Courier is so good I haven't made much effort to get G5 yet).
Some of us like engineers for reasons that have nothing to do with PvP.
That said, all the exploited modules need to go. All of them. I'm not a PvP'er, but I know enough about PvP to look at the numbers and have an understanding of the impact.
Anything short of removing all modules obtained by exploit is simply rewarding players for cheating.
You are mistaken if you think SDC has not taken advantage of the Engineers cheat over the months since its discovery.
So was the Engineers exploit. Curious similarity there
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If you erase the history and persona completely and just look at the mathematically probability of achieving those god rolls legitimately, it's on the order of 1000000 to 1 against. An honest CMDR would literally have a better chance of being struck by lighting. That doesn't mean someone is definitely a cheater. It just just means that the mathematically probability of possessing such a ship by legit means is extraordinarily low.
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Yeh harry did not use the exploit at all.