Frustration Diagnosis

[Old Duck]

I'm frustrated. Many of you are frustrated. However, I personally don't want to become one of those "angry people" we so often see over in the PC forums. Today I want to "let it go", but before I do so, I need to express clearly and concisely why I'm frustrated. I created this thread so others can do the same.

The best analogy I can come up with is the teacher who lacks passion for the subject he / she teaches, especially when we the students are passionate about the subject. As I and many others see it, Frontier lacks passion for the PS4 version of ED. Now I'm sure the team of developers working on the PS4 version is very passionate about their work. The marketing and communications team, I'm sorry to say, is completely unengaged with the PS4 community. They just don't seem to care.

Like a passionate student stuck in a soulless class, my own passion is starting to ebb away. I'll still play the game when it comes out, and I'll enjoy it for what it is, but will I remain passionate about it? I'm beginning to have my doubts. It's my passion that turned into frustration, and to let go of the latter, I may have to let go of the former.

There's so much more I could say (TL;DR), but I'll save that for the conversation that ensues.

 

[IxianD]

While I agree, I have to say I'm more worried than frustrated. If they aren't showing it off, with pride and excitement, then exactly what condition is it in? Will it even be ready for launch? If I hadn't already paid for my copy (because I followed it's development for so long) then I would see no reason to buy it. Terrible business practice and poor fan service.

 

[Rob Himself]

OldDuck,

Your analogy reminded me of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAsTXtowZVQ


While I am very excited for the PS4 release of ED, there certainly is some frustration with the way the game has been marketed, or rather not been marketed. Usually, when an upcoming release has no marketing something is wrong. I truly hope this is not the case with ED. I played on XB1 so I am already somewhat familiar with the game so I already know that I will enjoy it and am so excited for the PS4 version so I can jump back in. But we are two weeks away from release now and the lack of any real marketing or communication from FDev about the PS4 version is concerning.

 

[PBSF Pendragon]

Why do you think they lack passion for it?

 

[willowfan]

Due to the complete lack of any further information that was promised to be provided "closer to launch" when it was first announced.

How much closer to launch do they need to be?

And to add insult to injury, Ed casually announces in the 1.4 Thargoids are coming stream, that XBox OneX, a console not available for several months yet, will get play in 4K.

 

[DeviantWebb]

Us igniting our thrusters it would seem

 

[Old Duck]

Why do you think they lack passion for it?

Fair question, though perhaps a better question is, "How many people think they lack passion for it?" If I'm the only one, then I'm just a madman shouting on the street corner, and "why" really doesn't matter. If I'm not alone, then perhaps this thread will flush out the answer to your original question.

 

[=TK=]

Due to the complete lack of any further information that was promised to be provided "closer to launch" when it was first announced.

How much closer to launch do they need to be?

I'm concerned, but I'm going to give them until Friday before i start getting really worried.

When they announced the PS4 version, they specifically stated that we would get more information in the weeks leading up to launch.

If there's nothing in the next 7 days, then i'll be getting really frustrated

 

[gushaines]

Maybe 2.4 has their time and effort?
I would imagine 2.4 would be a bigger thing for FDev than the PS4 release as 2.4 will cover all platforms.
Look at this as unfortunate timing for PS4 users and good timing for other platforms I guess?

 

[PBSF Pendragon]

but PS4 will not really be news, it will be the same game you can see on PC already and the Thargoid news is huge for those playing. what are you wanting to know RE the PS4 version and I can see if I can get some answers for you

 

[=TK=]

but PS4 will not really be news, it will be the same game you can see on PC already and the Thargoid news is huge for those playing. what are you wanting to know RE the PS4 version and I can see if I can get some answers for you

I'd like to know if they plan to support 4K for PS4 Pro, given that have announced 4K for the Xbox One X.

In their FAQ they stated they will support PS4 Pro, but its the 4k that i'd like some clarification on

 

[stormyuk]

but PS4 will not really be news, it will be the same game you can see on PC already and the Thargoid news is huge for those playing. what are you wanting to know RE the PS4 version and I can see if I can get some answers for you

Maybe not for you, maybe this is it, they don't want to upset you, i.e the existing community. For PS4 owners waiting, this is a big deal, sorry. (we actually shouldn't have to apologise for that to be honest).

