Playing the game.
Youtuber Kornelius Briedis seems to have had it with Fdevs
- Thread starter Threeofseven
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Playing the game.
I don't need youtubers continue to play the game to continue to playing it myself.
I play whatever I like, same with movies, books, or events and I don't follow critics or their opinions.
An like others, I have never brought a bad game.
An I perfectly get that some areas of the game needs improvements, Warzones and war could be massively improve. The mission systems needs some bugs solves and more story attached to them,a bit of flare needs adding, this is hard to do in a procedural system. I would love to see in game jumping of space stations and mega ships in game.
I'm not a fan of just adding more depth on top of existing systems because it largely wouldn't make sense, elite dangerous is a world in every tom and harry can buy a ship they are going to be as easy to drive a car to day. Things need to be plug and play.
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To date - 89. Still playing - 71. On vacation - 2
Since I don't get a commission from Frontier, my desire to peddle their game is somewhat limited. And considering I don't have any other outward marketing - no web site, no dedicated video channel, nothing more than my own circle of friends and friends-of-friends who ask me "Hey, what are you playing these days?"
"Elite: Dangerous"
"What's that?"
"It's a space/flight/sim/type game, with really good graphics, great controls, and a huge play area - namely the entire galaxy. Here's their website, check it out, and if you decide to play, hit me up in game, I'll show you the ropes, and if you decide to stay, I'm forming my own group I'd like to see turned in to a minor faction some day. They have forums too, but you know how forums are, yeah, toxic dung-heaps, like pretty much all game forums."
If I were getting some kind of kickback, then sure, I'd put more effort into it, but I'm not. If I had more time, I'd probably put together a nice, pretty website for the group I'd like to keep growing.
It's not anyone else's job to sell Frontier's product but theirs anyways. Make a good product, people will buy it. Just think, how many commercials have you seen for an Azimut Atlantis 43? Yet these keep on selling too.
Ziggy drips into the contest with one.
Fair point, but I wouldn't be surprised if OA shares many of the same concerns/issues that KB had... And a prime one being, when's the more involved and deeper gameplay arriving? The same issue that's basically driven me away from ED, and a number of my friends...
And I suspect that very question is why we've recently seen the most negativity on the forum I've ever seen. ie: 2.5 years... Two season... But why hasn't the game really progressed? Who decided X & Y was the best development to move the game forwards. And is this the style/level of content we must expect now given a track record now?
Again, an individual youtuber dropping ED is not significant. But given the most likely reason(s) for it, and the fact I'd argue he's probably not alone in his feelings (ie: the growing unrest with direction of the content), then there's the significance surely?
Anyway, let's just hope 2.4-->3 sees FD putting some great new content and gameplay into the game... And KB returns
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Peple come and people go, its the way of life. And yes, one day Elite Dangerous will be no more, it could be the best game ever and that still happens.
Are there Issues? Sure, there always will be. Is focusing on one guy who left helpful in fixing anything? No.
Are there Issues? Sure, there always will be. Is focusing on one guy who left helpful in fixing anything? No.
Nobody is saying it doesn't matter, just no need to make a song and dance about it.. He was one guy that mainly did stat videos, most of that stuff is now irrelevant due to engineers. I have been a KB subscriber since his very first video's, a lot of it was very informative, ED is not going to crumble now that one adult has decided to spend more time elsewhere.
So much drama on this forum.. Plenty of other guy's out that that can fill the void, personally I haven't spent too much time on KB's videos for quite a while now. Plenty of Youtubers to choose from.
Can we stop reporting in for Youtubers, Twitch casters and Twitter posters? You're fooling yourselves if you think enough people care to make it worth the thread. I can assure you that aside from a laugh here and there, no one influences what I do with a game after I've already made the decision on what to do with it. I don't think it's going to influence Frontier either, unless they want to go ahead and provide extensive constructive feedback that makes it worth paying attention to. Moving to the most boring popular game on the market right now doesn't exactly convince me of Kornelius' reasoning either.
