FD & PS4 players, you should be aware that attempts are being made to sabotage launch.

I pretty much guarantee that FDEV will make sure the starter systems are ok before launch. They have the power to reset any station during the daily update. If anyone UA bombs LHS3447 into lockdown it won't last. Have faith CMDR, the gods are on our side :)
FDev got a lot of complaints last time they reset BGS actions by players:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-07-15-elite-dangerous-players-accuse-frontier-of-god-modding
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ad-6/page304?p=4215687&viewfull=1#post4215687

So I have doubts they'd directly adjust locked down stations.
 
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Isn't the name of the game Elite DANGEROUS, duh.
I don't like the idea of a phychotic being able to destroy my ship for no apparent reason. And a couple of other minor issues that I've been told are in the game. It's a dangerous place, and if ya don't like it too bad.

Though FDev designed, developed and marketed the game. I bought it. It's mine, Being able to modify it with fun third party additions to the FDev's original designed product on a pc is an exploit pc'ers have consoles don't. Hence one reason, some individuals invest in a gaming pc rather than a console. If a pc'er can augment the game to their liking with no recourse from FDev, why can't consoles, exploiting an exploit is utilizing an exploit, If it's considered cheating by FDev on console why isn't it on pc's.

I mean if it's good for the gander, then certainly it should be good to the goods, right. The decision to utilize any exploit available should be up to the buyer not the designer. You can say it's cheating, but I can say it's not. Were both entitled to our opinion and our decision to utilize an exploit or not. Once a customer pays for it, installs it, subscribes to and pays a fee to play it. It belongs to them. Should FDev have a problem on the way anyone deceides to play the game such as griefing, modding the screen colors, adding voice commands, combat logging to bad etc etc etc. to bad, or fix it. Don't remedy it by picking and choosing allowing a pc to add or augment their version of the game is no different than a console utilizing an exploit that's in the actual game.

So, either they should stay out of it altogeather or go all in. And stop being selective or bias because the original game eons ago was designed for pc. That's discrimination at its best.

They could remedy it by allowing any and all player to completly block a player from their system just like forums do. If one doesn't like griefers, than one could just block them and never have to deal with them again. It would be their choice not FDev's. They are not are parrents, and don't have the right to alter it for one child and not all the children.

On the other hand, to think one can blackmail a corporation with such tactics is assine and childish.

FDev it's my game once I pay for it, leave me alone to play it the way you designed, flaws and all. Or fix it so everyone is effected not just console players!
 
The two starter systems should be a special case. First impressions count, and if your first impression is one of confusion that nothing in the station menu works...

Remember it's complete newbs we're (mostly) talking about here who have no clue about system states, UA bombing etc.
 
Isn't the name of the game Elite DANGEROUS, duh.
I don't like the idea of a phychotic being able to destroy my ship for no apparent reason. And a couple of other minor issues that I've been told are in the game. It's a dangerous place, and if ya don't like it too bad.
The word "Dangerous" in the game's name refers to your Pilot's Federation rank, and not a statement of risk.

This is an oft proposed discussion point (often by PvPers), but David Braben directly refuted this: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange...obe_fdev_ceo/d96sdor/?st=iuphpvjj&sh=2af8074a


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Yeah but whats the point of publicity that makes them look like morons and actually puts more money in the hands of developers?

The point, from their perspective, is to "farm salt".

Secondary, a number of them want EVE Online levels of player control over the state of the game (and are indeed ex-EVE players), and exposing things in ED which are not designed around PvP/griefing, and can be abused for such.
For example the way ramming and pad-blocking reacts poorly when deliberately abused against innocent CMDRs. The mechanics are meant more to keep you moving, and not as true crime/punishment mechanics from when one player deliberately blocks a player in the slot say.

Like Nero, they'd rather see the game destroyed, than not have things their way.
 
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Isn't the name of the game Elite DANGEROUS, duh.
I don't like the idea of a phychotic being able to destroy my ship for no apparent reason. And a couple of other minor issues that I've been told are in the game. It's a dangerous place, and if ya don't like it too bad.

Though FDev designed, developed and marketed the game. I bought it. It's mine, Being able to modify it with fun third party additions to the FDev's original designed product on a pc is an exploit pc'ers have consoles don't. Hence one reason, some individuals invest in a gaming pc rather than a console. If a pc'er can augment the game to their liking with no recourse from FDev, why can't consoles, exploiting an exploit is utilizing an exploit, If it's considered cheating by FDev on console why isn't it on pc's.

I mean if it's good for the gander, then certainly it should be good to the goods, right. The decision to utilize any exploit available should be up to the buyer not the designer. You can say it's cheating, but I can say it's not. Were both entitled to our opinion and our decision to utilize an exploit or not. Once a customer pays for it, installs it, subscribes to and pays a fee to play it. It belongs to them. Should FDev have a problem on the way anyone deceides to play the game such as griefing, modding the screen colors, adding voice commands, combat logging to bad etc etc etc. to bad, or fix it. Don't remedy it by picking and choosing allowing a pc to add or augment their version of the game is no different than a console utilizing an exploit that's in the actual game.

