It's funny you mention an imperial monopoly, considering they have no medium pad ship to compete with the python. The feds at least seemed to try with the dropship, even if they failed miserably.
Medium pad ship gap. Please fix.
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It's funny you mention an imperial monopoly, considering they have no medium pad ship to compete with the python. The feds at least seemed to try with the dropship, even if they failed miserably.
You sir, sound like the person we send to frontier. Really tug at their heartstrings talking about bringing back a classic. That might get it through to them.
Ahh the Boa
I recall lots of fly swatting in and around Riedquat in this beast, could never get one of the turrets to work properly tho. But yes, would like to see it make a comeback as it felt more fun to fly than the Panther Clipper as that thing was literally a flying brick!
Agreed the Clipper should fit in a Medium, as it would be the Empire's only Medium ship.
The Type-7 does feel a bit dwarfed by the Large pads, and if it really is just a shade over, that's a shame, unless it's there specifically to lock it out of Outposts, but if that's something which it does better than the Python...
Between the Asp and the Python - other than the Fer-de-Lance which is really a combat ship - I'd like to see a new ship manufacturer (Argent Inc? Lance & Ferman?) bringing in a multi-role "Copperhead".
Concept: Ultra-light 50T hull, based on new scandium-titanium cellular lattice manufacturing techniques gleaned from analysing the barnacles. (Let's consider making them available for select other ships too, but not large ships. You could armour the hull to lightweight or even one of the armoured ones, but your jump range would severely suffer if you did.)
Fast speed, nippy, good jump range (not quite as good as AspX or DBX but much better than Python), multipurpose. Loadout between AspX 023011 and Python 012123: maybe 210212? - but only has one C3 Large hardpoint (centered) and two C2 mediums. Good shields but really weak hull - you can fight in it but it's risky (probably do not want to fight Thargoids in it!), so you might be better off running, but it does make a reasonable hit-and-run.
The Type-7 does feel a bit dwarfed by the Large pads, and if it really is just a shade over, that's a shame, unless it's there specifically to lock it out of Outposts, but if that's something which it does better than the Python...
Between the Asp and the Python - other than the Fer-de-Lance which is really a combat ship - I'd like to see a new ship manufacturer (Argent Inc? Lance & Ferman?) bringing in a multi-role "Copperhead".
Concept: Ultra-light 50T hull, based on new scandium-titanium cellular lattice manufacturing techniques gleaned from analysing the barnacles. (Let's consider making them available for select other ships too, but not large ships. You could armour the hull to lightweight or even one of the armoured ones, but your jump range would severely suffer if you did.)
Fast speed, nippy, good jump range (not quite as good as AspX or DBX but much better than Python), multipurpose. Loadout between AspX 023011 and Python 012123: maybe 210212? - but only has one C3 Large hardpoint (centered) and two C2 mediums. Good shields but really weak hull - you can fight in it but it's risky (probably do not want to fight Thargoids in it!), so you might be better off running, but it does make a reasonable hit-and-run.
Maybe a slight shrink plus shortening the landing gear.
If pads are the same size all over the galaxy it would make sense to have trade ships that just about fit on a pad right?
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To wimpy to smuggle but he likes combat [???]
This right here is my main issue with the T7 not being a medium pad ship. It would be like churning out cargo ships that are half a foot of draft beyond panamax.
In a universe where every single station uses a standardised system of pad/hangar sizes, dedicated cargo ships should tend towards being boxes just barely small enough in each dimension to fit in a hangar.
Then add the fact the python is like a pancake yet has nearly as much cargo space. Seriously, does it use some advanced time space warping thargoid tech, or is Lakon just wasteful with internal space. Both are equally disturbing to me. And with imperial nutjob gave the clipper wings that would make a 747 feel inadequate. They don't seem to provide any benefit to lift as far as we've seen, so what gives. Because those wings are what make a medium ship use a large pad.
Uggh....
I'll keep saying it because I like saying it .............. we need an Imperial Cobra .... a cross between the iClipper and the Cobra IV (with decent boost speed, of course). Sort of Cobra with pylons.
.............. we need an Imperial Cobra .... a cross between the iClipper and the Cobra IV (with decent boost speed, of course). Sort of Cobra with pylons.
I couldn't agree more.
Clipper would be my go-to medium ship, if only it was medium. [sad]
Great idea! It's a shame the Clipper has less cargo space than a Python and can't hold a fighter hanger like the smaller Gunship or have a 5th gun slot under the nose but can't land on medium pads
Rather than have retractable nacelles, I propose it doesn't need to be as wide so the big guns on the nacelles has better chances of hitting the target. Another option is to reduce the height of its backside which quite often scraps against the mail slot when entering orbital stations.
Great idea! It's a shame the Clipper has less cargo space than a Python and can't hold a fighter hanger like the smaller Gunship or have a 5th gun slot under the nose but can't land on medium pads
That would work too. I like the retractable nacelles idea mainly because I enjoy the existing look of the clipper, and because it had retractable nacelles in the earlier games.
Frankly, the Orca and T7 both fit length and width-wise on medium landing pads, and T6 and Keelback fit on smalls. The issue is their heights, as all go over-limit on that axis. I reckon hangars should be adjusted to allow these ships to fit. It'd be a matter of lowering the floor in each hangar by a single meter.
As for a Medium Imperial ship, I don't think modifying the clipper would work, as there's just too much remodelling to do. I feel like a new imperial ship would better fill this role. Something roughly comparable to an Asp, but with SLF capability (as that's another thing Imp's lack at small scale)
As for a Medium Imperial ship, I don't think modifying the clipper would work, as there's just too much remodelling to do. I feel like a new imperial ship would better fill this role. Something roughly comparable to an Asp, but with SLF capability (as that's another thing Imp's lack at small scale)
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And the Federal Drop Ship...
The problem with changing the pads is the animation. You'd have to make sure each individual part moves that extra meter to make the pad accessible. Then there's the inside of the pad itself on the buy menu, which is probably a different asset. Then times by 3. Lots more work than it seems, when you could just alter two ship models. Unless we get small pad outposts/stations, you don't need to change medium pad ships that should technically fit on small, in terms of gameplay.
And I say change ship sizes too because it's easier I presume than starting from scratch. Maybe a computer tech could verify.