Hmmm there's an idea... [yesnod]
FDev, you just upset a *lot* of people.
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Hmmm there's an idea... [yesnod]
I reckon there's a lot of forum posters earning green pips tonight. And guess what.... its without cheating!
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I would tend to agree.
I just went through my entire heavily engineered fleet and I have not had any modules changed or removed. I have earned all of my Engineer upgrades through many, many hours of honest grinding for mats and re-rolls. Nearly all of my FSD Drives have an upgraded Optimized Mass spec. over the +50% max indicated on the Engineer Upgrade UI thanks to very lucky secondary effects.
Several of my weapons systems are also over spec. but were all obtained through legit secondary effects that pushed them over the posted limits.
Contrary to what I am reading from some in this thread, I don't think FDEV is using a Sledgehammer at all here. I think they have more info on how the removed upgrades were achieved than they are being given credit for.
I also have checked in with a few of my friends in the game with some very rare high rolled upgrades, and they too have not seen any changes made to their upgraded modules. I think truly LEGIT players have nothing to worry about here.
Anyone out there who has had their LEGIT upgrades nerfed or removed by Frontier need only submit a support ticket disputing the action. I would venture to say that if the upgrades are indeed legit, and you have been unfairly targeted, I would expect that Frontier will restore your legitimately obtained upgrades.
I'm VERY pleased to see that Frontier is finally addressing this long overdue housecleaning. And we all know that anyone who obtained their upgraded ships through cheating are dishonest players, so why then should we believe a word they post here or anywhere on these forums? I surely don't and never will. Once a cheater, always a cheater is my attitude.
Kind of comes down to the ol' "Me thinks thou protests too much" concept.
I'm just glad that the Exploited God-Rolled Ships are being systematically deleted from the game. Too bad the same can not be said for the morally bankrupt individuals who owned those ships.
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I second this.
Cheating in any form deserve punishment. Let the cheater farm countless time to get the materials needed to roll decent stats on module as the great majority does. There is no excuse nor way to be soft. If anything, I would have banned those guys from the game, expecially with the level of vitriol they managed to add to this community. I better shut up or I'll get banned.
From what I'm gathering so far, the manner in which you've conducted your exploit punishment have been nothing less than extremely clumsy. Instead of only removing the rolls which were exploited, you've also elected to remove anything that might have been a legitimate roll. What you're literally telling us is "We know you cheated, but since we can't tell which module you cheated to upgrade, we're taking this sledgehammer to everything we think might have been exploited." I'm seeing a lot of people having lost their legitimately upgraded modules... and some performed the exploit once out of curiosity.
You're losing players pulling this stuff, guys. It's bad enough you guys took said sledgehammer to anything that looked suspicious, but according to reddit posts some people still have their exploited modules.
I'm really glad I didn't let my curiosity get the better of me... I probably would have had my FAS wiped from existence if I had from ONE module.
[EDIT] Since some people would rather not actually read the thread and see that I attempted to clarify, I might as well add this in. I jumped the gun and posted this believing that any roll viewed as "suspect" would be targeted. I didn't spend a month dedicated to engineering my FAS in all aspects to have it dedicated over a false positive, you know. But obviously as more information has come out it seems FDev have a way of actually tracking these things, so... I tried admitting to the mistake, but nobody's actually READING the thread.
Y'all really like to resort to immediate derision and vitriol to any opinion you don't like though, do you? What a nice bunch you are.
Oh and about the players we are loosing, let's just say that the game environment has been cleaned. For the better
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Maybe they shouldn't be allowed to rage-leave the game...
at least not without using the "uninstall and leave" menu?
It would work like this: all now-mod-stripped ships are ejected from the hosting station and left AFK there, then uninstall completes after 15 days cooldown period.
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Happy Engineers Day. People who think they need to cheat in order to get good... FD is watching and listening. Lol.
I can't help but think this thread's title is a tad inaccurate...
Seems like a pretty light punishment. Cheaters are lucky they aren't banned. Who's dumb enough to get upset by such a mild punishment?
^ THIS ^ Is what I was demanding they do because I still feel that anything less isn't harsh enough for what their dishonesty brought down on their hundreds of victims.
I play in Solo and Private Groups, so I don't really have a horse in this race, but still... I am satisfied that they are at least removing the cancer these cheaters brought into the game. It will still take a very long time before a lot of their victims ever venture back into OPEN though, so a net loss for OPEN as a result which will directly impact these same players if they choose to continue to play the game.
Along those same lines... The fact that many of these same cheaters are the loudest voices when it comes to whining about Combat Loggers, Solo and Private Groups is also ironic and hilarious at the same time, because their own dishonest actions have given many more players a legit excuse to pull the plug the second they suspect they are dealing with a cheater in a "Cheat Ship", or to leave OPEN altogether.
In my opinion...This is the true "Divine Justice" to have emerged from this debacle. We can hope that this will prove too much for them and they will finally leave this game and find another community to stink up instead.
They may as well leave now. Their reputations as well as those of the player groups who condoned these cheats are considered worse than garbage now and will likely never recover.
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"A lot" is a relative term, <100 is still a lot. Doesn't mean the same as "The majority" does it?
"A lot" is a relative term, <100 is still a lot. Doesn't mean the same as "The majority" does it?
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Frontier did upset a lot of people.
And none of those people are worth caring about.
I think everyone in this thread deserves an absolutely free, adorable, little baby lulzbucket.
Pet it and fill it with your lulz until it squees in joy.
If you have shrunken modules, it'll fill up really quickly.
Pet it and fill it with your lulz until it squees in joy.
If you have shrunken modules, it'll fill up really quickly.
I agree with frontier action, ppl who did It shouldve known the risksFrom what ring so far, the manner in which you've conducted your exploit punishment have been nothing less than extremely clumsy. Instead of only removing the rolls which were exploited, you've also elected to remove anything that might have been a legitimate roll. What you're literally telling us is "We know you cheated, but since we can't tell which module you cheated to upgrade, we're taking this sledgehammer to everything we think might have been exploited." I'm seeing a lot of people having lost their legitimately upgraded modules... and some performed the exploit once out of curiosity.
You're losing players pulling this stuff, guys. It's bad enough you guys took said sledgehammer to anything that looked suspicious, but according to reddit posts some people still have their exploited modules.
I'm really glad I didn't let my curiosity get the better of me... I probably would have had my FAS wiped from existence if I had from ONE module.
[EDIT] Since some people would rather not actually read the thread and see that I attempted to clarify, I might as well add this in. I jumped the gun and posted this believing that any roll viewed as "suspect" would be targeted. I didn't spend a month dedicated to engineering my FAS in all aspects to have it dedicated over a false positive, you know. But obviously as more information has come out it seems FDev have a way of actually tracking these things, so... I tried admitting to the mistake, but nobody's actually READING the thread.
Y'all really like to resort to immediate derision and vitriol to any opinion you don't like though, do you? What a nice bunch you are.
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Frontier has received more respect and forum PR for this than all of E3 lol
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