So, either they should stay out of it altogeather or go all in. And stop being selective or bias because the original game eons ago was designed for pc. That's discrimination at its best.

They could remedy it by allowing any and all player to completly block a player from their system just like forums do. If one doesn't like griefers, than one could just block them and never have to deal with them again. It would be their choice not FDev's. They are not are parrents, and don't have the right to alter it for one child and not all the children.

On the other hand, to think one can blackmail a corporation with such tactics is assine and childish.

FDev it's my game once I pay for it, leave me alone to play it the way you designed, flaws and all. Or fix it so everyone is effected not just console players!
Billl, anyone who uses the "It's called Elite DANGEROUS" argument immediately loses said argument!
 
Isn't the name of the game Elite DANGEROUS, duh.
I don't like the idea of a phychotic being able to destroy my ship for no apparent reason. And a couple of other minor issues that I've been told are in the game. It's a dangerous place, and if ya don't like it too bad.

Though FDev designed, developed and marketed the game. I bought it. It's mine, Being able to modify it with fun third party additions to the FDev's original designed product on a pc is an exploit pc'ers have consoles don't. Hence one reason, some individuals invest in a gaming pc rather than a console. If a pc'er can augment the game to their liking with no recourse from FDev, why can't consoles, exploiting an exploit is utilizing an exploit, If it's considered cheating by FDev on console why isn't it on pc's.

I mean if it's good for the gander, then certainly it should be good to the goods, right. The decision to utilize any exploit available should be up to the buyer not the designer. You can say it's cheating, but I can say it's not. Were both entitled to our opinion and our decision to utilize an exploit or not. Once a customer pays for it, installs it, subscribes to and pays a fee to play it. It belongs to them. Should FDev have a problem on the way anyone deceides to play the game such as griefing, modding the screen colors, adding voice commands, combat logging to bad etc etc etc. to bad, or fix it. Don't remedy it by picking and choosing allowing a pc to add or augment their version of the game is no different than a console utilizing an exploit that's in the actual game.

So, either they should stay out of it altogeather or go all in. And stop being selective or bias because the original game eons ago was designed for pc. That's discrimination at its best.

They could remedy it by allowing any and all player to completly block a player from their system just like forums do. If one doesn't like griefers, than one could just block them and never have to deal with them again. It would be their choice not FDev's. They are not are parrents, and don't have the right to alter it for one child and not all the children.

On the other hand, to think one can blackmail a corporation with such tactics is assine and childish.

FDev it's my game once I pay for it, leave me alone to play it the way you designed, flaws and all. Or fix it so everyone is effected not just console players!



That isn't true. When you buy it all you own is a license to play their game. And as the owners and curators of that product they have the right to do whatever they want. If they feel a minority is damaging an experience for the majority and want to 'fix' it then they are well within their rights to take whatever action they feel is necessary.

People don't have to like it, and can then complain, kick-off, pour salt or whatever else they choose, but they absolutely have no rights to demand anything.

All that said, I actually like the fact that players can have tangible effects over the galaxy. It's one of the elements that I think draws people into the game and should be held pretty sacred. However when I put my business head on FDev have a responsibility to keep the game ticking over for their customers (and stakeholders) so if they have to take small measures to maintain a playable balance then so be it.

I'll be fine though, the griefers will be too busy laughing at my abysmal flying to be able to shoot me. ;)
 
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I'm not 100% on this but I think any MMO game then the developer owns our characters. Like if we break the TOS then we can get banned. Once we click accept we're bound to it. WoW for example you're pretty much renting your character. Nothing saying Frontier has to allow us access to their server or keep our character data on their server.
 
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Just a couple of things to add . . .

Firstly, FDev have the ability to place commanders in 'jail', basically they can force you into your own private instance so you can no longer interact. They've never given out numbers of how many they've done this to, or for how long, but it is a known punishment method FDev have.

Secondly, on UA bombing; to do this you need a black market, and for those starting in LHS 3447 this won't work thanks to Power Play. Why? Well, LHS 3447 is controlled by Hudson, and one of his 'benefits' is that he shuts down all black markets in systems he controls . . . bye bye UA bombing :) (Asellus Primus is controlled by Mahon, so UA bombing is still possible there)
 
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'nuff said really
 
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Just a couple of things to add . . .

Firstly, FDev have the ability to place commanders in 'jail', basically they can force you into your own private instance so you can no longer interact. They've never given out numbers of how many they've done this to, or for how long, but it is a known punishment method FDev have.

Secondly, on UA bombing; to do this you need a black market, and for those starting in LHS 3447 this won't work thanks to Power Play. Why? Well, LHS 3447 is controlled by Hudson, and one of his 'benefits' is that he shuts down all black markets in systems he controls . . . bye bye UA bombing :) (Asellus Primus is controlled by Mahon, so UA bombing is still possible there)

UA bombing?
 
So they want to shut down the starter station and the surrounding it just to be a holes? Can we confirm their ages?


Jintosh, praise the Alliance
 
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