So what? He echoed what has been said on the forums for a while now. Should we grieve because of that? No, it's another person that has decided to stop playing. There's nothing wrong with that, I've come and gone many times. I stick around to see if and when something is done. Something is going to be done, so we'll see how that goes. Jim Sterling did a better job selling this game to me and I don't think he's ever touched this game. I make my own decisions and the fact that others allow their wallets to be influenced by a guy on a video doesn't carry much weight with me. He had great videos, he wants to quit or take a break, good for him, next slide.
I, at least, am not waving away the concerns, but even with its problems Elite is still better then any other game out there with what it has to offer. So yeah, I'm of course hoping they fix it, but it is still good enough for me.
That said saying he sold 'more copies then any other player' means......what exactly how do you get those numbers? how do you even know? and please be aware that while many have heard about him, more likely have not, there are simply too many youtubers out there to reliably follow and hear about everyone.
So yeah, Frontier should 'do better' yup, but lets not begin making claims that might not be true?
Watch his video about his recent trip to FDev to see what he thinks on that. But I wouldn't beworied about youtubers putting off people buying the game. One trip to this forum would be enough to put many off.
You're seeing it different to me? It's not about youtubers putting off people buying the game... It's about - in this case - a youtuber leaving the game possibly for reasons that are in many other players minds at the moment, and what this means for the game longer term/ultimately.
ie: This isn't about it affecting the community, but reflecting the community.
And please don't go down the premise that is someone declaring the sky is falling. Of course it's not. It's just another part of quite an interesting position we find ourselves in at the moment. A rather negative one IMHO. Here's hoping 2.4-->3 helps address it.
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Have you seen OA's vid about the trip to FDev? He couldn't give away details but he sounded optimistic on what he'd seen. People take breaks from this game, I have had many, always seem to come back and have blast when I do, get bored play something else and come back again. Can't think of many other games I keep coming back to.
Utubers move on all the time, I don't know which game KB has moved onto, didn't watch his channel much, but he's prob just trying to get mote clicks than ED will provide rather than hating ED.
Honestly, I can't imagine OA being pessimistic in any way shape or form. If he doesn't like something he very politely explains why something doesn't convince him and refocus the attention on the bright side, that's the saltiest OA is capable of being.
So take what you call ant's optimism with a grain of salt. Or two.
He's not pesermistic, and always try and deliver with impartiality. But his tell is when he takes on a disapointed tone of phrase when there is something he doesn't like, beige springs to mind.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but he is just some random guy to me.
But hey if people said he did good then good on him personally I dont know him from adam, no embarrassment felt here.
Or did I miss out on the second coming or something. I did sub to quite a few ED youtubers but whittled it down to about three now, this chap was not one of them.
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I think he is just pointing out the fact that you in no way can or will ever be able to prove your "opinion". He is correct, you cannot prove your opinion. Up until today I have never heard of this person and I have been playing since launch day.
As I said, its my personal preference and I understand why FD might focus on other areas instead to please the wider community. And yes, to some extent, i play ED for a game set in space, and a lot of that is looking at pretty things in space.
Please, don't begrudge me my preferences, especially when i acknowledge its probably not the right way for FD to go.
If only more people around here were willing to accept that the right thing might not be what they want....
Oh yes
His optimism has given me more some hope at least My hope in truth was FD have been working on content for V3 and beyond, and this announcement of core enhancements isn't entirely out of the blue, but utilising some stuff they've already been working on.
I feel 2.4-->3 will give a good indication of where FD plan to take us. If it isn't to deeper waters, I think that's the end of the line most likely for me. ie: If after three years there's no desire (ability?) for them to deepen the mechanics, after years of the community increasingly asking for it, I can't see it happening later on...
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......... still manage to screw things up, its like they've learned nothing in the past two and half years.