Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 10 - The Canonn

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I am a bit worried that with all the ... speculation ... on here at least 90% of CMDRs are going to be disappointed when the story evolves :(

The old hands who've survived this long are, by now, near-impervious to such problems :)

Just knowing there are apparently reams and reams of world-building documents behind these things justifies all the speculation, in my book.

If logical reasoning has gone into the things we 'discover', then hopefully every detail has the potential to be a clue. And if we are, therefore, observant enough and apply equally rigorous logical reasoning, we should be able to get a handle on the nature of those discoveries.

So I would not be surprised if more than one of us over the last three years have nailed one or more currently unknown details - especially in the last couple of weeks'-worth of posts.

The fly in the ointment for us is that we can only control what we do and know. Characters like Hudson, Lavigny-Duval and Mahon are obviously outside our control, as are any other suspected human 'bad guys' who might be antagonising the Thargoids without our knowledge (e.g. potentially manufacturing UAs from Thargoid tech, or even: babies?).

Continuing that train of thought outside the fourth wall: FD obviously have story arcs they want to follow, scenarios they want to place us in, in order to provide a platform to develop the Thargoid presence. So some of that will be forced upon us, and some of it will be down to our own actions.

I also think there'll be plenty of opportunity to continue to use the collective grey matter over the next few months, even years at least - and not just because this small corner of the overall community is particularly vibrant - but because I think the way it engages with the game is exactly the kind of engagement DBOBE, MB et al themselves value very highly - hence the reason why evidently so much work has gone into what we've talking about across these 10 threads, and no doubt will continue to do so for many threads to come.

What bothers me slightly, however, is that when we (often singular commanders coming in, or returning, and sharing - adding to the whole) do figure something out, or discover something - it's easy to believe we're really smart. And while in many cases that's obviously true (me excluded!) - I have a sneaking suspicion that the aforementioned DBOBE, MB et al might just be a bit smarter! Still, that hopefully means we're going to be busy for a long time!
 
Reading and listening carefully to their words, (David Braben's, Sandro Sammarco's ... Micheal Brookes seems a little bit silent at the moment, isn't he? Are you there sir?) it seems to me that they are planning things for each kind of ED gameplay: I mean, there'll be plenty of pew pew for the trigger happy CMDRs (until Thargoids will be nerfed two weeks from launch, after the usual weening "cause they are too OP, and they destroyed my one billion Cutter to bits"... I really hope not, but I know my chickens...), there'll be things to find for explorers and scientists, that'll bring mysteries to solve for us science-addicted players, there'll be some politics for those who enjoy the (always perfectible) Background Simulation.
I've never jumped on the "complainers' bandwagon", and I'll never do, I like the game, I enjoy it for what it is: a unique sandbox EXPERIENCE, I play in my spare time, not every day, from game to game, I always come back to ED.

So let's hope for a bright future, and let's always see the half filled glass, that's how I like to see things in my life.
And let's not forget the "Thargoid Bible/Tome" they keep in their Caveau: I don't know what I'd do to give a peek at it ;)

Fly safe CMDRs!
 
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This might be just normal, but since I've not heard it before, I'm asking here.

Listen to the sound of the planet in question in the video below - this is a moon in the recently discovered barnacle system PS IX-S B4-4. I usually listen to planets in system map - they got different sounds. If you zoom in on a planet, you hear their sound louder. You cannot hear the sound if your in surface view.

The sound of this planet immediately caught my ear. Never heard it before. Also the other, similar, planets in the system don't have the same sound and several of them have identical sounds. What I also didn't know, but found out through testing, is that the sounds of planets in the system view is tied to music - so if you turn music off there's no sound.

OK - that was a lengthy explanation. My question is; have any of you heard this? I have a feeling this could just be normal, but best to check with a larger crowd first.

Video:

[video=youtube;sfQZa4348S0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfQZa4348S0[/video]
 
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About the "Thargoids return" message. I actually took it as an order rather than a statement.

Thargoids, RETURN! kind of thing.

Really? I just took it as a non-printing character.

Thargoids. Return. Exclamation mark. Question mark. Exclamation mark.

In. Space. Space. Space. No-one. Space. Can. Space. Hear. Space. You. Space. Scream. Dot. Dot. Dot.
 
I like to wonder about Halseys link and if what /who she say was Thargoid in origin. Where was Halsey found? Does it correspond to known alien sites?
 
This might be just normal, but since I've not heard it before, I'm asking here.

Listen to the sound of the planet in question in the video below - this is a moon in the recently discovered barnacle system PS IX-S B4-4. I usually listen to planets in system map - they got different sounds. If you zoom in on a planet, you hear their sound louder. You cannot hear the sound if your in surface view.

The sound of this planet immediately caught my ear. Never heard it before. Also the other, similar, planets in the system don't have the same sound and several of them have identical sounds. What I also didn't know, but found out through testing, is that the sounds of planets in the system view is tied to music - so if you turn music off there's no sound.