The forum is littered with technical questions about PS4 specific info people are crying out for.

 

[Snowymonk]

but PS4 will not really be news, it will be the same game you can see on PC already and the Thargoid news is huge for those playing. what are you wanting to know RE the PS4 version and I can see if I can get some answers for you

This would be a valid argument if all users got the same level of experience but they don't. PC users vs XBox users get a broadly similiar but subtly different experience. Is it down to the way PCs are built in comparison to consoles or the way the net code works?
If it is PC vs Xbox, then the PS4 is more powerful than an Xbox, PSPro is more powerful still.
If is due to handling netcode, then Microsoft probably have a better backbone than Sony.

These are the sort of questions that are frustrating the users on this PS4 forum 12 days out from launch.
The lack of any information is the reason why people are starting to vocalise their frustration.

 

[JStryver]

A number of us are frustrated. We are very passionate about this game coming to the PS4 console. I can understand if they have a plan and things are close to kicking off but the silence is what is taking hold of most of us. The most have have seen since the first of the month concerning the launch, is Playstation added the launch video to their youtube channel. I know FDev read these forums. I even dare say they understand or frustration. It would just be nice for us to have a bone thrown in our direction. Something to hold us over for a bit more.

 

[willowfan]

Maybe 2.4 has their time and effort?
I would imagine 2.4 would be a bigger thing for FDev than the PS4 release as 2.4 will cover all platforms.
Look at this as unfortunate timing for PS4 users and good timing for other platforms I guess?

I would agree that 2.4 is what's getting all their effort, but I would question whether ignoring the questions and concerns of potentially many xx,000 new customers is an appropriate focusing of their priorities, given that any PS4 purchase is new money. 2.4 may be great and worth shouting about, but it won't earn them anything.

 

[Mr Fad]

This would be a valid argument if all users got the same level of experience but they don't. PC users vs XBox users get a broadly similiar but subtly different experience. Is it down to the way PCs are built in comparison to consoles or the way the net code works?
If it is PC vs Xbox, then the PS4 is more powerful than an Xbox, PSPro is more powerful still.
If is due to handling netcode, then Microsoft probably have a better backbone than Sony.

These are the sort of questions that are frustrating the users on this PS4 forum 12 days out from launch.
The lack of any information is the reason why people are starting to vocalise their frustration.

I've been worried for a while but more so this week as this is still abit too late to market the game.
Thankfully the goldwinder isn't really a thing for me so if need be I'll just cancel the pre order and see what peeps say at launch

 

[acidburn2k20]

I'm concerned, but I'm going to give them until Friday before i start getting really worried.

When they announced the PS4 version, they specifically stated that we would get more information in the weeks leading up to launch.

If there's nothing in the next 7 days, then i'll be getting really frustrated

i am not as concerned or frustrated than maybe the vocal majority of the dark side so to speak, me personally i will give them til next tuesday reason being that if there is no news by then we won't get anything until 1-2 days before or after launch. but on a positive note going back to my destiny forum days, at least FDev will answer your questions 6 times out of 10. and Ed Lewis is a far superior community manager to Deej at Bungie.

so while i definitely sympathize with everyones feelings on quality and quantity of news about PS4, i won't be grabbing the pitch fork just yet.

but seriously FDev if you read this give us something soon, you have until 20th June or i will Joan Collins so badly no amount of you secret snickers stash will help!!!

 

[willowfan]

^FD You have been warned!

 

[=TK=]

but on a positive note going back to my destiny forum days, at least FDev will answer your questions 6 times out of 10. and Ed Lewis is a far superior community manager to Deej at Bungie.

so while i definitely sympathize with everyones feelings on quality and quantity of news about PS4, i won't be grabbing the pitch fork just yet.

but seriously FDev if you read this give us something soon, you have until 20th June or i will Joan Collins so badly no amount of you secret snickers stash will help!!!

Agreed, at least we do get answers.

P.S. Joan Collins comment had me spitting coffee. Kudos

 

[Old Duck]

Thankfully the goldwinder isn't really a thing for me so if need be I'll just cancel the pre order and see what peeps say at launch

I didn't know that was an option. Did you already pay for the preorder? Is there a simple "cancel order" button, or do you have to contact Sony?