OK - that was a lengthy explanation. My question is; have any of you heard this? I have a feeling this could just be normal, but best to check with a larger crowd first.

Video:


Yes, the "music" you hear in the system map is definitely important. It is one of the way you can quickly ID Water-worlds, Earth-likes and other high-value planets while exploring without having to scan a planet.

I did notice the other night that the 1st Barnacle planet in PS IX-S B4-4 (B1?) seemed to have a different sound in the system map than was normal for its type.. why exactly that is.. or if it is intentional.. I don't know yet..
 
I like to wonder about Halseys link and if what /who she say was Thargoid in origin. Where was Halsey found? Does it correspond to known alien sites?

This Halsey?

[video=youtube;bjyGkvNUtRU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjyGkvNUtRU&list=PL--wBSa9-XimwMDVyqvZrDt_-s9klwTcQ&index=9[/video]


Its got blue hair get it get it.

O wait she might be from the Empire. My bad.
 
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Given Braben's interview comments about alien life motivation I'd go a step further. We attribute morality to them based on our sense of morality. It's quite plausible for us to mistake an act of benevolence as malevolent or vice versa.

A hive mind which thinks as one may not even consider the possibility that humans don't behave likewise. For example commanders who refrain from attacking may not be considered peaceful, they may be viewed as harmless drones. Individual losses on their part may not generate a sense of outrage at humans any more than we're outraged at the sun when we peel dead skin off a sunburn (well some of us might be).

Can't rep you at the moment so have some virtual +rep.

If anything I'd say we need to go further down this route and as much as we can, completely disregard applying any human concepts to how we interpret and interact with the Thargoids or any other aliens (with the obvious 4th wall proviso that whatever the nature of the alienness is, it's been created by humans and is therefore going to be unavoidably constrained in terms of how truly alien it can be).
 
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The old hands who've survived this long are, by now, near-impervious to such problems :)

Just knowing there are apparently reams and reams of world-building documents behind these things justifies all the speculation, in my book.

If logical reasoning has gone into the things we 'discover', then hopefully every detail has the potential to be a clue. And if we are, therefore, observant enough and apply equally rigorous logical reasoning, we should be able to get a handle on the nature of those discoveries.

So I would not be surprised if more than one of us over the last three years have nailed one or more currently unknown details - especially in the last couple of weeks'-worth of posts.

The fly in the ointment for us is that we can only control what we do and know. Characters like Hudson, Lavigny-Duval and Mahon are obviously outside our control, as are any other suspected human 'bad guys' who might be antagonising the Thargoids without our knowledge (e.g. potentially manufacturing UAs from Thargoid tech, or even: babies?).

Continuing that train of thought outside the fourth wall: FD obviously have story arcs they want to follow, scenarios they want to place us in, in order to provide a platform to develop the Thargoid presence. So some of that will be forced upon us, and some of it will be down to our own actions.

I also think there'll be plenty of opportunity to continue to use the collective grey matter over the next few months, even years at least - and not just because this small corner of the overall community is particularly vibrant - but because I think the way it engages with the game is exactly the kind of engagement DBOBE, MB et al themselves value very highly - hence the reason why evidently so much work has gone into what we've talking about across these 10 threads, and no doubt will continue to do so for many threads to come.

What bothers me slightly, however, is that when we (often singular commanders coming in, or returning, and sharing - adding to the whole) do figure something out, or discover something - it's easy to believe we're really smart. And while in many cases that's obviously true (me excluded!) - I have a sneaking suspicion that the aforementioned DBOBE, MB et al might just be a bit smarter! Still, that hopefully means we're going to be busy for a long time!

I'm of a similar mind, I just wish we had a richer set of in-game interaction mechanisms. We have a lot of human activity by
Wreaken/Sirius supporting some major development effort in a locked sector that we cant probe, infiltrate, task signals intercept gathering against....When we find something then our ability to respond/probe/act is limited to UA bombing and firing hardkill weapons at things. Still don't understand what the value of the ship data scanner might be.

 
This might be just normal, but since I've not heard it before, I'm asking here.

Listen to the sound of the planet in question in the video below - this is a moon in the recently discovered barnacle system PS IX-S B4-4. I usually listen to planets in system map - they got different sounds. If you zoom in on a planet, you hear their sound louder. You cannot hear the sound if your in surface view.

The sound of this planet immediately caught my ear. Never heard it before. Also the other, similar, planets in the system don't have the same sound and several of them have identical sounds. What I also didn't know, but found out through testing, is that the sounds of planets in the system view is tied to music - so if you turn music off there's no sound.

OK - that was a lengthy explanation. My question is; have any of you heard this? I have a feeling this could just be normal, but best to check with a larger crowd first.

Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfQZa4348S0

There are a few threads/YouTube vids about planet sounds. You might want to check out https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlvnrFgmCKQ
 
There are a few threads/YouTube vids about planet sounds. You might want to check out https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlvnrFgmCKQ

Found the thread. The one I found is the same as rocky world type 2. It has silicate vapour geysers and abot the same amount of metal and rocks as the one in the vide on the thread too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALXE9rwnNy4.

There were other planets in PS IX-S B4-4 with high metal content and with silicate vapour geysers. Over 30 % metal. So I guess volcanism has nothing to say.
 
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Part 1. just observation...- -. -.- -. --- .-- -. UNKNOWN...- . ... ... . .-.. ... VESSELS-.. . - . -.-. - . -.. .-.-.- DETECTED.... . .-. ...- . .-. .--. ..- .-. --. . SERVERPURGE..-. .- .. .-.. . -.. .-.-.- FAILED. ( Unknown ship scans not wiped, left for us to scan )... .... .. .--. SHIP.- ... ... . - ... ASSETS.-.. .. --.- ..- .. -.. .- - . -.. .-.-.- LIQUIDATED.( Crew killed ).--. .- -.-- .-.. --- .- -.. PAYLOAD-.. . ... - .-. --- -.-- . -.. .-.-.- DESTROYED.( unknown items carried destroyed , unknown link ? , maybe what attracted the attack in first place )... .... .. .--. SHIP... - .- - ..- ... STATUS.-.. --- ... - .-.-.- LOST. ( well obvious )Part 2. Thargoids , barnacles, both seem related. UA , UP , dont seem directly related.

if you could not use that tiny font and color that would be great, also don't forget that the imperials are involved as well. The information was in their data banks, Salome found it. #neverforget

We already know where the nest in the video is, it's permit locked. And honestly as far as we know there are no nests in the game right now, gotta wait at least until the next update.

Theorized, it is not known or fact, it is theorized to be there. Until you can actually produce results then it remains a theory.
 
Barnacle News - Quick update.


New Barnacle system located in Pleiades. 9th system now in Pleiades with Barnacles.
More interestingly , this also appears to be All cycle ripe too, and presumably Thargoid Event active.

Not proven, yet... Nobody has visited this systems barnacle yet. Only announcing and posting locations now.

If you are in need of MA, can i ask you to harvest from this systems barnacles. Report any Thargoid encounters, with evidence please.
Pleiades Sector LN-S B4-3 C 2-29.8096-4.2618
Pleiades Sector LN-S B4-3 C 215.2088-45.2712
Pleiades Sector LN-S B4-3 C 3-21.005-88.7599
C3 has 4 MA double barnacle, C2 both have 2 MA single barnacles

If curious to search for more, C2 & C3 confirmed barnacle planets, B3 & B4 viable temperature ranges for barnacles, none confirmed yet.
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EDIT : Latest FIND.. better double barnacle.. 5 MA yes 5.
Pleiades Sector LN-S B4-3 C 3-13.1651-54.358


URGENT>>> no time to finish rounding up that post,, and CONFIRMED<< THARGOID ACTIVE SITE>>. just got a visit as Cmdr Iureka entered his SRV , minutes after we discovered this site..

VIDEO UPLOADING,, ready soon
 
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Most CMDRs havnt gotten the encounter at all since the Ed live stream is it gone now? if so there isnt anyway to test this, however good job putting it here :)
 
Barnacle News - Quick update.


New Barnacle system located in Pleiades. 9th system now in Pleiades with Barnacles.
More interestingly , this also appears to be All cycle ripe too, and presumably Thargoid Event active.

Not proven, yet... Nobody has visited this systems barnacle yet. Only announcing and posting locations now.

If you are in need of MA, can i ask you to harvest from this systems barnacles. Report any Thargoid encounters, with evidence please.
Pleiades Sector LN-S B4-3 C 2-29.8096-4.2618
Pleiades Sector LN-S B4-3 C 215.2088-45.2712
Pleiades Sector LN-S B4-3 C 3-21.005-88.7599
C3 has 4 MA double barnacle, C2 both have 2 MA single barnacles

If curious to search for more, C2 & C3 confirmed barnacle planets, B3 & B4 viable temperature ranges for barnacles, none confirmed yet.
http://i.imgur.com/49CD05Fl.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/gg5FUOkl.png


EDIT : Latest FIND.. better double barnacle.. 5 MA yes 5.
Pleiades Sector LN-S B4-3 C 3-13.1651-54.358


URGENT>>> no time to finish rounding up that post,, and CONFIRMED<< THARGOID ACTIVE SITE>>. just got a visit as Cmdr Iureka entered his SRV , minutes after discovering this site..

VIDEO UPLOADING,, ready soon

Egads.. where did you buy your Barnacle Detector Kit?!?! I need one!
 
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